Your best pitcher ever

Lets Go Mets · 06-20-2002, 04:51 PM

I have a guy named John DiCarlo who I drafted as my first pick in the 2002 draft. He is now 39(Im in 2023).
He has won 321 games with a 2.87 career era so far. His walk to strikeout ratio isnt great(1417 k's to 1397 bb's).
He has won 7 Outstanding pitcher awards. His best season he had 29 wins!!
Im 1/2 through my 2023 season and hes my #5 starter and hes still 6-3 with a 4.06era.
He is by far the best pitcher i have ever had.
His only trouble is hitting

he has a .059 hitting average with 4 homers and 49 rbi...so hes also by far the worst hitter I've seen

MamboRat · 06-20-2002, 05:33 PM

In my Universal Baseball Association, the first place to look for outstanding pitchers is at one of my Year I pioneers, Fancy Dan Casey, who split his professional career mostly with the Keystones and Excelsiors.

In his 21-year career, Fancy Dan won 416 games (against 236 losses), had a lifetime ERA of 2.80, struck out 4,127 batters (and walked just 2046) and completed 482 of his 722 starts. Casey won 14 Pitcher of the Year awards, including ten straight from 1932-41. Casey and fellow Hall of Famer Tyonus Highland were honored in 1955 prior to the UBA's first All-Star game. The Outstanding Hitter and Pitcher awards were renamed the Highland Trophy and Casey Cup.

One young pitcher who could make a run at Casey's excellent records is Portland Pioneer ace Brock Rutherford. In just nine seasons, Brock the Great has amassed 203 wins and just 71 losses, with an ERA of 2.41! He has almost 2200 Ks in his 2700 innings. He has a Rookie of the Year award and seven Pitcher of the Year/Casey Cup honors in his nine years.

Baseball Dave · 06-20-2002, 06:54 PM

Dave Burba.

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Specs · 06-20-2002, 07:18 PM

Historically, Christy was great and Walter Johnson had a good run in the late teens for me, but Emil Yde, who finished with 353 career wins against only 118 losses, for a great .749 winning percentage during his career with the Pirates from 1924 to 1939 might have been the best ever. He won more than 20 games twelve times, twenty-five or more seven times in a row from 1930-1936 and eight times overall. His best ERAs were 1.72 and 1.83 during a hitting ERA, and he is the only pitcher to play all 10 years during the 30's and have an ERA under 3.87 (Lefty Grove's mark). He won 12 best pitcher awards, and 31 pitcher of the month awards.

However, Al Brazle may be on his tail. Traded to Boston during his rookie year, Brazle is now 35 after just seven seasons, but in those seven seasons he has made six all-star teams and won five best pitcher awards, and has won over 70% of his 242 career STARTS, and has a .842 winning percentage in his decisions. he will likely win about 210-250 games against about 50-75 losses before hanging them up after 10-12 seasons, and enter the hall of fame.

Mel_Ott · 06-21-2002, 03:12 AM

Hey, Mambo - wait 'til you see Brock's son; I hear Damon is quite the prospect!

TheRockCT · 06-21-2002, 03:25 AM

Only five years into a fictional league right now, but so far Albert Lovell of Hartford is BY FAR the best pitcher in the league. Excellent ratings across the board, and he's posted these stats in the last 5 seasons:

1975: 23-11, 2.04 ERA, 194 K's
1976: 27-9, 1.66 ERA, 244 K's
1977: 18-4, 2.00 ERA, 295 K's
1978: 24-6, 1.59 ERA, 305 K's
1979: 22-10, 2.04 ERA, 288 K's

Maple Leafs · 06-21-2002, 11:03 AM

I had a fictional league pitcher come up to the majors, throw a no-hitter in his fifth career starts, and win two Pitcher of the Year awards in hist first five seasons. He started his sixth season 6-0 with a ridiculous ERA (0.25 or something).

Then he blew out his arm, ending his career.

Damn you, baseball gods...

MamboRat · 06-21-2002, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mel_Ott
Hey, Mambo - wait 'til you see Brock's son; I hear Damon is quite the prospect!

Yes he is/was. Damon was actually in my Pioneer farm system when I restarted by UBA with OOTP. I am looking forward to having him try to follow in his dad's footsteps (and even Brock, Jr. who might surprise us all by performing better than advertised).

I can guarantee you this: Unless Markus puts in some nasty surprises in upcoming OOTP versions, Damon will not be killed by a Jock Casey beanball!

And Maple Leafs, I hear you man. Before I restarted my association, Newcombe Fasco was my winningest pitcher in history. This time around, he made it through just 2 1/2 seasons before suffering from a ruptured disc in his back. That ended the Hollywood Stars' hopes of a dynasty.

Lets Go Mets · 06-21-2002, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MamboRat
In my Universal Baseball Association, the first place to look for outstanding pitchers is at one of my Year I pioneers, Fancy Dan Casey, who split his professional career mostly with the Keystones and Excelsiors.

In his 21-year career, Fancy Dan won 416 games (against 236 losses), had a lifetime ERA of 2.80, struck out 4,127 batters (and walked just 2046) and completed 482 of his 722 starts. Casey won 14 Pitcher of the Year awards, including ten straight from 1932-41. Casey and fellow Hall of Famer Tyonus Highland were honored in 1955 prior to the UBA's first All-Star game. The Outstanding Hitter and Pitcher awards were renamed the Highland Trophy and Casey Cup.

One young pitcher who could make a run at Casey's excellent records is Portland Pioneer ace Brock Rutherford. In just nine seasons, Brock the Great has amassed 203 wins and just 71 losses, with an ERA of 2.41! He has almost 2200 Ks in his 2700 innings. He has a Rookie of the Year award and seven Pitcher of the Year/Casey Cup honors in his nine years.

How many guys you got in the rotation?

MamboRat · 06-21-2002, 11:59 PM

Depending on the team's pitching talent, I run with either four or five pitchers in the starting rotation. Casey was a stud, regardless of the caliber of players behind him in either Albuquerque or Dallas. He only won one Diamond King Championship, with the 1932 Keystones. Oddly enough, Albuquerque went five years between division titles, and the year they traded Casey to the Austin Rustlers (who traded him to Dallas the next season), the Keystones began a run of 11 straight Confederate League West crowns. Go figure.

jened · 10-15-2003, 10:27 AM

those UBA guys were edited to have huge ratings though ...

Gastric ReFlux · 10-15-2003, 11:39 AM

Dennis Murphy

This guy, although he's the edited creation of an experimental fictional league.

Still, 105 wins after 4 years, and 3 no-hiiters, I like him even though he was engineered.

moonshineboy · 10-15-2003, 11:54 AM

My best pitcher in the fictional league i play that started in 1888 & is now in 1956:

Jeremiah "Big Jere" Kanary from Toledo, OH
1900 RoY, 7 Cy Youngs, 2 MVPs, 3 Gold Gloves & 18 All Star Games in 23 years, all with the Toledo Mudhens, whom he helped to 13 NL pennants & 8 World Series titles.
573-206, 2.53 ERA, 5670 Ks in 7495 IP, plus 23-11 & 2.35 ERA in postseason play.
He is first all-time in wins, GP & GS, CGs & SHOs, IPs & Ks plus 3rd & 4th in ERA & winning % respectively.
He was also a .308 hitter with 86 HRs & 462 RBI in 2866 ABs.
He still holds single-season marks for wins (35), ERA (1.18), CGs (42), SHOs (16) & IPs (441).

Although he pitched in an era dominated by pitching, he was still a beast.

mfitterer1 · 10-15-2003, 01:05 PM

I had Roy oswalt win 127 games in 7 years and he had an era of 2.45

HammerinHamelin · 10-15-2003, 04:49 PM

I have a guy by the name of Alvin Vancleave, I traded a 5-star 1B prospect for him in 20010, when he was 23, and already in his 3rd full season in the majors. He was decent with Colorado during those 3 years, ERA slightly above 4 and a winning record. At age 24, in his first full season away from Coors Field, he went 23-2 with a 2.54 ERA, eventually winning the Cy Young. He's made the All-Star team 6 out of 7 years I have had him, and won the Cy Young 3 times so far.

This year, in 2017, he's having his best season yet, 15-2 with a 1.10 ERA. So far, in his 10-year career, he's 160-49, with a 2.58 ERA, and 1937 strikeouts.

DPW · 10-15-2003, 05:21 PM

Wish I could remember his name but...
He was my top pick in the 2003 draft of my second or third OOTP5 season. He was 20 when he first came into the league. 13 years later he had led me to 5 World Series victorys, 13 playoff appearances, and had amassed 200+ victories, 2000+ Ks, and 7 Cy Young awards and 13 All-star games.

His story with me ended when I let him go to free agency when he turned 33. He got a $20 million contract for 7 years. Surely those Yankees were going to feel silly in 5 years when he has taken his talent hits, I gloated. Sure enough he amassed another 2 World Series victories and never had an ERA above 3 in his time there. His victory total ballooned to over 300 and he was the new strikeout king. Yet, when he was at the end of his contract the Yankees didn't see fit to resign him.

In fact, no one did. He was a free agent at the beginning of spring training when I signed him to a 1 year deal. I figured it would be a nice farewell tour for him, because I would surely be getting an email with him declaring his intentions to retire at the end of the season. That email never came, and he pitched for 4 more years for me, ending with 399 wins, too many Ks to count and 13 Cy Young Awards.

gordyhulten · 10-15-2003, 06:36 PM

I think the folks who question whether enough players in OOTP play into their 40s should read this thread. It sounds like DPW's guy, in particular, must have played until he was 43 or 44.

;-)

Stieb · 10-15-2003, 06:43 PM

Jeff Russell. A Lahman Db import into a solo historical league. Career 363-65, with a 2.35 era, 5005 K, 0.97 whip. 10 Outstanding pitchers, including 9 in a row. Two seasons of 26-0, one at 27-1. Longest winning streak = 34 games.

Jeff Russell's real career stats (for those who think that MLB is real and OOTP is fiction) were 56-73 with an era of 3.75, mostly in relief.

AsTrOFaN · 10-15-2003, 07:05 PM

Mark Prior
422-69, 1.98 ERA, .79 WHIP, 4546 K, 4401 2/3 IP. 15 straight All-Star Appearances, and 14 Cy-Youngs during that time, including a 37-0 season with a .85 ERA

SpaceNinja · 10-15-2003, 07:31 PM

It's not my pitcher, but in the four and a half years of the MBBA, Steve Nebraska has been about as dominating as any pitcher could possibly be.

1973: 20-4, 1.81, 374 Ks
1974: 28-7, 1.53, 384 Ks
1975: 27-4, 1.85, 407 Ks
1976: 27-7, 1.49, 423 Ks
1977: 28-4, 0.85, 418 Ks (projected),

Oh, and he's only 24. He's been leading the league in everything every year since he was twenty. Needless to say, the owner who has him is basically the antichrist.

06-20-2002, 04:51 PM	#1
Lets Go Mets Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY NY Posts: 235	Your best pitcher ever I have a guy named John DiCarlo who I drafted as my first pick in the 2002 draft. He is now 39(Im in 2023). He has won 321 games with a 2.87 career era so far. His walk to strikeout ratio isnt great(1417 k's to 1397 bb's). He has won 7 Outstanding pitcher awards. His best season he had 29 wins!! Im 1/2 through my 2023 season and hes my #5 starter and hes still 6-3 with a 4.06era. He is by far the best pitcher i have ever had. His only trouble is hitting he has a .059 hitting average with 4 homers and 49 rbi...so hes also by far the worst hitter I've seen __________________ “He likes the ball out over the plate. He could be dangerous. He swings hard. He dives over the plate. He’s strong. You definitely don’t want to make any mistakes out over the plate.”--Bobby Valentine on Roger Clemens -------------------------------------------------- We got determination,Bass and Highs White Castle Fries only come in one size --Beastie boys

06-20-2002, 05:33 PM	#2
MamboRat Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 218	In my Universal Baseball Association, the first place to look for outstanding pitchers is at one of my Year I pioneers, Fancy Dan Casey, who split his professional career mostly with the Keystones and Excelsiors. In his 21-year career, Fancy Dan won 416 games (against 236 losses), had a lifetime ERA of 2.80, struck out 4,127 batters (and walked just 2046) and completed 482 of his 722 starts. Casey won 14 Pitcher of the Year awards, including ten straight from 1932-41. Casey and fellow Hall of Famer Tyonus Highland were honored in 1955 prior to the UBA's first All-Star game. The Outstanding Hitter and Pitcher awards were renamed the Highland Trophy and Casey Cup. One young pitcher who could make a run at Casey's excellent records is Portland Pioneer ace Brock Rutherford. In just nine seasons, Brock the Great has amassed 203 wins and just 71 losses, with an ERA of 2.41! He has almost 2200 Ks in his 2700 innings. He has a Rookie of the Year award and seven Pitcher of the Year/Casey Cup honors in his nine years. __________________ Ron Shearer Universal Baseball Association

06-20-2002, 06:54 PM	#3
Baseball Dave Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 89	Dave Burba. . . . . Kidding __________________ We don't stop playing because we get old. We get old because we stop playing-Satchel Paige

06-21-2002, 03:25 AM	#6
TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	Only five years into a fictional league right now, but so far Albert Lovell of Hartford is BY FAR the best pitcher in the league. Excellent ratings across the board, and he's posted these stats in the last 5 seasons: 1975: 23-11, 2.04 ERA, 194 K's 1976: 27-9, 1.66 ERA, 244 K's 1977: 18-4, 2.00 ERA, 295 K's 1978: 24-6, 1.59 ERA, 305 K's 1979: 22-10, 2.04 ERA, 288 K's __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

06-21-2002, 11:59 PM	#10
MamboRat Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 218	Depending on the team's pitching talent, I run with either four or five pitchers in the starting rotation. Casey was a stud, regardless of the caliber of players behind him in either Albuquerque or Dallas. He only won one Diamond King Championship, with the 1932 Keystones. Oddly enough, Albuquerque went five years between division titles, and the year they traded Casey to the Austin Rustlers (who traded him to Dallas the next season), the Keystones began a run of 11 straight Confederate League West crowns. Go figure. __________________ Ron Shearer Universal Baseball Association

06-21-2002, 03:12 AM	#5
Mel_Ott Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the deer and the antelope play Posts: 924	Hey, Mambo - wait 'til you see Brock's son; I hear Damon is quite the prospect! __________________ jgross's worst nightmare!!!!111 Owner, Sin City Swingers, OBTL

06-21-2002, 11:03 AM	#7
Maple Leafs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 234	I had a fictional league pitcher come up to the majors, throw a no-hitter in his fifth career starts, and win two Pitcher of the Year awards in hist first five seasons. He started his sixth season 6-0 with a ridiculous ERA (0.25 or something). Then he blew out his arm, ending his career. Damn you, baseball gods...

10-15-2003, 10:27 AM	#11
jened Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: upstate NY (saratoga county) Posts: 255	those UBA guys were edited to have huge ratings though ... __________________ cooper_gd's OTWE Results OTWE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: KING JENED III

10-15-2003, 11:39 AM	#12
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Dennis Murphy This guy, although he's the edited creation of an experimental fictional league. Still, 105 wins after 4 years, and 3 no-hiiters, I like him even though he was engineered.

10-15-2003, 11:54 AM	#13
moonshineboy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 50	My best pitcher in the fictional league i play that started in 1888 & is now in 1956: Jeremiah "Big Jere" Kanary from Toledo, OH 1900 RoY, 7 Cy Youngs, 2 MVPs, 3 Gold Gloves & 18 All Star Games in 23 years, all with the Toledo Mudhens, whom he helped to 13 NL pennants & 8 World Series titles. 573-206, 2.53 ERA, 5670 Ks in 7495 IP, plus 23-11 & 2.35 ERA in postseason play. He is first all-time in wins, GP & GS, CGs & SHOs, IPs & Ks plus 3rd & 4th in ERA & winning % respectively. He was also a .308 hitter with 86 HRs & 462 RBI in 2866 ABs. He still holds single-season marks for wins (35), ERA (1.18), CGs (42), SHOs (16) & IPs (441). Although he pitched in an era dominated by pitching, he was still a beast. __________________ It's all on the wheel.

10-15-2003, 01:05 PM	#14
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	I had Roy oswalt win 127 games in 7 years and he had an era of 2.45

10-15-2003, 04:49 PM	#15
HammerinHamelin Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 28	I have a guy by the name of Alvin Vancleave, I traded a 5-star 1B prospect for him in 20010, when he was 23, and already in his 3rd full season in the majors. He was decent with Colorado during those 3 years, ERA slightly above 4 and a winning record. At age 24, in his first full season away from Coors Field, he went 23-2 with a 2.54 ERA, eventually winning the Cy Young. He's made the All-Star team 6 out of 7 years I have had him, and won the Cy Young 3 times so far. This year, in 2017, he's having his best season yet, 15-2 with a 1.10 ERA. So far, in his 10-year career, he's 160-49, with a 2.58 ERA, and 1937 strikeouts.

10-15-2003, 05:21 PM	#16
DPW Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 29	Wish I could remember his name but... He was my top pick in the 2003 draft of my second or third OOTP5 season. He was 20 when he first came into the league. 13 years later he had led me to 5 World Series victorys, 13 playoff appearances, and had amassed 200+ victories, 2000+ Ks, and 7 Cy Young awards and 13 All-star games. His story with me ended when I let him go to free agency when he turned 33. He got a $20 million contract for 7 years. Surely those Yankees were going to feel silly in 5 years when he has taken his talent hits, I gloated. Sure enough he amassed another 2 World Series victories and never had an ERA above 3 in his time there. His victory total ballooned to over 300 and he was the new strikeout king. Yet, when he was at the end of his contract the Yankees didn't see fit to resign him. In fact, no one did. He was a free agent at the beginning of spring training when I signed him to a 1 year deal. I figured it would be a nice farewell tour for him, because I would surely be getting an email with him declaring his intentions to retire at the end of the season. That email never came, and he pitched for 4 more years for me, ending with 399 wins, too many Ks to count and 13 Cy Young Awards.

10-15-2003, 06:36 PM	#17
gordyhulten All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 1,175	I think the folks who question whether enough players in OOTP play into their 40s should read this thread. It sounds like DPW's guy, in particular, must have played until he was 43 or 44. ;-) __________________ Gordy Hulten Owner / General Manager Red Willow Roadrunners -- Kennel Series Champions: 1951, 1959, 1964, 1965, 1972, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1983 Dog Days Baseball - "The World's Best Online OOTP League" Creator inactive: Republican League - OOTP 2009 Dynasty inactive: Republican League Dynasty - Version 2.0 inactive: Republican League Dynasty

10-15-2003, 06:43 PM	#18
Stieb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 34	Jeff Russell. A Lahman Db import into a solo historical league. Career 363-65, with a 2.35 era, 5005 K, 0.97 whip. 10 Outstanding pitchers, including 9 in a row. Two seasons of 26-0, one at 27-1. Longest winning streak = 34 games. Jeff Russell's real career stats (for those who think that MLB is real and OOTP is fiction) were 56-73 with an era of 3.75, mostly in relief.

10-15-2003, 07:05 PM	#19
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Mark Prior 422-69, 1.98 ERA, .79 WHIP, 4546 K, 4401 2/3 IP. 15 straight All-Star Appearances, and 14 Cy-Youngs during that time, including a 37-0 season with a .85 ERA

10-15-2003, 07:31 PM	#20
SpaceNinja Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 92	It's not my pitcher, but in the four and a half years of the MBBA, Steve Nebraska has been about as dominating as any pitcher could possibly be. 1973: 20-4, 1.81, 374 Ks 1974: 28-7, 1.53, 384 Ks 1975: 27-4, 1.85, 407 Ks 1976: 27-7, 1.49, 423 Ks 1977: 28-4, 0.85, 418 Ks (projected), Oh, and he's only 24. He's been leading the league in everything every year since he was twenty. Needless to say, the owner who has him is basically the antichrist.