Team Cash Max

Mike Lowe · 09-29-2003, 05:59 PM

I'm looking to start a solo 2003 MLB game. I want to set the Team Cash Max to a # that would best represent MLBs Collective Bargaining Agreement signed earlier this season.

Just out of curiosity what was the old agreement with MLB? What would I have to set the Team Cash Max at to represent what it was in real life for the start of the 2003 season?

Thanks so much. This is a great community and I always find the answers to what I'm looking for. It shouldn't be long until this thread gives me the same results!

andjbock · 09-29-2003, 06:08 PM

2003-2006 CBA
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mlb...=20&fl=0&x=wrt

i think the current # is $117mm before the luxury tax kicks in

Mike Lowe · 09-29-2003, 06:16 PM

So, you're saying that I should try and set the Team Cash Max at 117M? I'm sort of confused.

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 07:15 PM

There is no cash max in baseball.

Mike Lowe · 09-29-2003, 07:28 PM

Well, there is a max that a team can "keep" and the rest goes into a pool that is distributed amongst the small market teams right?

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 07:53 PM

I think you are speaking of revenue sharing. However, there is no cash max. Just ask the Yankees.

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 07:56 PM

Revenue sharing determines how much a team has to pay into a pool to be divided up amongst the poor (welfare) . But there is nothing telling a team how much they can "keep".

Mike Lowe · 09-29-2003, 08:26 PM

So, should I set it at zero to replicate MLB or????

Thanks for the input.

saves the day82 · 09-29-2003, 08:29 PM

yeah, if you want yankee-esk dynasties possible where bench players are getting paid 6-7 mil a year...this is how I do it, I like trying to be like the yankees, no matter how much I hate them

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 08:31 PM

Your call. But I set it very high with no cap and give the big market teams (Yankees,Boston Atlanta, etc.) Huge TV contracts so I have a harder time competing with them in the free agent pool. Setting the cash high ($500,000,000 or so) allows me to save up in the lean years and resign my key players before they hit the market. Again it's your call.

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saves the day82
yeah, if you want yankee-esk dynasties possible where bench players are getting paid 6-7 mil a year...this is how I do it, I like trying to be like the yankees, no matter how much I hate them

Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel to be the Yankees all the time.My way is a little more challenging. But, you may not be looking for a challenge.

PBRmeASAP · 09-29-2003, 08:33 PM

I like it low ($15 mill) for the sake of competitiveness

saves the day82 · 09-29-2003, 10:11 PM

well since I've only played one or two dynasties past year 10 or so with no cap or cash reserve max I've never really gotten to my team to be like the yankees, I'm sure if I do it a few times I'll get bored of it, but for right now its a fun and interesting challenge

Skipaway · 09-29-2003, 10:45 PM

There is a huge downside with no or high cap limits. Some AI teams would pile up money as you do, and waste those money on some stupid 30mil a year contracts.

scotto313 · 09-29-2003, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skipaway
There is a huge downside with no or high cap limits. Some AI teams would pile up money as you do, and waste those money on some stupid 30mil a year contracts.

Just like "The Evil Empire". Very realistic is what I am saying.

Skipaway · 09-29-2003, 11:15 PM

No, it's not like the evil empire. With no cap limit, you'd see teams with 50 mil income sign players to 30mil a year.

Mike Lowe · 09-29-2003, 11:42 PM

So what should I set this at to reflect REAL MLB baseball? I don't care how silly it seems as long as it's real that's what I'm going for. MLB is screwy with things that involve money and it wont bother me either way.

Thanks for such good insight guys.

saves the day82 · 09-30-2003, 01:18 AM

yeah, I'd like to know the same thing...I haven't played enough to really know...I'm just in the early stages of experimentation myself

Skipaway · 09-30-2003, 01:39 AM

To have the "feel" right, I think you need cash caps in the 5mil~20mil range. It's not there in real life, but AI handled it well. They'll balance the book, and they won't have too much cash in hand to give out moronic contracts.

Come to think about it, I've not heard about teams saving money for future spending. So in a sense, low cash cap is realistic.

scotto313 · 09-30-2003, 03:32 AM

Are you saying the Yankees have no moronic contracts?

09-29-2003, 05:59 PM	#1
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	Team Cash Max I'm looking to start a solo 2003 MLB game. I want to set the Team Cash Max to a # that would best represent MLBs Collective Bargaining Agreement signed earlier this season. Just out of curiosity what was the old agreement with MLB? What would I have to set the Team Cash Max at to represent what it was in real life for the start of the 2003 season? Thanks so much. This is a great community and I always find the answers to what I'm looking for. It shouldn't be long until this thread gives me the same results! __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

09-29-2003, 06:16 PM	#3
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	So, you're saying that I should try and set the Team Cash Max at 117M? I'm sort of confused. __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

09-29-2003, 07:28 PM	#5
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	Well, there is a max that a team can "keep" and the rest goes into a pool that is distributed amongst the small market teams right? __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

09-29-2003, 08:26 PM	#8
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	So, should I set it at zero to replicate MLB or???? Thanks for the input. __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

09-29-2003, 10:45 PM	#14
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	There is a huge downside with no or high cap limits. Some AI teams would pile up money as you do, and waste those money on some stupid 30mil a year contracts. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-29-2003, 06:08 PM	#2
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	2003-2006 CBA http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mlb...=20&fl=0&x=wrt i think the current # is $117mm before the luxury tax kicks in

09-29-2003, 07:15 PM	#4
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	There is no cash max in baseball.

09-29-2003, 07:53 PM	#6
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	I think you are speaking of revenue sharing. However, there is no cash max. Just ask the Yankees.

09-29-2003, 07:56 PM	#7
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	Revenue sharing determines how much a team has to pay into a pool to be divided up amongst the poor (welfare) . But there is nothing telling a team how much they can "keep".

09-29-2003, 08:29 PM	#9
saves the day82 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: california Posts: 69	yeah, if you want yankee-esk dynasties possible where bench players are getting paid 6-7 mil a year...this is how I do it, I like trying to be like the yankees, no matter how much I hate them

09-29-2003, 08:31 PM	#10
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	Your call. But I set it very high with no cap and give the big market teams (Yankees,Boston Atlanta, etc.) Huge TV contracts so I have a harder time competing with them in the free agent pool. Setting the cash high ($500,000,000 or so) allows me to save up in the lean years and resign my key players before they hit the market. Again it's your call.

09-29-2003, 08:33 PM	#12
PBRmeASAP Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 63	I like it low ($15 mill) for the sake of competitiveness

09-29-2003, 10:11 PM	#13
saves the day82 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: california Posts: 69	well since I've only played one or two dynasties past year 10 or so with no cap or cash reserve max I've never really gotten to my team to be like the yankees, I'm sure if I do it a few times I'll get bored of it, but for right now its a fun and interesting challenge

09-29-2003, 11:15 PM	#16
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	No, it's not like the evil empire. With no cap limit, you'd see teams with 50 mil income sign players to 30mil a year. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-29-2003, 11:42 PM	#17
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	So what should I set this at to reflect REAL MLB baseball? I don't care how silly it seems as long as it's real that's what I'm going for. MLB is screwy with things that involve money and it wont bother me either way. Thanks for such good insight guys. __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

09-30-2003, 01:18 AM	#18
saves the day82 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: california Posts: 69	yeah, I'd like to know the same thing...I haven't played enough to really know...I'm just in the early stages of experimentation myself

09-30-2003, 01:39 AM	#19
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	To have the "feel" right, I think you need cash caps in the 5mil~20mil range. It's not there in real life, but AI handled it well. They'll balance the book, and they won't have too much cash in hand to give out moronic contracts. Come to think about it, I've not heard about teams saving money for future spending. So in a sense, low cash cap is realistic. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-30-2003, 03:32 AM	#20
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	Are you saying the Yankees have no moronic contracts?