Anyone have a good league totals set ?

Tycobbler · 07-09-2004, 08:37 PM

I'm in my 7th season and my League totals are set at
AB- 166656
HITS- 44037
2B- 8822
3B- 934
HR- 5204
BB- 15878
HBP- 1849
K- 30777
AVG.- .297

These #'s are producing some nice results if you like high bat avg.'s , usually find the top 15 over .350 but haven't had a .400 hitter yet. I have had one guy hit 72 Hrs. a few seasons back, but i think it's time to change a few #'s to get back to reality.
Any suggestions as to what i should change which #'s to?
I started this with the default settings btw and it looks like i may have to tinker with them every few years.

Falcon52 · 07-09-2004, 08:53 PM

I usually guestimate. Generally, if i want to lower, for example, the homeruns in the league, I'd increase them to maybe 150 or 200. Same for most of the categories, except triples.

Akwebby · 07-10-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon52

I usually guestimate. Generally, if i want to lower, for example, the homeruns in the league, I'd increase them to maybe 150 or 200. Same for most of the categories, except triples.

So by incresing the set guideline the stat devices use, you actually decrease the homeruns the league leaders homerun average?

Falcon52 · 07-10-2004, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Akwebby

So by incresing the set guideline the stat devices use, you actually decrease the homeruns the league leaders homerun average?

If you want to decrease a stat, you increase the corresponding number in the setup. It's been explained somewhere why that is, but basically just think of it as decrease numbers to increase stats, or increase numbers to decrease stats.

akw4572 · 07-10-2004, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon52

If you want to decrease a stat, you increase the corresponding number in the setup. It's been explained somewhere why that is, but basically just think of it as decrease numbers to increase stats, or increase numbers to decrease stats.

Yes, that is correct. I believe most people would say decrease the number using a percentage. I.E., if your HR league totals are set to say 4000 (no correlation, just a random number), and your league ends up with 2500 homers, and you would rather see around 2000 homers, you would increase the set number (4000) by the same percentage you want the decrease to be, so you want HR's to drop by 20%, so make the setting 4800 (adding 800 which is 20% of the original 4000. I know it's confusing for the rookies, but that's what I was told when i was a rook.

Carlton · 07-10-2004, 01:59 AM

^

correct

Eugene Church · 07-10-2004, 03:52 AM

To get the league totals the way I want, I always run test leagues for about 2 seasons. Get your league ready...make a copy of it and use the copy to set your league totals. Don't use your regular league for the test because there will be player development and some stats will be stored. Resetting the league doesn't totally clear out all of the stats created by the test.

I sim a month at a time, look at League Batting and see how the league batting average looks...also look at the league leaders in doubles, triples, home runs, walks, strikeouts and hit by pitches. One month equals 1/6th of a season...2 months equal 1/3rd...3 months equal 1/2.

If at the end of the month, the league batting average is .270, I "increase" the number of hits in the league totals, this will "lower" the league batting average.

(If you want the league batting average higher, you would "decrease" the hits in the league totals).

If at the end of the second month, the league batting average is .265, I again "increase" the hits in the league totals, this will lower the league batting average. I keep doing this until I get to .260, which is '50s baseball.

If at the end of a month the leaders have 12 homers...In general, they are on pace to hit 72 homers...so I go in and "increase" the home runs in the league totals...this will lower the total home runs. If at the end of two months the HR Leaders have 20 homers, then I am on pace for 60 homers...If I want 50 homers, I will again "increase" the home runs in the league totals and lower them again...I do this for all the categories mentioned earlier.

I get the league totals where I want them usually by mid season of the second year. I continue to check league batting average and league leaders in the various categories throughout the season to make sure my league totals are in the range I want.

I also look at the individual pitchers' walk and strikeout ratio per 9 innings and make sure they look realistic. These can be found in the Pitching League Leaders. I want the pitching leaders to strikeout somewhere between 250-300 per season. If the walk and strikeout ratios and the strikeout leaders are not on pace for my numbers, I adjust the totals for those categories in the league totals. "Increase" the number to lower your league totals..."Decrease" them to raise them.

PLEASE NOTE IT IS NOT TRUE TO RAISE THE BAPIP TO LOWER IT.
When you want to "raise" the BAPIP, you "raise" the number.

You need to set your BAPIP for the Era you are playing. I play 1950's baseball and use .277 for the BAPIP. Henry compiled a table for each year since 1901.
Do a search to find it. It is a great help.

I hope this helps and is not too confusing. I will be glad to answer your questions.

Cowboys3356 · 07-10-2004, 09:50 AM

I am playing a historical solo league and just finished the 1989 season using the following totals and they worked nicely:

ABs- 144,100
Hits- 38,250
2b- 7,250
3b- 700
HR- 5,500
BB- 14,750
HBP- 1,000
Ks- 25,250
BAPIP- .289

Nobody hits .400 and nobody hits an obscene amount of homeruns, just good old 1980's style baseball. Also do NOT use Henry's League Totals as suggested by another user. While the chart was an excellent effort, it is a proven fact that if you enter the actual totals for a season that you will get very bad results. For example I used the numbers from Henry's table and had TEN players hit over 70 home runs. That is not good!

Eugene Church · 07-10-2004, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

I am playing a historical solo league and just finished the 1989 season using the following totals and they worked nicely:

ABs- 144,100
Hits- 38,250
2b- 7,250
3b- 700
HR- 5,500
BB- 14,750
HBP- 1,000
Ks- 25,250
BAPIP- .289

Nobody hits .400 and nobody hits an obscene amount of homeruns, just good old 1980's style baseball. Also do NOT use Henry's League Totals as suggested by another user. While the chart was an excellent effort, it is a proven fact that if you enter the actual totals for a season that you will get very bad results. For example I used the numbers from Henry's table and had TEN players hit over 70 home runs. That is not good!

Sorry for suggesting Henry's BAPIP. I thought it was accurate.

Cowboy: If I use your or someone else's league totals, will I get the same results in general?

I have tried to use league totals from a past league that worked well for me, but found that they didn't work in a new league. I always had to run test leagues for each and every new league.

I have found that the default settings in league totals are not very accurate either.

I would appreciate comments.

This would be a good thing to know.

Vris · 07-10-2004, 12:20 PM

I was doing a 1970 league not to long ago (may it RIP) and started using Henry's as a baseline. Sure I had to do a little tinkering, because I was trying to "mirror" the real life totals, but it wasn't all too bad.

dcpcarmona · 07-10-2004, 01:40 PM

Not sure if this has been touched upon, but I was wondering are league totals and park factors mutually exclusive or are they connected and feed off each other?

Matter2003 · 07-11-2004, 02:16 AM

I have almost got a nearly perfect setup for results similar to the 2003 season except for having roughly 1500-2000 AB's more than there should be....I am doing some testing to find out where the discrepencies are and I will post the totals once I get it figured out....

The only thing I have left to check for are Sac Fly's and Sac Bunts....

Matter2003

Kett · 07-11-2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Matter2003

I have almost got a nearly perfect setup for results similar to the 2003 season except for having roughly 1500-2000 AB's more than there should be....I am doing some testing to find out where the discrepencies are and I will post the totals once I get it figured out....

The only thing I have left to check for are Sac Fly's and Sac Bunts....

Matter2003

More at bats is merely just guys getting more hits and innings lasting longer. Assuming the league size is the same and the number of games is the same, the ab's could be too high due to random variance, a batting average thats too high, not as many double plays or too many extra inning games. Most likely there is not a lot you can do about having too many at bats, but it doesn't sound like there is that much more relative to the total so it shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Matter2003 · 07-11-2004, 04:17 AM

I thought the problem was that there were a lack of Sacrifice Flies and Sacrifice Bunts, but this is not the problem...I put bunts to very often and then simmed a season, ending up with about 800 too many....at the same time there are not enough sac flies...about 300 too few...I also ended up about 450 HBP short of where I should be, so I am raising this value to get it up to normal levels and will see what happens...

Also, found that setting SB's to seldom is too low...are almost 1,000 fewer SB's than occured in the 2003 MLB season(1475 to 2473)..will try again with normal...

Markus!!! We need a much better team statistics interface!!!! It is ridiculuos that I have to cut and paste every teams SB and CS numbers so I can get totals of anything but the basics...

Matter2003

07-09-2004, 08:37 PM	#1
Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,955	Anyone have a good league totals set ? I'm in my 7th season and my League totals are set at AB- 166656 HITS- 44037 2B- 8822 3B- 934 HR- 5204 BB- 15878 HBP- 1849 K- 30777 AVG.- .297 These #'s are producing some nice results if you like high bat avg.'s , usually find the top 15 over .350 but haven't had a .400 hitter yet. I have had one guy hit 72 Hrs. a few seasons back, but i think it's time to change a few #'s to get back to reality. Any suggestions as to what i should change which #'s to? I started this with the default settings btw and it looks like i may have to tinker with them every few years.

07-09-2004, 08:53 PM	#2
Falcon52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 615	I usually guestimate. Generally, if i want to lower, for example, the homeruns in the league, I'd increase them to maybe 150 or 200. Same for most of the categories, except triples. __________________ "D-FENCE! D-FENCE!"

07-10-2004, 03:52 AM	#7
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,984	To get the league totals the way I want, I always run test leagues for about 2 seasons. Get your league ready...make a copy of it and use the copy to set your league totals. Don't use your regular league for the test because there will be player development and some stats will be stored. Resetting the league doesn't totally clear out all of the stats created by the test. I sim a month at a time, look at League Batting and see how the league batting average looks...also look at the league leaders in doubles, triples, home runs, walks, strikeouts and hit by pitches. One month equals 1/6th of a season...2 months equal 1/3rd...3 months equal 1/2. If at the end of the month, the league batting average is .270, I "increase" the number of hits in the league totals, this will "lower" the league batting average. (If you want the league batting average higher, you would "decrease" the hits in the league totals). If at the end of the second month, the league batting average is .265, I again "increase" the hits in the league totals, this will lower the league batting average. I keep doing this until I get to .260, which is '50s baseball. If at the end of a month the leaders have 12 homers...In general, they are on pace to hit 72 homers...so I go in and "increase" the home runs in the league totals...this will lower the total home runs. If at the end of two months the HR Leaders have 20 homers, then I am on pace for 60 homers...If I want 50 homers, I will again "increase" the home runs in the league totals and lower them again...I do this for all the categories mentioned earlier. I get the league totals where I want them usually by mid season of the second year. I continue to check league batting average and league leaders in the various categories throughout the season to make sure my league totals are in the range I want. I also look at the individual pitchers' walk and strikeout ratio per 9 innings and make sure they look realistic. These can be found in the Pitching League Leaders. I want the pitching leaders to strikeout somewhere between 250-300 per season. If the walk and strikeout ratios and the strikeout leaders are not on pace for my numbers, I adjust the totals for those categories in the league totals. "Increase" the number to lower your league totals..."Decrease" them to raise them. PLEASE NOTE IT IS NOT TRUE TO RAISE THE BAPIP TO LOWER IT. When you want to "raise" the BAPIP, you "raise" the number. You need to set your BAPIP for the Era you are playing. I play 1950's baseball and use .277 for the BAPIP. Henry compiled a table for each year since 1901. Do a search to find it. It is a great help. I hope this helps and is not too confusing. I will be glad to answer your questions. Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-10-2004 at 04:10 AM.

07-10-2004, 01:59 AM	#6
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	^ correct

07-10-2004, 09:50 AM	#8
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,572	I am playing a historical solo league and just finished the 1989 season using the following totals and they worked nicely: ABs- 144,100 Hits- 38,250 2b- 7,250 3b- 700 HR- 5,500 BB- 14,750 HBP- 1,000 Ks- 25,250 BAPIP- .289 Nobody hits .400 and nobody hits an obscene amount of homeruns, just good old 1980's style baseball. Also do NOT use Henry's League Totals as suggested by another user. While the chart was an excellent effort, it is a proven fact that if you enter the actual totals for a season that you will get very bad results. For example I used the numbers from Henry's table and had TEN players hit over 70 home runs. That is not good!

07-10-2004, 12:20 PM	#10
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	I was doing a 1970 league not to long ago (may it RIP) and started using Henry's as a baseline. Sure I had to do a little tinkering, because I was trying to "mirror" the real life totals, but it wasn't all too bad.

07-10-2004, 01:40 PM	#11
dcpcarmona All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: at the New Moon Posts: 1,644	Not sure if this has been touched upon, but I was wondering are league totals and park factors mutually exclusive or are they connected and feed off each other?

07-11-2004, 02:16 AM	#12
Matter2003 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In the vicinity of Buffalo,NY Posts: 1,634	I have almost got a nearly perfect setup for results similar to the 2003 season except for having roughly 1500-2000 AB's more than there should be....I am doing some testing to find out where the discrepencies are and I will post the totals once I get it figured out.... The only thing I have left to check for are Sac Fly's and Sac Bunts.... Matter2003

07-11-2004, 04:17 AM	#14
Matter2003 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In the vicinity of Buffalo,NY Posts: 1,634	I thought the problem was that there were a lack of Sacrifice Flies and Sacrifice Bunts, but this is not the problem...I put bunts to very often and then simmed a season, ending up with about 800 too many....at the same time there are not enough sac flies...about 300 too few...I also ended up about 450 HBP short of where I should be, so I am raising this value to get it up to normal levels and will see what happens... Also, found that setting SB's to seldom is too low...are almost 1,000 fewer SB's than occured in the 2003 MLB season(1475 to 2473)..will try again with normal... Markus!!! We need a much better team statistics interface!!!! It is ridiculuos that I have to cut and paste every teams SB and CS numbers so I can get totals of anything but the basics... Matter2003