sending prospect back to AAA

obaslg · 09-03-2003, 04:12 PM

I think I've seen this before, but I couldn't find it in search.

I'm thinking of sending a prospect back to AAA after a full season in the majors. When I brought him up at the start of last year, he was G/F/G (avg/HR/BB) and 6/2/6 at age 22, and his text said he could hold his own. His HR talent increased to good. He had a weak year for those ratings - .677 OPS.

I've acquired a player, so I don't need the prospect in the majors, but I could use him next year. His text still says hold his own.

My question: Am I going to screw him up if I send him down to AAA for the year? I realize that this is all pretty speculative, but I'm curious if people have experience with this.

Thanks for any help.

andjbock · 09-03-2003, 04:31 PM

i've had guys bounce back and forth, who panned out fine, but they were called up midseason and then started the next year in the minors, only to be called up again after a short while

Cooker · 09-03-2003, 04:33 PM

I had a player who had a great rookie season but then suffered a horrific sophomore slump. Went from a .300 avg. his rookie year to .220 by the middle of his sophomore year.

Halfway through his sophomore year I sent him down to AAA, thinking that maybe he'd regain his stroke or batting eye or something. He stayed in AAA for about a month and hit .270 or so in AAA. I brought him back up and he raised his avg. for the year slightly to .225.

His third year he re-found his batting eye or stroke or whatever and is currently hitting .295.

So my answer is, at least in this case, having him spend a little time his 2nd year in AAA didn't seem to help or hurt.

rwd59 · 09-03-2003, 07:00 PM

I have had a number of hitters with great potential ratings with so-so actual ratings he seem to hit a wall at AAA. I call them up for a year without much if any rating improvement, send them back to AAA the next season and watch their ratings explode while in AAA this time. Doesn't work every time but it does often enough to make it a strategy I use regularly. I have had guys with 4-2 avg-Hr go to 6-9 in one year. Doesn't seem to work as well for pitchers.

obaslg · 09-03-2003, 09:44 PM

THAT's interesting - thanks to all.

Dave Hansen · 09-04-2003, 12:36 PM

I trade 'em. Or a least 80% of the time.

A player that is in a bad sophomore slump, by mid year I shop around and try to find a good up and coming player. Look for a guy who is performing well and better than the previous year. I'll check to see how much player development he has under gone. If his numbers are up for the year and so is his development I'll go for the trade. Most cases works out okay. I keep my eye on the player I traded away for the rest of the year.

Batting 4 for 6 with this approach after a two year trade evalution review.

As a Card's fan, would have traded Rick Ankiel for a average/good SP that is so desperately needed today in the rotation. On the other hand I would hang on to JD Drew.

ctorg · 09-04-2003, 12:49 PM

I did something like what you're doing, actually. I had an awesome RF who seemed ready for the show. I brought him up to start, but he bombed in his first year. I traded for a 35-year-old former All Star who still had some good skills and one year left on his contract. The newbie went down to AAA for his second season. He didn't even get one at bat in the majors. He developed nicely while down there. The next year, I let the 35-year-old go and brought the newbie back up. He was one of the top contenders for MVP. He hit about .300 with 40+ homers.

09-03-2003, 04:12 PM	#1
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 887	sending prospect back to AAA I think I've seen this before, but I couldn't find it in search. I'm thinking of sending a prospect back to AAA after a full season in the majors. When I brought him up at the start of last year, he was G/F/G (avg/HR/BB) and 6/2/6 at age 22, and his text said he could hold his own. His HR talent increased to good. He had a weak year for those ratings - .677 OPS. I've acquired a player, so I don't need the prospect in the majors, but I could use him next year. His text still says hold his own. My question: Am I going to screw him up if I send him down to AAA for the year? I realize that this is all pretty speculative, but I'm curious if people have experience with this. Thanks for any help.

09-03-2003, 09:44 PM	#5
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 887	THAT's interesting - thanks to all. __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.

09-04-2003, 12:49 PM	#7
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I did something like what you're doing, actually. I had an awesome RF who seemed ready for the show. I brought him up to start, but he bombed in his first year. I traded for a 35-year-old former All Star who still had some good skills and one year left on his contract. The newbie went down to AAA for his second season. He didn't even get one at bat in the majors. He developed nicely while down there. The next year, I let the 35-year-old go and brought the newbie back up. He was one of the top contenders for MVP. He hit about .300 with 40+ homers. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

09-03-2003, 04:31 PM	#2
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,637	i've had guys bounce back and forth, who panned out fine, but they were called up midseason and then started the next year in the minors, only to be called up again after a short while

09-03-2003, 04:33 PM	#3
Cooker All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 592	I had a player who had a great rookie season but then suffered a horrific sophomore slump. Went from a .300 avg. his rookie year to .220 by the middle of his sophomore year. Halfway through his sophomore year I sent him down to AAA, thinking that maybe he'd regain his stroke or batting eye or something. He stayed in AAA for about a month and hit .270 or so in AAA. I brought him back up and he raised his avg. for the year slightly to .225. His third year he re-found his batting eye or stroke or whatever and is currently hitting .295. So my answer is, at least in this case, having him spend a little time his 2nd year in AAA didn't seem to help or hurt.

09-03-2003, 07:00 PM	#4
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 934	I have had a number of hitters with great potential ratings with so-so actual ratings he seem to hit a wall at AAA. I call them up for a year without much if any rating improvement, send them back to AAA the next season and watch their ratings explode while in AAA this time. Doesn't work every time but it does often enough to make it a strategy I use regularly. I have had guys with 4-2 avg-Hr go to 6-9 in one year. Doesn't seem to work as well for pitchers.

09-04-2003, 12:36 PM	#6
Dave Hansen Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 345	I trade 'em. Or a least 80% of the time. A player that is in a bad sophomore slump, by mid year I shop around and try to find a good up and coming player. Look for a guy who is performing well and better than the previous year. I'll check to see how much player development he has under gone. If his numbers are up for the year and so is his development I'll go for the trade. Most cases works out okay. I keep my eye on the player I traded away for the rest of the year. Batting 4 for 6 with this approach after a two year trade evalution review. As a Card's fan, would have traded Rick Ankiel for a average/good SP that is so desperately needed today in the rotation. On the other hand I would hang on to JD Drew.