That was entertaining

Mudster · 04-24-2004, 11:40 PM

I really enjoyed that fight. The anticipation of the big punch was awesome. I tip my hat to Sanders for standing in there and taking his beating like a man while never trying to just "survive", but fighting the whole time. He had no idea where the hell he was at the end, but he never stopped charging. Good stuff.

Bam Bam · 04-24-2004, 11:41 PM

SENSATIONAL!!!!
tip of the hat to Sanders---

what now Erick???

mking55 · 04-25-2004, 12:01 AM

There were a couple of minutes of entertainment and excitement in that fight. However, Sanders was really just a flabby dud.

I hate when fighters are out of shape. That is like stealing money from the fans. Sanders should have been fighting Kirk 'the fatman' Johnson.

Sanders was only fighting for the title based on beating a very inferior Klitschko fighter. He is not a boxer but a guy who can occassionally throw a punch (when he isn't too winded).

Vitali Klitschko showed he is much smarter than his brother. He fought a smart fight, avoiding a potentially dangerous punch. But he fought a vastly inferior opponent. What did this fight prove? Nothing.

crusadecat · 04-25-2004, 12:11 AM

This situation is historically reminescent of the Great White Hope era except we don't have a Jack Johnson who is the real champ. We seem to have a collection of flawed fighters on a variety of accounts. Some have lousy technique, some have no chin, some are too small, some are too slow. some are too stupid . Makes for an interesting time but I'd trade it for one guy we could look at as the Champ.

GDE · 04-25-2004, 12:11 AM

Hopefully we can see Brewster/Byrd/Ruiz/Vitali against each other and get 1 guy for the pretenders to shoot for.

Bam Bam · 04-25-2004, 12:17 AM

its all relative, Sanders is a bum a decade ago, today, he's an average heavy with a good left.

erickdamac · 04-25-2004, 01:18 AM

What now erick? Im not impressed his last 3 fights been against fatty's see its a diffrence between being over your weight limit and being a total fatty, whenever I see rolls on the back of your back then your a fatty he beat 2 fatty's is it his fault that they are fatty's? No but can someone make a judgement on him after seing a fatty who landed 55 punches the whole fight 33 in the irst two rounds and stun him on more then 3 diffren occasions? NO! This was not the same Cory who fought wlad! He was fat and his hands was on his hips from round 2- on and he still stunned him more then 3 times and had him breating hard after the fight! But mad props to Klitsko for doin his thang I just wish fighters will come in inshape to fight him! I cant blame him tho he did what he had to do! But im not impressed at all.

Rasmuth · 04-25-2004, 02:46 AM

Lets see Klitschko fight Brewster next...why not...avenge that loss too.

Mr Big · 04-25-2004, 03:15 AM

I agree with Rasmuth. Vitali should fight Lamon. The whole family honor / revenge thing sells tickets. Brewster would be game and absorb a lot of punishment. But, in the end, he would succumb inside of eight rounds. This would unify the WBC and WBO belts. Klitschko could then steamroll John Ruiz in six to claim the WBA strap. Then he could bring back the aforementioned family honor / revenge incentive and pluck IBF champ Chris Byrds' feathers inside of 10. We would have an Undisputed Champion, and that would be that.

Personally, I would like to see that smart-mouth Roy Jones Jr. take his tiny little frame back up to the heavyweight division and take on Vitali. His obviously biased comments on April 10 about the Klitschkos "being able to dish it out, but not take it," were completely out of line. Vitali could take all he had to offer, and then turn around and knock his head off! I would pay big bucks to see that fight! Any thoughts?

erickdamac · 04-25-2004, 03:25 AM

Yup, Vitli win against the following: Brewster, Ruiz Maybe mcline and Tua.

Vitli have hard fights against, Hasim rahman, Byrd, Gomez

Vitli Straight out loses to the following: Roy jones (he must fight 2 fights at HW before takin on Vitli tho) Toney and Tyson! Tyson eats his glass chin up he would have to not get hit by tyson at all! because if he fluppin and running and grabing against a fat cory just think what tyson can do with one have lazy right? omg!

Rosco Jones · 04-25-2004, 09:36 AM

Can anyone say "Primo Carnera"?

Rosco

vistaman44 · 04-25-2004, 11:12 AM

Vitali Klitschko, world heavyweight champion.

Mr Big · 04-26-2004, 12:51 AM

Erick:

Man, here we go again! Do you honestly think that tiny little heavyweights like Roy Jones Jr., Mike Tyson, and James Toney are going to beat a giant like Vitali. He would have an almost 9 inch height advantage over all of these guys! Did you see how much trouble Tyson had trying to get inside against Lewis? The height thing was a definite factor in that fight, and Klitschko is 2.5 inches taller than Lennox. I've addressed the James Toney thing in another post, (he's been used to beating up middleweights, light-heavies and cruisers plus an old Holyfield). And, let's be completely honest. Can you imagine Antonio Tarver going more than a couple of rounds with Vitali? Out of shape or not, Roy Jones Jr. almost lost to Tarver in going the distance in November. I really hope Vitali Klitschko gets a shot at Roy Jones Jr. But, I almost forgot, Roy only calls out guys he can beat!

P.S. And Rosco, comparing Vitali Klitschko to Primo Carnera shows your ignorance of the sport.

erickdamac · 04-26-2004, 02:49 AM

There you go again with height tyson beated people 6'5 so height aint nuthin to tyson Roy might have problems with the height but toney wont because he is a inside fighter, see Tyson just have to hit him once he will fall simple look how he was banging ropes to ropes once sanders stunned him the guy chin is weak.

And the whole antonio thing is totaly silly that makes no sense thats like saying ali lost to frazier and frazier got his ass handed to him so ali cant beat foreman, well ali has the height and reach and oxing skills to beat foreman Frazier give ali problem because of his none stop coming foward swinging styles!

Listen Mr. Big we are not bashing Vitli we are bashing his opponets! So don't take it the wrong way we aint saying he did something wrong because I love this guy determination and desire to be champ but his last three fights been against fatty's! And he was stunned like 4 times against a fat sanders who only landed 18 punches from round 2-8, Id tyson can hit lewis 102 times he can hit vitli once and thats all he needs is one goos shot that will buckle his legs, Roy jones might not be able to beat him only if roy makes him fight his fight which roy is good at. Toney can beat him because he not roy he dont fight from the outside so the height wont mean nothing and if u thin vitli going to use his jab and keep him at bay? Got somethin for u after 2 rounds he will get tired and bam toney chest to chest banging the body hitting his head while cant being hit because of his slick defense!

See Im not just sayin toney can beat him because his fight with holyfield im going on his last two fights and how he fought, not the wins but how he fought, See if I got on klitsko last fight he won yes impressive no, but its a win, Toney last fight he won yes, impressive yes? why? because he showed he can take a punch he showed he can get inside and he likes to fight inside and he also showed a pop and some body punching skills.

dempsonny · 04-29-2004, 10:38 AM

For I think the first time I have to agree with Erick. I think you've been educated a little on boxing. I remember you arguing with me about Dempsey and Tunney being too small for todays HW's. What do you think Dempsey would do today in the HW division? What do you think Tunney would do? I think James Braddock could rule this class today.

Dempsonny

erickdamac · 04-29-2004, 02:34 PM

Agreed!

See When I was sayin dempsey and tunney and marciano was to small I didn't see how they fought watching them fight and seeing how they got inside, outside, clinching and stuff you see there skill level, vs today I think the only fighter with real skill is Toney, byrd seems to have defense skill but has not been using them as of late, braddock wouldn't be a contender in today boxing because of the way he fights its not a good way to fight in todays world. This era isn't bad its just lacking of a leader once we define who that is everything can come in place there fights seems to be more entertaining because of the lack of skill, thats why the lower class rules because they have skillful fighters like spinks, winky wright bernard, ect.

Mr Big · 04-29-2004, 07:43 PM

Erick:

Wake up and smell the coffee, dude. A leader HAS been established in the heavyweight division. His name is Vitali Klitschko. The World Boxing Council thinks so. Ring Magazine thinks so. And, according to separate polls conducted by HBO and Fightnews.com, approximately 80% of the boxing public thinks so. The train's leavin' the station, man. Stop being so stubborn and jump on board!

PittPanther · 04-29-2004, 10:23 PM

I think Tyson's left hook woulda knocked Klitscko back to the Ukraine.

Mr Big · 04-30-2004, 12:34 AM

Maybe in his prime, but not the Tyson of today.

erickdamac · 04-30-2004, 03:10 AM

Yes Tyson knocks him out! And lets be real The poll was open to the world he have a whole country voting thats how Yao ming get to start in the all star game because everyone in china is voting for him! Ring Meg is a reliable source but they are basically by the book, Chris is the champ he beat vitli and he has the longest run as champ!

So until he beats chris he is not the champ just like joe louis said until i beat max Im not the champ! Vitli lose to a huge punches like tyson, and he lose to a good fighter with talent and power like hasim rahman, and toney Until he fight A inshape Good chalenger then he is just a belt holder! Please vitli prove me wrong because i know you wont I predicted your brother will lose and be exposed and now you will be exposed when you fight a inshape challenger. Look what happens wwhen you fight a guy who didnt spar in trainging camp nyou get stunned 4 times lol!

04-24-2004, 11:40 PM	#1
Mudster Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 315	That was entertaining I really enjoyed that fight. The anticipation of the big punch was awesome. I tip my hat to Sanders for standing in there and taking his beating like a man while never trying to just "survive", but fighting the whole time. He had no idea where the hell he was at the end, but he never stopped charging. Good stuff.

04-24-2004, 11:41 PM	#2
Bam Bam All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,027	SENSATIONAL!!!! tip of the hat to Sanders--- what now Erick??? __________________ runs a 4.4 40..

04-25-2004, 12:17 AM	#6
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04-25-2004, 02:46 AM	#8
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04-25-2004, 03:15 AM	#9
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	I agree with Rasmuth. Vitali should fight Lamon. The whole family honor / revenge thing sells tickets. Brewster would be game and absorb a lot of punishment. But, in the end, he would succumb inside of eight rounds. This would unify the WBC and WBO belts. Klitschko could then steamroll John Ruiz in six to claim the WBA strap. Then he could bring back the aforementioned family honor / revenge incentive and pluck IBF champ Chris Byrds' feathers inside of 10. We would have an Undisputed Champion, and that would be that. Personally, I would like to see that smart-mouth Roy Jones Jr. take his tiny little frame back up to the heavyweight division and take on Vitali. His obviously biased comments on April 10 about the Klitschkos "being able to dish it out, but not take it," were completely out of line. Vitali could take all he had to offer, and then turn around and knock his head off! I would pay big bucks to see that fight! Any thoughts? __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

04-25-2004, 12:01 AM	#3
mking55 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boading, China Posts: 1,249	There were a couple of minutes of entertainment and excitement in that fight. However, Sanders was really just a flabby dud. I hate when fighters are out of shape. That is like stealing money from the fans. Sanders should have been fighting Kirk 'the fatman' Johnson. Sanders was only fighting for the title based on beating a very inferior Klitschko fighter. He is not a boxer but a guy who can occassionally throw a punch (when he isn't too winded). Vitali Klitschko showed he is much smarter than his brother. He fought a smart fight, avoiding a potentially dangerous punch. But he fought a vastly inferior opponent. What did this fight prove? Nothing.

04-25-2004, 12:11 AM	#4
crusadecat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 827	This situation is historically reminescent of the Great White Hope era except we don't have a Jack Johnson who is the real champ. We seem to have a collection of flawed fighters on a variety of accounts. Some have lousy technique, some have no chin, some are too small, some are too slow. some are too stupid . Makes for an interesting time but I'd trade it for one guy we could look at as the Champ.

04-25-2004, 12:11 AM	#5
GDE Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nancy,KY Posts: 193	Hopefully we can see Brewster/Byrd/Ruiz/Vitali against each other and get 1 guy for the pretenders to shoot for.

04-25-2004, 01:18 AM	#7
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	What now erick? Im not impressed his last 3 fights been against fatty's see its a diffrence between being over your weight limit and being a total fatty, whenever I see rolls on the back of your back then your a fatty he beat 2 fatty's is it his fault that they are fatty's? No but can someone make a judgement on him after seing a fatty who landed 55 punches the whole fight 33 in the irst two rounds and stun him on more then 3 diffren occasions? NO! This was not the same Cory who fought wlad! He was fat and his hands was on his hips from round 2- on and he still stunned him more then 3 times and had him breating hard after the fight! But mad props to Klitsko for doin his thang I just wish fighters will come in inshape to fight him! I cant blame him tho he did what he had to do! But im not impressed at all.

04-25-2004, 03:25 AM	#10
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Yup, Vitli win against the following: Brewster, Ruiz Maybe mcline and Tua. Vitli have hard fights against, Hasim rahman, Byrd, Gomez Vitli Straight out loses to the following: Roy jones (he must fight 2 fights at HW before takin on Vitli tho) Toney and Tyson! Tyson eats his glass chin up he would have to not get hit by tyson at all! because if he fluppin and running and grabing against a fat cory just think what tyson can do with one have lazy right? omg!

04-25-2004, 09:36 AM	#11
Rosco Jones Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 25	Can anyone say "Primo Carnera"? Rosco

04-25-2004, 11:12 AM	#12
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,576	The champion Vitali Klitschko, world heavyweight champion. __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) http://www.fistication.blogspot.com/ "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1970s SM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes Last edited by vistaman44; 02-22-2008 at 09:01 PM.

04-26-2004, 12:51 AM	#13
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	Erick: Man, here we go again! Do you honestly think that tiny little heavyweights like Roy Jones Jr., Mike Tyson, and James Toney are going to beat a giant like Vitali. He would have an almost 9 inch height advantage over all of these guys! Did you see how much trouble Tyson had trying to get inside against Lewis? The height thing was a definite factor in that fight, and Klitschko is 2.5 inches taller than Lennox. I've addressed the James Toney thing in another post, (he's been used to beating up middleweights, light-heavies and cruisers plus an old Holyfield). And, let's be completely honest. Can you imagine Antonio Tarver going more than a couple of rounds with Vitali? Out of shape or not, Roy Jones Jr. almost lost to Tarver in going the distance in November. I really hope Vitali Klitschko gets a shot at Roy Jones Jr. But, I almost forgot, Roy only calls out guys he can beat! P.S. And Rosco, comparing Vitali Klitschko to Primo Carnera shows your ignorance of the sport. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

04-26-2004, 02:49 AM	#14
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	There you go again with height tyson beated people 6'5 so height aint nuthin to tyson Roy might have problems with the height but toney wont because he is a inside fighter, see Tyson just have to hit him once he will fall simple look how he was banging ropes to ropes once sanders stunned him the guy chin is weak. And the whole antonio thing is totaly silly that makes no sense thats like saying ali lost to frazier and frazier got his ass handed to him so ali cant beat foreman, well ali has the height and reach and oxing skills to beat foreman Frazier give ali problem because of his none stop coming foward swinging styles! Listen Mr. Big we are not bashing Vitli we are bashing his opponets! So don't take it the wrong way we aint saying he did something wrong because I love this guy determination and desire to be champ but his last three fights been against fatty's! And he was stunned like 4 times against a fat sanders who only landed 18 punches from round 2-8, Id tyson can hit lewis 102 times he can hit vitli once and thats all he needs is one goos shot that will buckle his legs, Roy jones might not be able to beat him only if roy makes him fight his fight which roy is good at. Toney can beat him because he not roy he dont fight from the outside so the height wont mean nothing and if u thin vitli going to use his jab and keep him at bay? Got somethin for u after 2 rounds he will get tired and bam toney chest to chest banging the body hitting his head while cant being hit because of his slick defense! See Im not just sayin toney can beat him because his fight with holyfield im going on his last two fights and how he fought, not the wins but how he fought, See if I got on klitsko last fight he won yes impressive no, but its a win, Toney last fight he won yes, impressive yes? why? because he showed he can take a punch he showed he can get inside and he likes to fight inside and he also showed a pop and some body punching skills.

04-29-2004, 10:38 AM	#15
dempsonny Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: long island, n.y. Posts: 325	For I think the first time I have to agree with Erick. I think you've been educated a little on boxing. I remember you arguing with me about Dempsey and Tunney being too small for todays HW's. What do you think Dempsey would do today in the HW division? What do you think Tunney would do? I think James Braddock could rule this class today. Dempsonny __________________ A house without a dog is not a home.

04-29-2004, 02:34 PM	#16
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Agreed! See When I was sayin dempsey and tunney and marciano was to small I didn't see how they fought watching them fight and seeing how they got inside, outside, clinching and stuff you see there skill level, vs today I think the only fighter with real skill is Toney, byrd seems to have defense skill but has not been using them as of late, braddock wouldn't be a contender in today boxing because of the way he fights its not a good way to fight in todays world. This era isn't bad its just lacking of a leader once we define who that is everything can come in place there fights seems to be more entertaining because of the lack of skill, thats why the lower class rules because they have skillful fighters like spinks, winky wright bernard, ect. Last edited by erickdamac; 04-29-2004 at 03:10 PM.

04-29-2004, 07:43 PM	#17
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	Erick: Wake up and smell the coffee, dude. A leader HAS been established in the heavyweight division. His name is Vitali Klitschko. The World Boxing Council thinks so. Ring Magazine thinks so. And, according to separate polls conducted by HBO and Fightnews.com, approximately 80% of the boxing public thinks so. The train's leavin' the station, man. Stop being so stubborn and jump on board! __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

04-29-2004, 10:23 PM	#18
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,235	I think Tyson's left hook woulda knocked Klitscko back to the Ukraine. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

04-30-2004, 12:34 AM	#19
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	Maybe in his prime, but not the Tyson of today. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

04-30-2004, 03:10 AM	#20
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Yes Tyson knocks him out! And lets be real The poll was open to the world he have a whole country voting thats how Yao ming get to start in the all star game because everyone in china is voting for him! Ring Meg is a reliable source but they are basically by the book, Chris is the champ he beat vitli and he has the longest run as champ! So until he beats chris he is not the champ just like joe louis said until i beat max Im not the champ! Vitli lose to a huge punches like tyson, and he lose to a good fighter with talent and power like hasim rahman, and toney Until he fight A inshape Good chalenger then he is just a belt holder! Please vitli prove me wrong because i know you wont I predicted your brother will lose and be exposed and now you will be exposed when you fight a inshape challenger. Look what happens wwhen you fight a guy who didnt spar in trainging camp nyou get stunned 4 times lol!