Queer Street?

yabanci · 12-18-2003, 06:21 AM

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ChampMan · 12-18-2003, 08:14 AM

It mean the fighter is wobblely or dazed and doesnt quite have his feet....

Barman · 12-18-2003, 11:04 AM

I think it's somewhere in San Francisco?

Jim Trunzo · 12-18-2003, 03:37 PM

Queer Street: as in stemming from a queer (different, strange feeling). The fighter is on queer street - he was in trouble, not sure where he was, dazed, confused.

However, upon review, I'm thinking that it might not be very politically correct and possibly offensive. Look for it to be removed in the near future. Sad times when we have to worry about this but we want to respect everyone's views and preferences.

GDE · 12-18-2003, 06:54 PM

Jim,

If it's OK to have a show on TV called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, then it should be OK for a fighter to be on Queer Street when he's rattled/discombobulated/confused.

TSalathe · 12-18-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Trunzo
However, upon review, I'm thinking that it might not be very politically correct and possibly offensive. Look for it to be removed in the near future. Sad times when we have to worry about this but we want to respect everyone's views and preferences.

I say keep it in, dialog adds alot of realism to this game. I personally doubt most here would have any complaint about it. All this political correctness ruins alot of things. It has its place, but this is a game and all the phrases are appropriate.

swampdragon · 12-18-2003, 07:58 PM

I'm afraid I agree with Jim. We all know that Queer Street has nothing whatsoever to do with gays (Remember when "gay" meant happy and carefree?), but this is exactly the type of thing that could send a careless reviewer or a political correctness nut completely around the bend and cost the game sales from bad publicity. None of us want that, because we want the game to succeed so we can have addons, roleplay, automatic aging of fighters, and the other million or so things we've asked for.

darthpb · 12-18-2003, 08:23 PM

I doubt if you're going to get the "mainstream" here anyway so keep it in...word of mouth is what can help sell the game but unfortunetly this is a pretty specific genre...WE LOVE IT, we don't want idiots complaining about graphics et al. Jim, be content to be worshipped by we who can appreciate what you've done here.........but I digress

JeffR · 12-18-2003, 08:49 PM

As far as out-of-place text goes, I'd rather see the references to the ring card girls removed. It's a little odd to hear that when the fight you're running takes place in 1899...

GDE · 12-18-2003, 08:55 PM

I've seen the references to the ring-card girls, but have yet to SEE them. I know they exist in the game. They are in one of the animation files.

Am I the only one to NOT see the ring-card girls during gameplay?

doors11 · 12-18-2003, 09:16 PM

Your Right There are pictures of theose ring card girls and other stuff that I've had not seen yet either.

Has anyone had those to show up yet.

Also what about those ones in the 1024x768.

I run the game at 1280x1024

Could this be the reason why

Could it be the speed at which you run the game(I mean the game speed).

Rasmuth · 12-18-2003, 10:11 PM

where is the ring card girl file...I'd like to add some girls in there.

Cap · 12-18-2003, 10:25 PM

The word queer still means odd. Counterfeit money is still referred to as queer. I say keep it in. As for ring card girls......puhleeeze! I already have enough trouble explaining this game to my wife. It's supposed to be educational software.

Cap

yabanci · 12-18-2003, 10:26 PM

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GDE · 12-18-2003, 10:46 PM

I still never see them. I know it's not a big deal, but if I should be seeing them, I wanna see them.

yabanci · 12-18-2003, 11:28 PM

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yabanci · 12-18-2003, 11:35 PM

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Hollywood Blond · 12-19-2003, 12:43 AM

I do not think the term should be removed. It is in no way offensive and is a part of boxing terminology.

I mean, seriously. I am an advocate of homosexual rights, but it would be riduculous to say that a fighter "being on Queer Street" is politically incorrect. That is so ignorant.

If you were to remove the term, then using the same logic, the comments about ring girls should be removed as well, since the idea of a "ring girl" is so sexist.

The Tyranny of the Secular Sacred rears its head again...

PittPanther · 12-19-2003, 06:43 AM

Anyone that has ever followed the sport knows what being on "queer street" means. If you take it away, you will also take away part of the authenticity of the program.

jabbo · 12-19-2003, 01:20 PM

I favor equal rights for all, regardless of sexual preference, but I think that the term "queer street" is not offensive, as it refers to the word's legitimate meaning: "strange."

This reminds me of when a white mayoral aide a few years ago who was forced to step down after using the word "niggardly" correctly. Fortunately, many African-American leaders, including Jesse Jackson, rightly insisted that he be reinstated.

In an unrelated line, I also believe that it is more important to reflect the past accurately than try to "clean it up" and give a sanitized, false picture of the past. So I would urge you to retain such nicknames as "The Brown Bomber" and "Kid Chocolate." If a kid sees these in the game, I hope his father or someone else can expalin the context, and how the world has changed.

The Arranger

12-18-2003, 06:21 AM	#1
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	Queer Street? deleted. Last edited by yabanci; 12-20-2003 at 01:42 AM.

12-18-2003, 08:14 AM	#2
ChampMan Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Melbourne,FL Posts: 363	It mean the fighter is wobblely or dazed and doesnt quite have his feet.... __________________ http://burrowsleague.com/BLBWeb.html

12-18-2003, 11:04 AM	#3
Barman Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 11	Queer Street I think it's somewhere in San Francisco?

12-18-2003, 10:11 PM	#12
Rasmuth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate Western NY Posts: 1,760	where is the ring card girl file...I'd like to add some girls in there. __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=250426

12-18-2003, 10:25 PM	#13
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,009	The word queer still means odd. Counterfeit money is still referred to as queer. I say keep it in. As for ring card girls......puhleeeze! I already have enough trouble explaining this game to my wife. It's supposed to be educational software. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

12-18-2003, 03:37 PM	#4
Jim Trunzo OOTP Developments Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leechburg, PA Posts: 739	Queer Street: as in stemming from a queer (different, strange feeling). The fighter is on queer street - he was in trouble, not sure where he was, dazed, confused. However, upon review, I'm thinking that it might not be very politically correct and possibly offensive. Look for it to be removed in the near future. Sad times when we have to worry about this but we want to respect everyone's views and preferences.

12-18-2003, 06:54 PM	#5
GDE Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nancy,KY Posts: 193	Jim, If it's OK to have a show on TV called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, then it should be OK for a fighter to be on Queer Street when he's rattled/discombobulated/confused.

12-18-2003, 07:58 PM	#7
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	I'm afraid I agree with Jim. We all know that Queer Street has nothing whatsoever to do with gays (Remember when "gay" meant happy and carefree?), but this is exactly the type of thing that could send a careless reviewer or a political correctness nut completely around the bend and cost the game sales from bad publicity. None of us want that, because we want the game to succeed so we can have addons, roleplay, automatic aging of fighters, and the other million or so things we've asked for.

12-18-2003, 08:23 PM	#8
darthpb All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Queens, NY a mile from Shea Posts: 690	I doubt if you're going to get the "mainstream" here anyway so keep it in...word of mouth is what can help sell the game but unfortunetly this is a pretty specific genre...WE LOVE IT, we don't want idiots complaining about graphics et al. Jim, be content to be worshipped by we who can appreciate what you've done here.........but I digress

12-18-2003, 08:49 PM	#9
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,429	As far as out-of-place text goes, I'd rather see the references to the ring card girls removed. It's a little odd to hear that when the fight you're running takes place in 1899...

12-18-2003, 08:55 PM	#10
GDE Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nancy,KY Posts: 193	I've seen the references to the ring-card girls, but have yet to SEE them. I know they exist in the game. They are in one of the animation files. Am I the only one to NOT see the ring-card girls during gameplay?

12-18-2003, 09:16 PM	#11
doors11 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Creswell Posts: 650	Your Right There are pictures of theose ring card girls and other stuff that I've had not seen yet either. Has anyone had those to show up yet. Also what about those ones in the 1024x768. I run the game at 1280x1024 Could this be the reason why Could it be the speed at which you run the game(I mean the game speed).

12-18-2003, 10:26 PM	#14
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	deleted. Last edited by yabanci; 12-20-2003 at 01:44 AM.

12-18-2003, 10:46 PM	#15
GDE Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nancy,KY Posts: 193	I still never see them. I know it's not a big deal, but if I should be seeing them, I wanna see them.

12-18-2003, 11:28 PM	#16
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	deleted. Last edited by yabanci; 12-20-2003 at 01:43 AM.

12-18-2003, 11:35 PM	#17
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	deleted. Last edited by yabanci; 12-20-2003 at 01:43 AM.

12-19-2003, 12:43 AM	#18
Hollywood Blond Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 141	I do not think the term should be removed. It is in no way offensive and is a part of boxing terminology. I mean, seriously. I am an advocate of homosexual rights, but it would be riduculous to say that a fighter "being on Queer Street" is politically incorrect. That is so ignorant. If you were to remove the term, then using the same logic, the comments about ring girls should be removed as well, since the idea of a "ring girl" is so sexist. The Tyranny of the Secular Sacred rears its head again... Last edited by Hollywood Blond; 12-19-2003 at 12:49 AM.

12-19-2003, 06:43 AM	#19
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,235	Anyone that has ever followed the sport knows what being on "queer street" means. If you take it away, you will also take away part of the authenticity of the program. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

12-19-2003, 01:20 PM	#20
jabbo Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 73	I favor equal rights for all, regardless of sexual preference, but I think that the term "queer street" is not offensive, as it refers to the word's legitimate meaning: "strange." This reminds me of when a white mayoral aide a few years ago who was forced to step down after using the word "niggardly" correctly. Fortunately, many African-American leaders, including Jesse Jackson, rightly insisted that he be reinstated. In an unrelated line, I also believe that it is more important to reflect the past accurately than try to "clean it up" and give a sanitized, false picture of the past. So I would urge you to retain such nicknames as "The Brown Bomber" and "Kid Chocolate." If a kid sees these in the game, I hope his father or someone else can expalin the context, and how the world has changed. The Arranger