Anyone sick of Fox marketing yet?

Anachronism · 10-12-2004, 08:14 PM

Give me a break already. They've been hyping the Boston / New York series like it is some kind of WWE event. They repeatedly show the fighting clips, talk about trash talk, and keep on talking about the brawls that are about to errupt in the series.

What ever happened to the game? What happened to the "Great American Sport?" Fox is turning the series into some massive trash talking bad assed event filled with backstreet attitudes... Is that how MLB wants to have their product portrayed?

Granted - their is no love lost between these two teams, and we all know that, but what about selling the game based on the two great teams that are about to clash, instead of focusing on the egos?

Ah well... I guess Fox is just doing what it does best.... appeal to the lowest common denominator.....

Dr. Walter Doodah · 10-12-2004, 09:25 PM

What on earth are they thinking? People hate conflict!

canadiancreed · 10-12-2004, 09:42 PM

selling the game is too complex for their target audience?

Dr. Walter Doodah · 10-12-2004, 09:57 PM

Maybe they want to hook in some marginal fans as well, who may be attracted by the conflict. Besides, everyone knows about 'the game' - it's baseball, and we all know what baseball is. Why do they need to show that?

Anachronism · 10-12-2004, 10:02 PM

Funny... because they push the other series using baseball as the main theme... why do they need to turn this series into some low-brow wrestling match?

Of course... with the entertainment value of tonights game... maybe they knew what they were doing (in hindsight)

Erik W. · 10-13-2004, 12:09 AM

They turn it into a low-brow wresting match because that's pretty much what the Sox/Yankees rivalry is all about.

KILLERBS24 · 10-13-2004, 12:55 AM

the coverage on Fox sucks, the announcers suck, their stupid graphics suck, the pregame sucks. Its a good thing for McCarver, people who don't know the game well were very enlightened tonight. They learned that 'Brandon' Arroyo was pitching tomorrow, not Pedro. That a curveball is really called a slider because he called every breaking pitch by Schilling a slider, moron. There were probably other great informational gems but frankly I zone out the announcing.
I actually liked the Star Wars/Evil Empire intro, but the fact that it seemed they had a video package for every damn thing got annoying quick. Treating Marianos trip/arrival like it was OJ driving down the 405 in the bronco was ******ed. 'Mariano is in the building', frankly I could care less.
It has definately gotten to the point where the playoffs suck to watch because your stuck with the National telecast overproduced, pop-culture view of the game. The regional broadcasts are a million times better because they mostly focus on the game, I can deal with homer announcers as long as they are talking about the game and not telling us to have a Budweiser, or talking about Springstein or hyping some ******ed reality show they have, ITS A BASEBALL GAME!!! Nothing ruins a sporting event more than it being covered by one of the big networks, and the sad thing is ESPN is catching up to them quick, its even getting hard to watch that now. I might just buy MLBRadio on the net next year and listen to the games, the telecasts are ridiculous

sebastian0622 · 10-13-2004, 01:05 AM

Oh yeah, and everything is super-climactically-awesomely-earth-shatteringly important. If a guy steals second in the bottom of the 3rd inning, he's the next Rickey Henderson.

I don't have anything against enthusiasm, but give me a break sometimes. Baseball is a game of leisure! Save the fake excitement. Go with the real excitement when it comes, but don't try to constantly manufacture it.

TotalEnd98 · 10-13-2004, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

...the announcers suck...

McCarver, yes. Leiter, kind of. Buck, no.

KILLERBS24 · 10-13-2004, 07:29 AM

Buck is alright but when your surrounded by the guys he is its hard to be any good!

clutch · 10-13-2004, 09:02 AM

I love how everytime Lieter announces he finds a way to mention the No-hitter he threw.

Gastric ReFlux · 10-13-2004, 09:23 AM

I turned off the volume when the Jeter lovefest began.

Jeter's really not a bad player, he hustles, and he's probably a pretty good teammate, but god I hate the way announcers fawn over him.

CommishJoe · 10-13-2004, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

the coverage on Fox sucks, the announcers suck, their stupid graphics suck, the pregame sucks. Its a good thing for McCarver, people who don't know the game well were very enlightened tonight. They learned that 'Brandon' Arroyo was pitching tomorrow, not Pedro.

Actually, Brandon Arroyo will be pitching against Pedro according to McCarver

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

Treating Marianos trip/arrival like it was OJ driving down the 405 in the bronco was ******ed. 'Mariano is in the building', frankly I could care less.

Sorry, but I thought that was a classy thing to do. He just went through some personal tragedy, and, as you can see, it was VERY important to the outcome of the game. At the time, it seemed like Mariano would just be a spectator, but the Boston offense had other plans. I see nothing to complain about here. Especially with all the other ammo the idiot(McCarver) provides us with

CommishJoe · 10-13-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

I turned off the volume when the Jeter lovefest began.

Jeter's really not a bad player, he hustles, and he's probably a pretty good teammate, but god I hate the way announcers fawn over him.

I agree with this. It does get sickening.

monkey_rodeo · 10-13-2004, 11:59 AM

what's sad is how much better the radio broadcast was.... and that was Jon Miller and Joe Morgan!!!!!!!!

the radio is almost always better for baseball.

LeiterFanatic · 10-13-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch

I love how everytime Lieter announces he finds a way to mention the No-hitter he threw.

hey now...... well, there was a perfect game going last night for a while and its better than hearing Joe Morgan talk about the Reds and Johnny Bench

clutch · 10-13-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LeiterFanatic

hey now...... well, there was a perfect game going last night for a while and its better than hearing Joe Morgan talk about the Reds and Johnny Bench

No no, that is not the point. He will always bring it up. Like during last years World Series or was it divisional playoffs, I can't remember. How he said "Marlins are playing great. I remember the last time they played this great they helped me throw a no-hitter."

He does it all the time.

"John Olerud played on my team when I played for the Mets. I wish he would have been on the Marlins when I threw my no-hitter. He would have liked it."

"Johann Santana has a great slider, and I should know about great sliders, because I used a lot of them in the no-hitter I threw."

marioh · 10-13-2004, 12:51 PM

The first and foremost thing FOX needs to do is can the entire Scooter bullshi*. I realize they have plenty of money invested in some questionable announcers, so canning McCarver is probably out of the question. But Scooter has got to go. I was hoping that FOX came to their senses after the first round series. Apparently not.

Anachronism · 10-13-2004, 03:19 PM

I keep waiting for scooter to explain a "fastball."

Just so all the baseball fans out there watching the championship series who don't know what a "fastball" is can be enlightened.

I'm sure there must be a LOT of fans like that...

blackamus · 10-13-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Anachronism

I keep waiting for scooter to explain a "fastball."

Just so all the baseball fans out there watching the championship series who don't know what a "fastball" is can be enlightened.

I'm sure there must be a LOT of fans like that...

Sorry pal, but it's already been done. "I come in so fast that the hitter has no time to react" :vomit smiley:

10-12-2004, 08:14 PM	#1
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	Anyone sick of Fox marketing yet? Give me a break already. They've been hyping the Boston / New York series like it is some kind of WWE event. They repeatedly show the fighting clips, talk about trash talk, and keep on talking about the brawls that are about to errupt in the series. What ever happened to the game? What happened to the "Great American Sport?" Fox is turning the series into some massive trash talking bad assed event filled with backstreet attitudes... Is that how MLB wants to have their product portrayed? Granted - their is no love lost between these two teams, and we all know that, but what about selling the game based on the two great teams that are about to clash, instead of focusing on the egos? Ah well... I guess Fox is just doing what it does best.... appeal to the lowest common denominator..... __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."

10-12-2004, 09:42 PM	#3
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	selling the game is too complex for their target audience? __________________ PT21 PT22

10-12-2004, 09:57 PM	#4
Dr. Walter Doodah Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not Libya Posts: 199	Maybe they want to hook in some marginal fans as well, who may be attracted by the conflict. Besides, everyone knows about 'the game' - it's baseball, and we all know what baseball is. Why do they need to show that? Last edited by Dr. Walter Doodah; 10-12-2004 at 10:01 PM.

10-12-2004, 10:02 PM	#5
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	Funny... because they push the other series using baseball as the main theme... why do they need to turn this series into some low-brow wrestling match? Of course... with the entertainment value of tonights game... maybe they knew what they were doing (in hindsight) __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."

10-13-2004, 09:02 AM	#11
clutch Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Valley of Nod Posts: 248	I love how everytime Lieter announces he finds a way to mention the No-hitter he threw. __________________ Favorite: Baseball Team: Philadelphia Phillies Football Team: Miami Dolphins Race Car Driver: Dale Earnhardt Jr.

10-12-2004, 09:25 PM	#2
Dr. Walter Doodah Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not Libya Posts: 199	What on earth are they thinking? People hate conflict!

10-13-2004, 12:09 AM	#6
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	They turn it into a low-brow wresting match because that's pretty much what the Sox/Yankees rivalry is all about.

10-13-2004, 12:55 AM	#7
KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	the coverage on Fox sucks, the announcers suck, their stupid graphics suck, the pregame sucks. Its a good thing for McCarver, people who don't know the game well were very enlightened tonight. They learned that 'Brandon' Arroyo was pitching tomorrow, not Pedro. That a curveball is really called a slider because he called every breaking pitch by Schilling a slider, moron. There were probably other great informational gems but frankly I zone out the announcing. I actually liked the Star Wars/Evil Empire intro, but the fact that it seemed they had a video package for every damn thing got annoying quick. Treating Marianos trip/arrival like it was OJ driving down the 405 in the bronco was ****ed. 'Mariano is in the building', frankly I could care less. It has definately gotten to the point where the playoffs suck to watch because your stuck with the National telecast overproduced, pop-culture view of the game. The regional broadcasts are a million times better because they mostly focus on the game, I can deal with homer announcers as long as they are talking about the game and not telling us to have a Budweiser, or talking about Springstein or hyping some ****ed reality show they have, ITS A BASEBALL GAME!!! Nothing ruins a sporting event more than it being covered by one of the big networks, and the sad thing is ESPN is catching up to them quick, its even getting hard to watch that now. I might just buy MLBRadio on the net next year and listen to the games, the telecasts are ridiculous

10-13-2004, 01:05 AM	#8
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	Oh yeah, and everything is super-climactically-awesomely-earth-shatteringly important. If a guy steals second in the bottom of the 3rd inning, he's the next Rickey Henderson. I don't have anything against enthusiasm, but give me a break sometimes. Baseball is a game of leisure! Save the fake excitement. Go with the real excitement when it comes, but don't try to constantly manufacture it.

10-13-2004, 07:29 AM	#10
KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	Buck is alright but when your surrounded by the guys he is its hard to be any good!

10-13-2004, 09:23 AM	#12
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I turned off the volume when the Jeter lovefest began. Jeter's really not a bad player, he hustles, and he's probably a pretty good teammate, but god I hate the way announcers fawn over him.

10-13-2004, 11:59 AM	#15
monkey_rodeo Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The rodeo!! Posts: 4	what's sad is how much better the radio broadcast was.... and that was Jon Miller and Joe Morgan!!!!!!!! the radio is almost always better for baseball.

10-13-2004, 12:51 PM	#18
marioh All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 1,162	The first and foremost thing FOX needs to do is can the entire Scooter bullshi*. I realize they have plenty of money invested in some questionable announcers, so canning McCarver is probably out of the question. But Scooter has got to go. I was hoping that FOX came to their senses after the first round series. Apparently not.

10-13-2004, 03:19 PM	#19
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	I keep waiting for scooter to explain a "fastball." Just so all the baseball fans out there watching the championship series who don't know what a "fastball" is can be enlightened. I'm sure there must be a LOT of fans like that... __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."