Abnormal program termination

Hawk Dawson · 05-06-2002, 04:04 AM

Okay, now whenever I start OOTP4, my league does not load (by default), and any operation I attempt to execute (load league, create new league, etc.), always results in a Visual C++ "Abnormal program termination", whereupon OOTP dies.
This is totally out of the blue, the game has been as solid as a rock previous to this ...

I've already used up my last 2 remaining license keys trying to install over the previous install, but to no avail. What is going on here ? How can I fix this ?

frustrated,

Hawk.

Scott Vibert · 05-06-2002, 04:22 AM

Have you deleted a league recently?

Do you have any other programs running while you play?

To get your liscences back contact Via Tech explain the situation and they are pretty good about restoring liscences.

Hawk Dawson · 05-06-2002, 04:35 AM

Scott, I have not deleted a league recently. All I have been doing is playing my 2002 (currently just completed 2007 season) career replay using the Rolen rosters.

If I do manage to get an extra license from Viatech, can this problem be resolved ?

Have you seen this error message before ?

Thanks,

Hawk.

Scott Vibert · 05-06-2002, 04:43 AM

One thing to check is to make sure you don't have some residual copy of OOTP4 running already. Do a Ctrl+Alt+Delete and look for OOTP4, if the game is running then the new copy you tried to open would have issues accessing the league file since it would still be open.

I have seen that message before and these are the two causes of it that I know of.

The default (quick-start/last used) league file is missing.

The default (quick-start/last used) league file failed to completely save when the game was last closed (typically occurs do to a crash of the system as the game was saving).

If you are ready to give up on the league you can simply copy the .dat files from the create folder into the default league folder and the game should start up...

Hope this helps..

tra3847 · 05-06-2002, 06:48 PM

I too have the same problem. I tried as you said to copy the DAT files from the create folder into a default folder to no avail. I'm assuming re-downloading the program would work if there is nothing else I can do to fix this problem. It's been 5 days since I last played and I'm SO missin this game.

Killebrew · 05-06-2002, 08:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tra3847:
I too have the same problem. I tried as you said to copy the DAT files from the create folder into a default folder to no avail. I'm assuming re-downloading the program would work if there is nothing else I can do to fix this problem. It's been 5 days since I last played and I'm SO missin this game.<hr /></blockquote>You don't have to download the program again unless you deleted the install file. Reinstalling the game seems to always work in cases where the user has accidently deleted required file(s), but in many cases game crashes come from a corrupt league, and these can't be saved by a reinstall.

OOTP/STB should give you an error message with the problem mentioned, otherwise it can be very difficult figuring out what went wrong just from "the game crashed" in this support forum. One example is is the "injury.txt" file in the OOTP4/STB2003 root folder. If that is deleted I believe the game will just crash with no warning - it should pop up an error stating "Can't find injury.txt file" or something like that. Hopefully more in depth error checking will be included in future versions so even if there are a few glitches, we can figure out the problem almost immediately.

Scott Vibert · 05-07-2002, 03:07 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Killebrew:
OOTP/STB should give you an error message with the problem mentioned, otherwise it can be very difficult figuring out what went wrong just from "the game crashed" in this support forum. One example is is the "injury.txt" file in the OOTP4/STB2003 root folder. If that is deleted I believe the game will just crash with no warning - it should pop up an error stating "Can't find injury.txt file" or something like that. Hopefully more in depth error checking will be included in future versions so even if there are a few glitches, we can figure out the problem almost immediately.<hr /></blockquote>Killer, I popped this into the known issues list last weekend so hopefully....

Hawk Dawson · 05-07-2002, 04:30 AM

Scott,
Thanks very much for the help here ! Your advice worked perfectly, but I did end up losing my career replay league though ...

Oh well, the game works now - that is the main thing !

Hawk.

tra3847 · 05-07-2002, 10:20 AM

The message I get along with Visual C++ Abnormal Program Termination is Runtime Error. What additional info could I give to help you with figuring out what the problem could be. I hate having to ask this question but I'm not big with computers.

tra3847 · 05-07-2002, 10:37 AM

Just in case it's asked.

I have 15GB of space on the harddrive.
64 MB of RAM

stickman721 · 05-08-2002, 02:57 AM

I just got this error last night after I downloaded the Rolen rosters. When I tried to open a league with those rosters I would get that error as it was saving the league settings. It would then kick me out of the game. If I go back in again and restore my game with the default rosters I have no problem though, I only have it trying to use the rolen roster patch after following his directions thoroughly.

Scott Vibert · 05-08-2002, 05:19 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tra3847:
The message I get along with Visual C++ Abnormal Program Termination is Runtime Error. What additional info could I give to help you with figuring out what the problem could be. I hate having to ask this question but I'm not big with computers.<hr /></blockquote>When is the game giving you the problem? Does it exist only with one league or with any league you try to start... describe in as much detail as you can what happens before the error.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by stickman721:
I just got this error last night after I downloaded the Rolen rosters. When I tried to open a league with those rosters I would get that error as it was saving the league settings. It would then kick me out of the game. If I go back in again and restore my game with the default rosters I have no problem though, I only have it trying to use the rolen roster patch after following his directions thoroughly.<hr /></blockquote>Almost sounds like the league file didn't download completely or isn't where the game expects it... Can you tell me what folders and .dat files are in the directory C:\Program Files\OOTP4\Rolen2002.lg ? (If you are running STB then substitute that folder for OOTP4) If you have all the folders you might want to try redownloading the file, if you are using AOL, you should do this using an external web browser (instead of the one built into the AOL program) as many people have reported download issues trying to download through the buitl in AOL browser.

Let me know if this helps you guys....

stickman721 · 05-08-2002, 05:39 AM

That was my thought, I may try downloading the league again to see what I get. I'm putting it right in the STB folder and the contents of the file looked exactly like the contents of my other saved game files. I only got the error message when I tried to start a game using the rolen files.

Scott Vibert · 05-08-2002, 05:50 AM

Are the file sizes of the .dat files similar to those in your other league folders? Are they similar to the size of the .dat files in the create folder?

tra3847 · 05-08-2002, 08:00 AM

I get this error message whenever I try to open an existing league or create a new league. When I go to open up the OOTP4 program it opens but once I click to get into the game from the screen with my license info, it is pretty much blank.

The day this first happened I got out of the game and restarted the computer. Once I got back in, my friend opened up one of the leagues and it opened however all of the names of the players were gone. He went to open up on of my leagues to see if the same had happened on mine and that is when the Runtime Error - Abnormal Program Termination began.

Scott Vibert · 05-08-2002, 09:37 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tra3847:
I get this error message whenever I try to open an existing league or create a new league. When I go to open up the OOTP4 program it opens but once I click to get into the game from the screen with my license info, it is pretty much blank.

The day this first happened I got out of the game and restarted the computer. Once I got back in, my friend opened up one of the leagues and it opened however all of the names of the players were gone. He went to open up on of my leagues to see if the same had happened on mine and that is when the Runtime Error - Abnormal Program Termination began.<hr /></blockquote>I would try to unliscence the game (done through the E-Liscence Controls (on the Control Panel)), uninstall and then reinstall the game, then just type in your order ID (make sure you save the reciept.txt document that was saved to your hard disk when you purchased the game) when you start it back up to re-liscence.

If the game starts up and works correctly after that then great go to town... if it doesn't report back exactly what you did each step and when the game crashed.

stickman721 · 05-08-2002, 10:39 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
Are the file sizes of the .dat files similar to those in your other league folders? Are they similar to the size of the .dat files in the create folder?<hr /></blockquote>I think so, I checked one or two of the files and they seemed similar in size. The only other thing I can think of, which may or may not be a problem and I will check tonight, is that I downloaded the file on one machine, burned it on a CD-R (thus making the files read-only) and then moved it to the other machine resulting in the error. Just a thought but if the files need to be written to and they are shown as read only that could be a problem. Am I out of my mind here or could that be an issue?

Steve Kuffrey · 05-08-2002, 10:56 AM

If the files are "read only" that is the problem, change that and you should be good to go.

stickman721 · 05-08-2002, 10:59 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey:
If the files are "read only" that is the problem, change that and you should be good to go.<hr /></blockquote>Thanks, I'll do that. Too bad I didn't remember that from the start and mention it then. Would have saved a lot of typing on my part.

05-06-2002, 04:04 AM	#1
Hawk Dawson Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 63	Abnormal program termination Okay, now whenever I start OOTP4, my league does not load (by default), and any operation I attempt to execute (load league, create new league, etc.), always results in a Visual C++ "Abnormal program termination", whereupon OOTP dies. This is totally out of the blue, the game has been as solid as a rock previous to this ... I've already used up my last 2 remaining license keys trying to install over the previous install, but to no avail. What is going on here ? How can I fix this ? frustrated, Hawk.

05-06-2002, 08:39 PM	#6
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tra3847: <strong>I too have the same problem. I tried as you said to copy the DAT files from the create folder into a default folder to no avail. I'm assuming re-downloading the program would work if there is nothing else I can do to fix this problem. It's been 5 days since I last played and I'm SO missin this game.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You don't have to download the program again unless you deleted the install file. Reinstalling the game seems to always work in cases where the user has accidently deleted required file(s), but in many cases game crashes come from a corrupt league, and these can't be saved by a reinstall. OOTP/STB should give you an error message with the problem mentioned, otherwise it can be very difficult figuring out what went wrong just from "the game crashed" in this support forum. One example is is the "injury.txt" file in the OOTP4/STB2003 root folder. If that is deleted I believe the game will just crash with no warning - it should pop up an error stating "Can't find injury.txt file" or something like that. Hopefully more in depth error checking will be included in future versions so even if there are a few glitches, we can figure out the problem almost immediately. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

05-07-2002, 03:07 AM	#7
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Killebrew: <strong>OOTP/STB should give you an error message with the problem mentioned, otherwise it can be very difficult figuring out what went wrong just from "the game crashed" in this support forum. One example is is the "injury.txt" file in the OOTP4/STB2003 root folder. If that is deleted I believe the game will just crash with no warning - it should pop up an error stating "Can't find injury.txt file" or something like that. Hopefully more in depth error checking will be included in future versions so even if there are a few glitches, we can figure out the problem almost immediately.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Killer, I popped this into the known issues list last weekend so hopefully....

05-08-2002, 05:19 AM	#12
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tra3847: <strong>The message I get along with Visual C++ Abnormal Program Termination is Runtime Error. What additional info could I give to help you with figuring out what the problem could be. I hate having to ask this question but I'm not big with computers.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">When is the game giving you the problem? Does it exist only with one league or with any league you try to start... describe in as much detail as you can what happens before the error. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stickman721: <strong>I just got this error last night after I downloaded the Rolen rosters. When I tried to open a league with those rosters I would get that error as it was saving the league settings. It would then kick me out of the game. If I go back in again and restore my game with the default rosters I have no problem though, I only have it trying to use the rolen roster patch after following his directions thoroughly.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Almost sounds like the league file didn't download completely or isn't where the game expects it... Can you tell me what folders and .dat files are in the directory C:\Program Files\OOTP4\Rolen2002.lg ? (If you are running STB then substitute that folder for OOTP4) If you have all the folders you might want to try redownloading the file, if you are using AOL, you should do this using an external web browser (instead of the one built into the AOL program) as many people have reported download issues trying to download through the buitl in AOL browser. Let me know if this helps you guys....

05-08-2002, 09:37 AM	#16
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tra3847: <strong>I get this error message whenever I try to open an existing league or create a new league. When I go to open up the OOTP4 program it opens but once I click to get into the game from the screen with my license info, it is pretty much blank. The day this first happened I got out of the game and restarted the computer. Once I got back in, my friend opened up one of the leagues and it opened however all of the names of the players were gone. He went to open up on of my leagues to see if the same had happened on mine and that is when the Runtime Error - Abnormal Program Termination began.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I would try to unliscence the game (done through the E-Liscence Controls (on the Control Panel)), uninstall and then reinstall the game, then just type in your order ID (make sure you save the reciept.txt document that was saved to your hard disk when you purchased the game) when you start it back up to re-liscence. If the game starts up and works correctly after that then great go to town... if it doesn't report back exactly what you did each step and when the game crashed.

05-06-2002, 04:22 AM	#2
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	Have you deleted a league recently? Do you have any other programs running while you play? To get your liscences back contact Via Tech explain the situation and they are pretty good about restoring liscences.

05-06-2002, 04:35 AM	#3
Hawk Dawson Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 63	Scott, I have not deleted a league recently. All I have been doing is playing my 2002 (currently just completed 2007 season) career replay using the Rolen rosters. If I do manage to get an extra license from Viatech, can this problem be resolved ? Have you seen this error message before ? Thanks, Hawk.

05-06-2002, 04:43 AM	#4
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	One thing to check is to make sure you don't have some residual copy of OOTP4 running already. Do a Ctrl+Alt+Delete and look for OOTP4, if the game is running then the new copy you tried to open would have issues accessing the league file since it would still be open. I have seen that message before and these are the two causes of it that I know of. The default (quick-start/last used) league file is missing. The default (quick-start/last used) league file failed to completely save when the game was last closed (typically occurs do to a crash of the system as the game was saving). If you are ready to give up on the league you can simply copy the .dat files from the create folder into the default league folder and the game should start up... Hope this helps..

05-06-2002, 06:48 PM	#5
tra3847 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 10	I too have the same problem. I tried as you said to copy the DAT files from the create folder into a default folder to no avail. I'm assuming re-downloading the program would work if there is nothing else I can do to fix this problem. It's been 5 days since I last played and I'm SO missin this game.

05-07-2002, 04:30 AM	#8
Hawk Dawson Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 63	Scott, Thanks very much for the help here ! Your advice worked perfectly, but I did end up losing my career replay league though ... Oh well, the game works now - that is the main thing ! Hawk.

05-07-2002, 10:20 AM	#9
tra3847 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 10	The message I get along with Visual C++ Abnormal Program Termination is Runtime Error. What additional info could I give to help you with figuring out what the problem could be. I hate having to ask this question but I'm not big with computers.

05-07-2002, 10:37 AM	#10
tra3847 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 10	Just in case it's asked. I have 15GB of space on the harddrive. 64 MB of RAM

05-08-2002, 02:57 AM	#11
stickman721 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4	I just got this error last night after I downloaded the Rolen rosters. When I tried to open a league with those rosters I would get that error as it was saving the league settings. It would then kick me out of the game. If I go back in again and restore my game with the default rosters I have no problem though, I only have it trying to use the rolen roster patch after following his directions thoroughly.

05-08-2002, 05:39 AM	#13
stickman721 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4	That was my thought, I may try downloading the league again to see what I get. I'm putting it right in the STB folder and the contents of the file looked exactly like the contents of my other saved game files. I only got the error message when I tried to start a game using the rolen files.

05-08-2002, 05:50 AM	#14
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	Are the file sizes of the .dat files similar to those in your other league folders? Are they similar to the size of the .dat files in the create folder?

05-08-2002, 08:00 AM	#15
tra3847 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 10	I get this error message whenever I try to open an existing league or create a new league. When I go to open up the OOTP4 program it opens but once I click to get into the game from the screen with my license info, it is pretty much blank. The day this first happened I got out of the game and restarted the computer. Once I got back in, my friend opened up one of the leagues and it opened however all of the names of the players were gone. He went to open up on of my leagues to see if the same had happened on mine and that is when the Runtime Error - Abnormal Program Termination began.

05-08-2002, 10:39 AM	#17
stickman721 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>Are the file sizes of the .dat files similar to those in your other league folders? Are they similar to the size of the .dat files in the create folder?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think so, I checked one or two of the files and they seemed similar in size. The only other thing I can think of, which may or may not be a problem and I will check tonight, is that I downloaded the file on one machine, burned it on a CD-R (thus making the files read-only) and then moved it to the other machine resulting in the error. Just a thought but if the files need to be written to and they are shown as read only that could be a problem. Am I out of my mind here or could that be an issue?

05-08-2002, 10:56 AM	#18
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	If the files are "read only" that is the problem, change that and you should be good to go. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-08-2002, 10:59 AM	#19
stickman721 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey: <strong>If the files are "read only" that is the problem, change that and you should be good to go.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thanks, I'll do that. Too bad I didn't remember that from the start and mention it then. Would have saved a lot of typing on my part.