Blown Saves

RadjanS · 04-08-2004, 12:08 AM

Maybe i'm just out of the loop or something, but will Blown Saves ever be added as a stat? Am I blind and it's already there?
Grazi!

Hammer755 · 04-08-2004, 12:09 AM

Already there, blindy.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-08-2004, 12:10 AM

Yes they are.

Ragnar · 04-08-2004, 12:30 AM

40+ seasons and I never knew it was there

EagleFan · 04-08-2004, 01:02 AM

It's under an assumed name, it's called a Mesa.

(bitter about last season's performance? who? me?)

Bald Eagles · 04-08-2004, 01:24 AM

I wish holds and blown saves were tracked on the box score. The saves and win/loss record are shown here after the era, but not the bs or the h.

Fat Bastard · 04-08-2004, 07:31 AM

They do show that a hold was recorded, however they dont show the total to the right like the saves do.

KurtBevacqua · 04-08-2004, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EagleFan
It's under an assumed name, it's called a Mesa. (bitter about last season's performance? who? me?)

You got nothin on me, I'm still bitter about the '97 series, and probably will be until the day I die.

jaxmagicman · 04-08-2004, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KurtBevacqua
You got nothin on me, I'm still bitter about the '97 series, and probably will be until the day I die.

Go MARLINS!!!

Cooker · 04-08-2004, 10:08 AM

I also never realized "blown saves" were tracked in OOTP.

Where is it?

Hammer755 · 04-08-2004, 10:34 AM

Drew 'Hurri' Cane

Pitching Stats - Second line down, Second column over

Gastric ReFlux · 04-08-2004, 10:35 AM

I'd like to add my support to having Blown Saves renamed as Mesas.

Zweiblumen · 04-08-2004, 11:34 AM

They're there, but they're one of those stats that disappears after the season ends (in OOTP 4 at least). It would be kind of nice if there weren't any stats that disappeared after the season. Another thing that I wish I could look at from time to time are the expanded standings from past seasons, but that's another issue

Matteo · 04-08-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammer755
Drew 'Hurri' Cane

Pitching Stats - Second line down, Second column over

I understand why you are well aware of the BS stat

enuttage · 04-08-2004, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matteo
I understand why you are well aware of the BS stat

Yeah, no kidding!

Should be Drew "Candy" Cane. Just melts away under a little heat and pressure.

-E

ComputerFreek129 · 04-08-2004, 04:08 PM

Hey... i always wondered what are the exact rules of a "save" i originally thought that it was if you entered a game where your team was leading by 3 runs or less, and you finished the game without giving up the lead. But it seems (in my OOTP3 version, at least) like if you close the game, and pitch at least 3 innings, you get a save, no matter what your lead is... hrmmm...

blown save... Koch comes to mind also.

mlyons · 04-08-2004, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ComputerFreek129
Hey... i always wondered what are the exact rules of a "save" i originally thought that it was if you entered a game where your team was leading by 3 runs or less, and you finished the game without giving up the lead. But it seems (in my OOTP3 version, at least) like if you close the game, and pitch at least 3 innings, you get a save, no matter what your lead is... hrmmm...

blown save... Koch comes to mind also.

This is off the top of my head, but I think it's pretty accurate. There are three ways to record a save. All of them involve entering the game with your team ahead, not allowing the other team to come back to tie or go ahead, and finishing the game. The first way to record a save is simply to pitch three innings or more to finish the game, no matter how big the lead might be. This is fairly rare nowadays, since relievers don't generally throw three or more innings in an appearance anymore. The second way is to enter the game with a lead of three or fewer runs and pitch at least one inning. The third, and trickiest, way to record a save is to enter the game with a lead, but with the potential tying run either on base, at the plate, or on deck. If you enter the game this way, you only have to record the final out to get credit for a save. In other words, your team could be up 7-2 with two outs in the bottom of the ninth, but if you enter the game with the bases loaded (which would put the potential fifth run on deck) you could get credit for a save.

Rizon · 04-08-2004, 07:23 PM

If someone wants to search Talk Sports, theres a couple of good Save Rules threads.

I think it came up after that A's pitcher was credited with a "save" last year in a 15-1 or something win.

04-08-2004, 12:08 AM	#1
RadjanS Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5	Blown Saves Maybe i'm just out of the loop or something, but will Blown Saves ever be added as a stat? Am I blind and it's already there? Grazi!

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04-08-2004, 07:23 PM	#18
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,370	If someone wants to search Talk Sports, theres a couple of good Save Rules threads. I think it came up after that A's pitcher was credited with a "save" last year in a 15-1 or something win. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

04-08-2004, 12:09 AM	#2
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	Already there, blindy.

04-08-2004, 12:30 AM	#4
Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,583	40+ seasons and I never knew it was there

04-08-2004, 01:02 AM	#5
EagleFan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 54	It's under an assumed name, it's called a Mesa. (bitter about last season's performance? who? me?)

04-08-2004, 01:24 AM	#6
Bald Eagles Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Waveland & Sheffield Posts: 402	I wish holds and blown saves were tracked on the box score. The saves and win/loss record are shown here after the era, but not the bs or the h.

04-08-2004, 07:31 AM	#7
Fat Bastard Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2	They do show that a hold was recorded, however they dont show the total to the right like the saves do.

04-08-2004, 10:08 AM	#10
Cooker All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 592	I also never realized "blown saves" were tracked in OOTP. Where is it?

04-08-2004, 10:34 AM	#11
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	Drew 'Hurri' Cane Pitching Stats - Second line down, Second column over

04-08-2004, 10:35 AM	#12
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I'd like to add my support to having Blown Saves renamed as Mesas.

04-08-2004, 11:34 AM	#13
Zweiblumen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	They're there, but they're one of those stats that disappears after the season ends (in OOTP 4 at least). It would be kind of nice if there weren't any stats that disappeared after the season. Another thing that I wish I could look at from time to time are the expanded standings from past seasons, but that's another issue

04-08-2004, 04:08 PM	#16
ComputerFreek129 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 58	Hey... i always wondered what are the exact rules of a "save" i originally thought that it was if you entered a game where your team was leading by 3 runs or less, and you finished the game without giving up the lead. But it seems (in my OOTP3 version, at least) like if you close the game, and pitch at least 3 innings, you get a save, no matter what your lead is... hrmmm... blown save... Koch comes to mind also.