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The Uniform History League
The premise of this league will be what would history have been like if the league's statistics had very little fluctuation. What if there was no deadball era or liveball era? What if the entire history of baseball was somewhere in between? Who would the stars have been? Probably many of the same stars will exist in this universe. One of the many questions will be: how many HR would Nap Lajoie hit without the deadball?
Here are my goals: Each season I am gonna have a target goal for league BA, 2B, 3B, HR, BB, and K. There will be some leeway as to how the stats end up as I don't want to sim seasons over and over. The key will be to get 1901 as close to the goals as possible and then adjust from there. Target stats: BA: Target: .260 **Acceptable Range: .245-.275 2B: Target: 3700 **Acceptable Range: 3300-4100 3B: Target: 800 **Acceptable Range: 700-900 HR: Target: 2400 **Acceptable Range: 2000-2800 BB: Target: 9500 **Acceptable Range: 8500-10500 K : Target: 12000 **Acceptable Range: 10500-13500 **I will give some leeway to some of the ranges if all the other stats are in line. I will report to you individual stats, but they will have no bearing on me changing the League Settings, the only things I will be looking at is League Stats as a whole when adjusting settings. Expansion: I don't know if I will be expanding at all come 1961. I may cut some players from draft pools to keep the teams somewhat in order. If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to PM, IM, or e-mail me. IM: woody062 E-mail: woody062@aol.com Now to get 1901 in line I am sure it is going to take quite a few tries.**Edit: I forgot to account for using a 162 game schedule, so I upped the target values ~5%.
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These are the teams that will be in the league from 1901-2000:
AL: New York Yankees(formerly Baltimore) Boston Red Sox Detroit Tigers Chicago White Sox Baltimore Orioles(formerly Milwaukee) Cleveland Indians Oakland A's(formerly Philadelphia) Minnesota Twins(formerly Washington) NL: Chicago Cubs San Francisco Giants(formerly New York) Los Angeles Dodgers(formerly Brooklyn) Cincinnati Reds Atlanta Braves(formerly Boston) Pittsburgh Pirates Philadelphia Phillies St. Louis Cardinals Let me know if you think another of the current major league teams deserves a slot over one of the above. Also I am using the same ERA settings through the entire history: Bunting: Normal Hit and Run: Normal Pinch Hitting: Normal Relievers: Normal Endurance: Normal Rotation Size: 4 None of those will change at all, so we will some early closers develop and some of the SPs in the future get some more starts then they really got.
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me too... this sounds like a good premise & I look forward to it... honestly, history is one of baseball's major strong suits...
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Okay, I ran a fantasy draft just to even things out. Here are the first 2 rounds so you can a feel for where the major players are.
Round 1: 1. Chicago (N) pick: P Al Orth 2. Minnesota pick: 2B Nap Lajoie 3. Atlanta pick: P Christy Mathewson 4. New York pick: P Jesse Tannehill 5. Cincinnati pick: P Deacon Phillippe 6. Cleveland pick: P Vic Willis 7. Detroit pick: P James Callahan 8. Oakland pick: P Jack Chesbro 9. St. Louis pick: P Cy Young 10.Boston pick: P Noodles Hahn 11.Los Angeles pick: P Doc White 12.Chicago (A) pick: P Red Donahue 13.Philadelphia (N) pick: P Happy Townsend 14.San Francisco pick: P Bill Dinneen 15.Baltimore pick: P Eddie Plank 16.Pittsburgh pick: P George Winter Round 2 : 17.Pittsburgh pick: LF Ed Delahanty 18.Baltimore pick: LF Jimmy Sheckard 19.San Francisco pick: SS Honus Wagner 20.Philadelphia (N) pick: LF Mike Donlin 21.Chicago (A) pick: P Earl Moore 22.Los Angeles pick: P Jack Powell 23.Boston pick: RF Elmer Flick 24.St. Louis pick: P Clark Griffith 25.Oakland pick: P Ned Garvin 26.Detroit pick: P Joseph Yeager 27.Cleveland pick: LF Jesse Burkett 28.Cincinnati pick: P Ed Doheny 29.New York pick: P Ted Lewis 30.Atlanta pick: RF Sam Crawford 31.Minnesota pick: P Bill Donovan 32.Chicago (N) pick: 3B John Mcgraw Gotta love Mathewson and Crawford is you are a Braves fan I also added a couple of fictional players to each team for depth purposes. I don't think they will have much effect on the outcome of anything. Update: I am currently on try #4 for evening out the league output, hopefully this one works. Try #2 had 3 guys reaching 70 HR with Buck Freeman finishing with 256 RBI.
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1901 Regular Season Highlights
Actual League Stats:
BA: .261 2B: 3772 3B: 813 HR: 2770 BB: 9754 K: 12347 League Settings Used: AB:76039 H: 21800 2B:3400 3B:1650 HR:207 BB:4675 K: 6400 Performance of the Year: Kid Nichols brought his A game to the park August 8th. He stepped to the plated in the fourth having not allowed an earned round on the day, he proceeded to club a homer. In the sixth he struck out the side and then followed it up with his 2nd HR of the day. In the 8th inning he stepped up with his team already leading 12-1 and clubbed his 3rd homer of the day. It is unfortunate that Kid Nichols game score couldn't be figured altogether(Pitching and Hitting) because it would have to be approaching 200. His final numbers for the day: Pitching: 9IP, 1R, 0 ER, 6 H, 4BB, 9K Hitting: 3-4, 3HR, 4RBI Season Highlights Highest Paid player: Nap Lajoie 16,720,000 No Hitters: Wiley Piatt, Jack Katoll Cycles: Emmet Heidrick, Kip Selbach, Sport McCallister 3HR Games: Harry Davis, Mike Grady, Elmer Flick, Charlie Hemphill, Harry Steinfeldt, Kid Nichols, Bill Coughlin Hit Streaks: 30 Nap Lajoie 9 RBI: Jim Jackson and Buck Freeman 6 Hits: Heinie Pietz and Pop Dillon Season Leaders Batting Average: .392 Jesse Burkett Homers: 48 Nap Lajoie and Dan McGann RBI: 173 Buck Freeman SB: 73 Roy Thomas ERA: 2.51 Doc White(but finished at a meager 12-14) Wins: 27 Al Orth Strikeouts: 196 Rube Waddell Saves: 36 Bill Phillips(also had a 13-2 record) Incredible Stat of 1901: John McGraw finished with 182 BB. With more BB spread amongst the league McGraw put up a huge amount. AL MVP: Nap Lajoie(Min) .384, 48 HR, 149 RBI, 158 Runs NL MVP: Buck Freeman(CHN) .312, 45 HR, 173 RBI, 131 Runs AL CY: Ed Murphy(Min) 26-6, 2.68 ERA, 162 K, 62 BB NL CY: Al Orth(CHN) 27-7, 2.69 ERA, 175 K, 51 BB
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1901 Postseason
The Pirates won a one game playoff over the Red to advance to the World Series.
World Series Matchup: AL Champs: Boston(100-62) Led By: Kid Nichols, Elmer Flick, Noodles Hahn, Chick Stahl, Steve Brodie, Wiley Piatt NL Champs: Pittsburgh Pirates(92-71) Led By: Ed Delahanty, Willie Keeler, Eagle Eye Beckley, Roy Patterson, Bill Bernhard Game 1: Red Sox 6-0 MVP: Noodles Hahn 7IP, 0 ER, 4H, 1BB Boston up 1-0 Game 2: Pirates 5-2 MVP: Rube Waddell 7IP, 2 R, 0 ER Tied 1-1 Game 3: Pirates 4-1 MVP: George Winter 7IP, 1H, 1 ER Pittsburgh up 2-1 Game 4: Red Sox 9-4 MVP: Chick Stahl 2-5, 2HR, 3RBI Tied 2-2 Game 5: Red Sox 5-1 MVP: Joe Yeager 9 IP, 6H, 1 ER Red Sox up 3-2 Game 6: Pirates 7-1 MVP: George Winter 9 IP, 3 H, 1 ER Series Tied 3-3 Game 7: Boston 14-1 MVP: Noodles Hahn 8 1/3 IP, 4 H, 1 ER Series MVP: Noodles Hahn 3-0, 0.78 ERA Red Sox claims the inaugural 1901 WS 4-3
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Offseason Higlights
Fielder Jones signs with Minnesota
Jimmy Collins signs with Pittsburgh Red Donhue signs with St. Louis(10,546,000X7years!!) Addie Joss goes to Cleveland with #1 overall pick George Mullin goes to NY Yankees with #2 overall pick. That is pretty much all the highlights for the offseason as it was pretty uneventful.
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Please let me know if there is anything that you think is lacking or that you would like to see and I will try to accomodate for 1902. I will probably post a condensed career leaders after every 5 or 10 years.
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Babe Ruth should put up some wild numbers at first. I am wondering what sort of numbers some of the other guys will put up before he even arrives. It should be interesting.
I should sim 1902 today, hopefully there won't any huge problems with the results, so I don't have to resim. I'll let you guys know.
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Yeah, his 1923 season should be monstrous, considering how far ahead of the pack he was. Once he gets to 1928 and beyond, he'll settle down into the 70's in HR
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With everything in line as far as homers for the league as a whole, I think it is possible that he could reach 100 HR, what does anyone else think. It will be fun once I get there. Maybe I will cut back some of the recaps and just pour out the league leaders and some of the individual performances so we can get some more history behind us quicker.
Also how often would you guys like to see the current career leaders? Every 5 years sound good? Or is 10 more sensible?
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5 for me, because career leaders is one of my favorite aspects... as for the Babe, it all depends, because when you import him, he'll come in as a SP and I don't think his HR ratings are too astronomical at that point... |
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5 is fine with me too....when it is all said and done...your career leader board at the end will be very interesting to look at.....tickles the "what-if?" side of my brain.
I predict the Babe will not hit 100 HR in a season....I'm going to say he'll set the record somewhere around 80-85.... |
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Now on to 1902
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1902 Regular Season Highlights
1902 Settings Used:
AB: 76039 Hits: 21650 2B: 3420 3B: 1650 HR: 245 BB: 4600 K: 6175 1902 League Stats: BA: .254 2B: 3715 3B: 791 HR: 2434 BB: 9115 K: 10569 No Hitters: Christy Mathewson and Jack Chesbro 6 Hit Games: Ollie Pickering, Cupid Childs 3 HR Games: Buck Freeman, Bill Keister, Ginger Beaumont, Tom McCreery Tom McCreery also homered in 6 straight games and was the first to have his HR talent increased to Average. Buck Freeman later joined him at Average. Will someone make it to good before Ruth arrives? Batting and Pitching Titles BA Champ: Jesse Burkett(CLE) .356 HR Champ: Sam Crawford(ATL) 53* RBI Champ: Harry Davis(PHI) 140 SB Champ: Roy Thomas(LAD) 71 ERA Champ: Al Orth(CHN) 2.34* Win Champ: Roy Patterson(PIT) 23 K Champ: Doc Newton(CHN) 225* SV Champ: Frank Morrissey(CLE) 33 *New League Record Awards AL MVP: Elmer Flick(BOS) .348, 33 HR, 116 RBI NL MVP: Sam Crawford .327, 53 HR, 126 RBI AL CY: Ed Murphy(MIN) 21-7, 2.47 ERA, 107 K, 44 BB NL CY: Al Orth 21-9, 2.34 ERA, 161 K, 33 BB AL ROY: Homer Smoot(MIN) .304, 10 HR, 82 RBI NL ROY: Jim St. Vrain 16-13, 2.59 ERA
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1902 Postseason
WS Matchup: Pittsburgh(102-60) vs Detroit(93-69)
Pittsburgh is led by: Jimmy Collins, Ed Delahanty, Roy Patterson, Bill Bernhard Detroit is led by: Fred Clarke, Frank Isbell, Nig Cuppy Game #1: Detroit 7-6 MVP: Doc Powers 2-3, 3 RBI Game #2: Pittsburgh 6-5 MVP: Ed Delahanty 2-5, HR, 2 RBI Game #3: Detroit 7-6(11 INN) MVP: Fred Clarke 3-4, HR, 3 RBI Game #4: Detroit 3-1 MVP: Carl Lundgren 8 1/3, 6H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K Game #5: Detroit 5-4(11 INN) MVP: Bill Bradley 2-5, GW HR in Bottom of 11th Detroit Wins Series 4-1 Series MVP: Fred Clarke .455, 2 HR, 5 RBI Pittsburgh loses in the WS for the second year in a row.
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1902 Offseason
Prize FA Signings:
Nap Lajoie(MIN) - 12 M X 3 Buck Freeman(NYY) - 7 M X 4 Al Orth(DET!!) 16 M X 5 Draft: Chief Bender(ATL) #1 Mordecai Brown(STL) #2 Johnny Evers(STL) #18 Now on to 1903. Looks good for Detroit as they won the WS and added the top pitcher so far in the offseason.
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