What A Way To Start!

Klaatulou · 05-07-2002, 08:25 PM

I just started a brand new fictional league that is based upon real players from 1970. I had a 21 year old kid named Pete Broberg who made the starting rotation. He threw one pitch in his major league debut, the batter grounded out, and poor Pete threw out a disc in his back. He is lost for at least two months. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for his career? I love this game! Just thought I'd share.

origamirazor · 05-07-2002, 11:15 PM

I once had a fictional 2b that I drafted and brought up through the minors. I was very exited because at 26 his ratings were all 7's except a 9 for homers. He also had an A for stealing and an A for speed to go with a .995 fielding percentage and a B range.

In the first inning of his first career game, he dove for a ball and suffered a career ending injury! He never even got an at bat! Needless to say I took a break from ootp for a couple of days.

dbotiger · 05-08-2002, 05:01 AM

Here's a nice first round pick story:

Drafted a catcher number 1 rated Excellent across the board. Listed #1 in top 100 prospects...(I feel good!)

By July he is already at AA. (I can taste the Hall of Fame, this guy is next year's Rookie of the Year...)

By August, he is out for season and he ratings are now Fair across the board. (Now I am cursing the G-ds of injury....)

By Beginning of Next Season I click on the player and drag to RELEASE. (I have enough bad catchers already...)

Vyper · 05-08-2002, 03:10 PM

On the other side of the coin, in my 1886 or 1887 season, Flip Lafferty threw a no-hitter in his first major league start. Obviously a rare occurance, has that ever happened "in real life"?

Modern Relic · 05-08-2002, 04:00 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Vyper:
On the other side of the coin, in my 1886 or 1887 season, Flip Lafferty threw a no-hitter in his first major league start. Obviously a rare occurance, has that ever happened "in real life"?<hr /></blockquote>Didn't Wilson Alvarez throw a no-no in one of his first starts for the White Sox? Or am I thinking of Alex Fernandez? Or am I nuts?

HolyCow98 · 05-08-2002, 04:01 PM

In my current season,2006, I had a 24 year old right handed starter pitch a complete game 1-hitter. He struck out 7 and walked 2 giving up a run.

Funny thing was it was just an emergency start as I had a bad streak with injuries. I lost 2 starting pitchers to short term injuries and my no 1 setup man to a 2 month injury which forced me to use my normally 4th starter in an extra inning game.

If it wasn't for some bad breaks he would not have had an oppurtunity to pitch this year. I had planned to review his progress after spring training next season and though he might have a shot at the 5th starter spot, if not, I was going to try and trade him. You just never know whats going to happen in baseball or OOTP.

asamford · 05-08-2002, 04:37 PM

Wilson Alvarez pitched a no hitter in his 1st start ever for the White Sox in 1991, although it was his 2nd game in the majors. In 1989, he pitched a game for the Rangers and gave up 3 or 4 runs without retiring anybody. I think he was traded to the Sox the next day or something like that...

JML · 05-08-2002, 05:08 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by asamford:
Wilson Alvarez pitched a no hitter in his 1st start ever for the White Sox in 1991, although it was his 2nd game in the majors. In 1989, he pitched a game for the Rangers and gave up 3 or 4 runs without retiring anybody. I think he was traded to the Sox the next day or something like that...<hr /></blockquote>Does this mean Tony isn't nuts? How is that possible?

Modern Relic · 05-08-2002, 05:10 PM

LAH · 05-08-2002, 05:11 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dbotiger:
Here's a nice first round pick story:

Drafted a catcher number 1 rated Excellent across the board. Listed #1 in top 100 prospects...(I feel good!)

By July he is already at AA. (I can taste the Hall of Fame, this guy is next year's Rookie of the Year...)

By August, he is out for season and he ratings are now Fair across the board. (Now I am cursing the G-ds of injury....)

By Beginning of Next Season I click on the player and drag to RELEASE. (I have enough bad catchers already...)<hr /></blockquote>Thats depressing.

mellenburg · 05-10-2002, 05:57 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by origamirazor:
I once had a fictional 2b that I drafted and brought up through the minors. I was very exited because at 26 his ratings were all 7's except a 9 for homers. He also had an A for stealing and an A for speed to go with a .995 fielding percentage and a B range.

In the first inning of his first career game, he dove for a ball and suffered a career ending injury! He never even got an at bat! Needless to say I took a break from ootp for a couple of days.<hr /></blockquote>I think this guy was hitchiking on the side of the road while I was on my way back from Boston. He didn't become a doctor did he?

[ 05-10-2002, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: mellenburg ]

paulytwotimes · 05-10-2002, 09:00 AM

regarding Alvarez, he was a prized Texas prospect at the time, and the White Sox were in the toilet. Larry Himes (Sox GM) engineered a deal with the Rangers in 1989, sending Harold Baines and Fred Manrique to Texas for Wilson Alvarez, Scotty Flethcer and a guy named Sammy Sosa. And, as we all know, Sosa was later traded to the Cubs for George Bell and cash. I still contend that the deal wasn't that bad for my Sox. Sure, in the long run it was, but they needed another stick in the middle of the order for a pennant run, and Sosa couldn't hit a beach ball at the time.

fluharty · 05-10-2002, 09:27 AM

I drafted an 21 year old SP named Jason Wolfe in the 1st round a few years back. He had talents/ratings of AAB/117 and a 10 velocity. In his second minor league season, while at AA, he suffered a season ending injury, after which his talent dropped to FAB, though his actual ratings did not change. I kept him around. He fought his way back from the injury over the the next couple of years and finaly made it to AAA this year at age 24, and had AAB talents again. By mid-season he was rated 6 6 9 10. In august, he suffered a season ending injury, which dropped him to FAB 4 6 9 10. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

05-08-2002, 04:00 PM	#5
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vyper: <strong>On the other side of the coin, in my 1886 or 1887 season, Flip Lafferty threw a no-hitter in his first major league start. Obviously a rare occurance, has that ever happened "in real life"?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Didn't Wilson Alvarez throw a no-no in one of his first starts for the White Sox? Or am I thinking of Alex Fernandez? Or am I nuts? __________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

05-08-2002, 04:01 PM	#6
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	In my current season,2006, I had a 24 year old right handed starter pitch a complete game 1-hitter. He struck out 7 and walked 2 giving up a run. Funny thing was it was just an emergency start as I had a bad streak with injuries. I lost 2 starting pitchers to short term injuries and my no 1 setup man to a 2 month injury which forced me to use my normally 4th starter in an extra inning game. If it wasn't for some bad breaks he would not have had an oppurtunity to pitch this year. I had planned to review his progress after spring training next season and though he might have a shot at the 5th starter spot, if not, I was going to try and trade him. You just never know whats going to happen in baseball or OOTP. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

05-08-2002, 05:08 PM	#8
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by asamford: <strong>Wilson Alvarez pitched a no hitter in his 1st start ever for the White Sox in 1991, although it was his 2nd game in the majors. In 1989, he pitched a game for the Rangers and gave up 3 or 4 runs without retiring anybody. I think he was traded to the Sox the next day or something like that...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Does this mean Tony isn't nuts? How is that possible?

05-08-2002, 05:10 PM	#9
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	__________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

05-08-2002, 05:11 PM	#10
LAH Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Field of Screams Posts: 445	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dbotiger: <strong>Here's a nice first round pick story: Drafted a catcher number 1 rated Excellent across the board. Listed #1 in top 100 prospects...(I feel good!) By July he is already at AA. (I can taste the Hall of Fame, this guy is next year's Rookie of the Year...) By August, he is out for season and he ratings are now Fair across the board. (Now I am cursing the G-ds of injury....) By Beginning of Next Season I click on the player and drag to RELEASE. (I have enough bad catchers already...)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thats depressing. __________________ The Captain

05-07-2002, 08:25 PM	#1
Klaatulou Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 21	What A Way To Start! I just started a brand new fictional league that is based upon real players from 1970. I had a 21 year old kid named Pete Broberg who made the starting rotation. He threw one pitch in his major league debut, the batter grounded out, and poor Pete threw out a disc in his back. He is lost for at least two months. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for his career? I love this game! Just thought I'd share.

05-07-2002, 11:15 PM	#2
origamirazor Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 70	I once had a fictional 2b that I drafted and brought up through the minors. I was very exited because at 26 his ratings were all 7's except a 9 for homers. He also had an A for stealing and an A for speed to go with a .995 fielding percentage and a B range. In the first inning of his first career game, he dove for a ball and suffered a career ending injury! He never even got an at bat! Needless to say I took a break from ootp for a couple of days.

05-08-2002, 05:01 AM	#3
dbotiger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: FL Posts: 29	Here's a nice first round pick story: Drafted a catcher number 1 rated Excellent across the board. Listed #1 in top 100 prospects...(I feel good!) By July he is already at AA. (I can taste the Hall of Fame, this guy is next year's Rookie of the Year...) By August, he is out for season and he ratings are now Fair across the board. (Now I am cursing the G-ds of injury....) By Beginning of Next Season I click on the player and drag to RELEASE. (I have enough bad catchers already...)

05-08-2002, 03:10 PM	#4
Vyper Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 114	On the other side of the coin, in my 1886 or 1887 season, Flip Lafferty threw a no-hitter in his first major league start. Obviously a rare occurance, has that ever happened "in real life"?

05-08-2002, 04:37 PM	#7
asamford Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 1,769	Wilson Alvarez pitched a no hitter in his 1st start ever for the White Sox in 1991, although it was his 2nd game in the majors. In 1989, he pitched a game for the Rangers and gave up 3 or 4 runs without retiring anybody. I think he was traded to the Sox the next day or something like that...

05-10-2002, 05:57 AM	#11
mellenburg Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 7	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by origamirazor: <strong>I once had a fictional 2b that I drafted and brought up through the minors. I was very exited because at 26 his ratings were all 7's except a 9 for homers. He also had an A for stealing and an A for speed to go with a .995 fielding percentage and a B range. In the first inning of his first career game, he dove for a ball and suffered a career ending injury! He never even got an at bat! Needless to say I took a break from ootp for a couple of days.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think this guy was hitchiking on the side of the road while I was on my way back from Boston. He didn't become a doctor did he? <small>[ 05-10-2002, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: mellenburg ]</small> __________________ YOu never see a Rolles Royce with a bumper sticker that says "**** Happens"

05-10-2002, 09:00 AM	#12
paulytwotimes Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 10	regarding Alvarez, he was a prized Texas prospect at the time, and the White Sox were in the toilet. Larry Himes (Sox GM) engineered a deal with the Rangers in 1989, sending Harold Baines and Fred Manrique to Texas for Wilson Alvarez, Scotty Flethcer and a guy named Sammy Sosa. And, as we all know, Sosa was later traded to the Cubs for George Bell and cash. I still contend that the deal wasn't that bad for my Sox. Sure, in the long run it was, but they needed another stick in the middle of the order for a pennant run, and Sosa couldn't hit a beach ball at the time.

05-10-2002, 09:27 AM	#13
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	I drafted an 21 year old SP named Jason Wolfe in the 1st round a few years back. He had talents/ratings of AAB/117 and a 10 velocity. In his second minor league season, while at AA, he suffered a season ending injury, after which his talent dropped to FAB, though his actual ratings did not change. I kept him around. He fought his way back from the injury over the the next couple of years and finaly made it to AAA this year at age 24, and had AAB talents again. By mid-season he was rated 6 6 9 10. In august, he suffered a season ending injury, which dropped him to FAB 4 6 9 10. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />