Pls explain new rankings program

djday45 · 11-18-2003, 11:14 AM

Hi guys,
I would like someone to explain in more detail how the new rankings system works pls.
I understand that under the new system only a fighter's last 10 fights will count towards his ranking points, thereby getting rid of the old problem of experianced fighters with lots of bouts being ranked higher than their current form deserves.

I have a couple of specific questions.

Jim has previously said the new system is more accurate and realistic now. does this mean points are given not only on the level of competition (overall rating of the opponent) as in the previous system but the type of result. For example a KO earning more points than a close split decision?

If I fight an opponent out of his current weight class where he has had the majority of bouts and is currently rated and schedule a bout at another weight class how does this affect his ranking in the new and the old weights?
I am thinking here when established champions ofen move up in weight to challenge another champ i.e Napoles-Monzon, Duran-Leonard. or sometimes a fighter often fights at multiple weights for various reasons for example La Motta, Langford, Fitzsimmons, and the obvious example of Henry Armstrong.

is it possible to be ranked in multiple divisons at the same time and how high would a fighter be ranked if he came in cold in a divison and defeated the current champ as with Leonard-Hagler?

rgds
Dean

Jim Trunzo · 11-19-2003, 10:33 AM

Let me see how many of these I can address:

1) The rankings system will take into account a fighters most recent fights, the level of his opponent, and the type of win - although the latter will have a minor affect, compared to the win itself. The behind the scenes algorithm is very complete and the level of competition factor is huge, as it should be.

2) Fighters can be ranked differently by various organizations. Therefore, your #1 ranked fighter in the WBA, might be #4 in the WBC and #7 in the WBO.

3) If you choose to fight a fighter out of his weight class and want him ranked in the new weight class, you'll need to move him there - i.e. have a copy of the fighter in that weight class. If you want him to simply fight out of his weight class but retain only one ranking -- that in his primary weight class -- then there's no problem.

4) As far as your last question goes, if a fighter comes in cold from another division and beats the champion in a title fight, that fighter will become the new champion.

djday45 · 11-19-2003, 12:17 PM

Thks Jim for taking the time to come back to me. The ranking system sounds much more detailed and comprehensive than the last version.

rgds
Dean

11-18-2003, 11:14 AM	#1
djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,502	Pls explain new rankings program Hi guys, I would like someone to explain in more detail how the new rankings system works pls. I understand that under the new system only a fighter's last 10 fights will count towards his ranking points, thereby getting rid of the old problem of experianced fighters with lots of bouts being ranked higher than their current form deserves. I have a couple of specific questions. Jim has previously said the new system is more accurate and realistic now. does this mean points are given not only on the level of competition (overall rating of the opponent) as in the previous system but the type of result. For example a KO earning more points than a close split decision? If I fight an opponent out of his current weight class where he has had the majority of bouts and is currently rated and schedule a bout at another weight class how does this affect his ranking in the new and the old weights? I am thinking here when established champions ofen move up in weight to challenge another champ i.e Napoles-Monzon, Duran-Leonard. or sometimes a fighter often fights at multiple weights for various reasons for example La Motta, Langford, Fitzsimmons, and the obvious example of Henry Armstrong. is it possible to be ranked in multiple divisons at the same time and how high would a fighter be ranked if he came in cold in a divison and defeated the current champ as with Leonard-Hagler? rgds Dean

11-19-2003, 10:33 AM	#2
Jim Trunzo OOTP Developments Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leechburg, PA Posts: 739	Let me see how many of these I can address: 1) The rankings system will take into account a fighters most recent fights, the level of his opponent, and the type of win - although the latter will have a minor affect, compared to the win itself. The behind the scenes algorithm is very complete and the level of competition factor is huge, as it should be. 2) Fighters can be ranked differently by various organizations. Therefore, your #1 ranked fighter in the WBA, might be #4 in the WBC and #7 in the WBO. 3) If you choose to fight a fighter out of his weight class and want him ranked in the new weight class, you'll need to move him there - i.e. have a copy of the fighter in that weight class. If you want him to simply fight out of his weight class but retain only one ranking -- that in his primary weight class -- then there's no problem. 4) As far as your last question goes, if a fighter comes in cold from another division and beats the champion in a title fight, that fighter will become the new champion.

11-19-2003, 12:17 PM	#3
djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,502	Thks Jim for taking the time to come back to me. The ranking system sounds much more detailed and comprehensive than the last version. rgds Dean