HBP - a followup

Folderol · 05-13-2004, 09:09 PM

I posted about this right after the game came out --- and after simming a full season, game by game, and into my second season, I still maintain that the HBP are exceptionally high.

Jeff Weaver has already hit 4 batter by the 6th inning in this game!

And this isn't the only instance, in my league it's rather common.

Anone else experiencing this? Or am I on crack?

Folderol!

Steve Kuffrey · 05-13-2004, 09:22 PM

Have you checked the player ratings for this? I've not seen it so it maybe a "roster set" issue.

Folderol · 05-13-2004, 09:24 PM

Checking......

Using Lahman 5.1, by the way....

Folderol!

Folderol · 05-13-2004, 09:49 PM

rating seem ok - for Weaver, 15hbp per 550bf.....weird.

Am I missing some other ratings?

Folderol!

tcblcommish · 05-13-2004, 10:48 PM

I think you can use the league totals to lower the amount of HBP.

Folderol · 05-13-2004, 11:54 PM

Heck, it's worth a try!

Folderol!

sporr · 05-14-2004, 11:48 AM

I haven't seen anything too abnormal with HBP. Probably just a fluke.

Eugene Church · 05-14-2004, 01:47 PM

Weaver average is 15 per 938 batters faced in real life.

The rating in OOTP6 is per 550 batters.

Thus his rating should be about 9 in the game...not 15.

The Hit Batter and Wild Pitch ratings in the game are probably set for Modern Day Baseball where they are higher than other eras.

I use Baseball-Reference to get HB ratings. Keep in mind the game rating is per 550 batters faced...Baseball-Reference's average will range from 400-1100 batters faced. You have to adjust them for OOTPB.

I just put in ratings for my alltime allstar league and found that the default ratings many times are 4 HB's and 4 WP's, which are high for 1950's baseball. At that time most pitchers range from 1-4 in each category. Today it is much higher.

You can adjust this in league totals, too.

I run tests in my league to set HBP ratings, which most of the time are not accurate in OOTPB defaults settings. If the individual leader is around 15 for being hit by a pitcher, then my totals are about right.

acs1970 · 05-14-2004, 05:18 PM

I'm getting 2-3 HBP a game at times. I believe its averaging out to about 1.5 per game, which is a lot of bruises, I think. It hasn't been uncommon to have as many as 5 in a game.

I'm using the default league stuff--I haven't tweaked anything.

05-13-2004, 09:09 PM	#1
Folderol Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 318	HBP - a followup I posted about this right after the game came out --- and after simming a full season, game by game, and into my second season, I still maintain that the HBP are exceptionally high. Jeff Weaver has already hit 4 batter by the 6th inning in this game! And this isn't the only instance, in my league it's rather common. Anone else experiencing this? Or am I on crack? Folderol! __________________ "LFGM!" - Pete Alonso

05-13-2004, 09:22 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Have you checked the player ratings for this? I've not seen it so it maybe a "roster set" issue. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-13-2004, 09:24 PM	#3
Folderol Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 318	Checking...... Using Lahman 5.1, by the way.... Folderol! __________________ "LFGM!" - Pete Alonso

05-13-2004, 09:49 PM	#4
Folderol Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 318	rating seem ok - for Weaver, 15hbp per 550bf.....weird. Am I missing some other ratings? Folderol! __________________ "LFGM!" - Pete Alonso

05-13-2004, 11:54 PM	#6
Folderol Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 318	Heck, it's worth a try! Folderol! __________________ "LFGM!" - Pete Alonso

05-13-2004, 10:48 PM	#5
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,439	I think you can use the league totals to lower the amount of HBP.

05-14-2004, 11:48 AM	#7
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	I haven't seen anything too abnormal with HBP. Probably just a fluke.

05-14-2004, 01:47 PM	#8
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,053	Weaver average is 15 per 938 batters faced in real life. The rating in OOTP6 is per 550 batters. Thus his rating should be about 9 in the game...not 15. The Hit Batter and Wild Pitch ratings in the game are probably set for Modern Day Baseball where they are higher than other eras. I use Baseball-Reference to get HB ratings. Keep in mind the game rating is per 550 batters faced...Baseball-Reference's average will range from 400-1100 batters faced. You have to adjust them for OOTPB. I just put in ratings for my alltime allstar league and found that the default ratings many times are 4 HB's and 4 WP's, which are high for 1950's baseball. At that time most pitchers range from 1-4 in each category. Today it is much higher. You can adjust this in league totals, too. I run tests in my league to set HBP ratings, which most of the time are not accurate in OOTPB defaults settings. If the individual leader is around 15 for being hit by a pitcher, then my totals are about right.

05-14-2004, 05:18 PM	#9
acs1970 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 61	I'm getting 2-3 HBP a game at times. I believe its averaging out to about 1.5 per game, which is a lot of bruises, I think. It hasn't been uncommon to have as many as 5 in a game. I'm using the default league stuff--I haven't tweaked anything. __________________ Chad S.