300 Saves = 3,000 hits and 500 Homeruns

CMH · 05-19-2004, 01:15 AM

According to Mariano Rivera collecting 300 saves is the very same as collecting 3,000 hits and 500 Homeruns.

Why?

...because you've got to have eight or nine good years of really doing the job."

Because eight or nine years of really doing the job will get you 3,000 hits and/or 500 homeruns?

JWay · 05-19-2004, 11:00 AM

lol

Gastric ReFlux · 05-19-2004, 11:04 AM

Who are you to question Mariano Rivera? Like I've ever seen you donning a major league uniform? Pffft.

CMH · 05-19-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Who are you to question Mariano Rivera? Like I've ever seen you donning a major league uniform? Pffft.

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Originally posted by JWay
lol

kingcharlesxii · 05-19-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by YankeePride
According to Mariano Rivera collecting 300 saves is the very same as collecting 3,000 hits and 500 Homeruns.

Why?

...because you've got to have eight or nine good years of really doing the job."

Because eight or nine years of really doing the job will get you 3,000 hits and/or 500 homeruns?

Well maybe 500 homeruns could be done in 9 years in the Steroid Era (that's 55.5 homeruns a year). However, I have yet to see a position player average 333 hits a year so I think his math is a little off on 3000 hits

dougaiton · 05-19-2004, 12:16 PM

Good years, though, KC. I'd call Ted Willaims' efforts worse than average - he didn't even get a hit half the time.

spleen1015 · 05-19-2004, 12:37 PM

Man, the Yankees are so great, all of their players should be in the HoF.

Mariano Riveria is so damn good they need to put him in the HoF before he retires.

Jonzard · 05-19-2004, 12:48 PM

He's no Gload

Rasmuth · 05-19-2004, 01:09 PM

My opinion is 400 or 500 saves is a better figure to be considered an alltime great...at least in modern baseball...300 I think is too low.

ctorg · 05-19-2004, 01:14 PM

Saves are relatively meaningless anyway. But if you have to go with something, make it 500. I figure a good closer gets as many saves in a year as a good power hitter gets homers, so 500 is a good number to go with.

KurtBevacqua · 05-19-2004, 01:15 PM

So would 300 saves be the same as 300 wins?

ctorg · 05-19-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by KurtBevacqua
So would 300 saves be the same as 300 wins?

When is the last time a guy had 50 wins in a season? And saves?

CommishJoe · 05-19-2004, 01:23 PM

Saves and wins are both basically meaningless.

drprestwood · 05-19-2004, 01:46 PM

If you want to get Mariano Rivera's attention, sit by the Yankees bullpen and heckle him in Spanish. Ask him if he wants to pleasure you orally. Guaranteed to get a dirty look!

Of course, then he comes in and gets the save anyway.

SoxWin · 05-19-2004, 02:13 PM

What an idiot.

Is Quantrill next? 300 holds = HOF !!!!!!

darkhorse · 05-19-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by spleen1015
Mariano Riveria is so damn good they need to put him in the HoF before he retires.

He'll have to stand in line.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...182#post709182

05-19-2004, 01:15 AM	#1
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	300 Saves = 3,000 hits and 500 Homeruns According to Mariano Rivera collecting 300 saves is the very same as collecting 3,000 hits and 500 Homeruns. Why? ...because you've got to have eight or nine* good years of really doing the job."* Because eight or nine years of really doing the job will get you 3,000 hits and/or 500 homeruns?

05-19-2004, 12:16 PM	#6
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Good years, though, KC. I'd call Ted Willaims' efforts worse than average - he didn't even get a hit half the time. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

05-19-2004, 12:48 PM	#8
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	He's no Gload __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

05-19-2004, 01:09 PM	#9
Rasmuth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate Western NY Posts: 1,760	My opinion is 400 or 500 saves is a better figure to be considered an alltime great...at least in modern baseball...300 I think is too low. __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=250426

05-19-2004, 01:14 PM	#10
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Saves are relatively meaningless anyway. But if you have to go with something, make it 500. I figure a good closer gets as many saves in a year as a good power hitter gets homers, so 500 is a good number to go with. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

05-19-2004, 11:00 AM	#2
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	lol

05-19-2004, 11:04 AM	#3
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Who are you to question Mariano Rivera? Like I've ever seen you donning a major league uniform? Pffft.

05-19-2004, 12:37 PM	#7
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	Man, the Yankees are so great, all of their players should be in the HoF. Mariano Riveria is so damn good they need to put him in the HoF before he retires.

05-19-2004, 01:15 PM	#11
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	So would 300 saves be the same as 300 wins? __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

05-19-2004, 01:23 PM	#13
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Saves and wins are both basically meaningless. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

05-19-2004, 01:46 PM	#14
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	If you want to get Mariano Rivera's attention, sit by the Yankees bullpen and heckle him in Spanish. Ask him if he wants to pleasure you orally. Guaranteed to get a dirty look! Of course, then he comes in and gets the save anyway.

05-19-2004, 02:13 PM	#15
SoxWin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Blissful ignorance Posts: 3,315	What an idiot. Is Quantrill next? 300 holds = HOF !!!!!! __________________ It's called partying. When you do a lot of it, you're bound to be places where the police show up. I smoke a lot of pot and drink a lot of beer. I also graduated Suma Cum Laude. ****ing sue me. - Luis Rivera