Vladdy on the Move

JerseyPride · 07-29-2003, 10:35 PM

In a report today on espn.com The Yankees are reportedly interested in acquiring Vladimir Guerrero from the Expos.

Do you think they'll get him?

I'm still looking for the exact link, when I do get it I will post it.

holyroller · 07-29-2003, 10:38 PM

Did you make this one up to?

matskralc · 07-29-2003, 10:40 PM

I've seemingly heard that rumor for years now...

From an article written by Peter Gammons yesterday:

"The Yankees would love to talk about Vladimir Guerrero, but New York's front office doesn't think it could happen, or that the commissioner's office would ever allow it."

I don't think they'll get him.

streetballer67 · 07-29-2003, 10:41 PM

LMAO!

I remember the old "Kobe to the Knicks" thread.

JerseyPride · 07-29-2003, 10:42 PM

Thanks for the link matskralc. Holyroller, did I mkake it up? Theres the link, go click on it and look for yourself.

draven085 · 07-29-2003, 10:50 PM

Keep dreaming. Vlad isn't going anywhere.

In other news, the Yankees have expressed interest in signing Dennis Eckersley to set up for Rivera.

Dwolfson20 · 07-29-2003, 10:53 PM

If this happens, I will personally drive to Tusso's house and give him a big kiss.

bsbll_n_mn · 07-29-2003, 10:53 PM

this just in,

Yankees trade for Jason Varitek to start at catcher
Yankees trade for Troy Glaus to start at 3B
George said "this isn't it - more to come

Jordan · 07-29-2003, 11:18 PM

I would just be really pissed if they got him....

I have nothin against them, but come on.....Thats how many players that make at least 10 Million bucks in one season, Roger(last season, tho), Jeter...####

ThisGuy666 · 07-30-2003, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by JerseyPride
Thanks for the link matskralc. Holyroller, did I mkake it up? Theres the link, go click on it and look for yourself.

Technically, you didn't make it up, but Gammons always makes up wild trade rumors in his columns...

Either way, it ain't happening.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 07-30-2003, 04:04 AM

Well, Gammons didn't exactly make it up, but he could have just as easily said, "The Angels would like to pick up Guerrero and Pujols for a couple of minor leaguers to be named later, but it's doubtful that such a deal would ever happen."

I'm sure the Yankees would love to get Vlad, but the chances of this happening are slim and none, and slim just left town.

ctorg · 07-30-2003, 09:43 AM

It would just be typical if the Yankees got him, though in this case I don't think they will.

Highlander · 07-30-2003, 10:01 AM

Any big name players who people think are going to leave their current teams are always rumored to be going to the Yankees. When in reality, they don't usually end up there (starting pitchers may be an exception). They tend to spend most of their money resigning their own players and on signing foreign players.

I laugh when I see that comment from Pedro Martinez about the Yankees trying to buy the whole league. When you compare the current rosters of the Yankees and the Red Sox.....who has really bought more of the league? Including foreign players, the Yankees have 9 players that they originally signed (Pettitte, Rivera, Soriano, Jeter, Hitchcock, Posada, Matsui, Williams, Johnson). The Red Sox, if I counted correctly, have a total of 2 (Nomar and Trot). Every other player on the Red Sox was acquired either through a trade or "bought" as a free agent. Yet, all Boston fans do is complain every time the Yankees make a deal for a player. How do they think their team was created?? The Yankees obviously spend the most money of everyone. However, they spend a lot of it trying to keep their original players with them as long as possible. Something many other teams don't do.....

draven085 · 07-30-2003, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Highlander
The Yankees obviously spend the most money of everyone. However, they spend a lot of it trying to keep their original players with them as long as possible. Something many other teams can't do.....

There. Fixed it for ya.

sporr · 07-30-2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by draven085
There. Fixed it for ya.

They could if they didn't want to keep more money for themselves. George isn't afraid to invest in his team, other owners apparently are.

Long_Long_Name · 07-30-2003, 10:35 AM

You scared the hell out of me with that thread subject.

TotalEnd98 · 07-30-2003, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by sporr
They could if they didn't want to keep more money for themselves. George isn't afraid to invest in his team, other owners apparently are.

And there's the thing.

People, if you want to complain about something, don't complain about Steinbrenner spending too much money. You can't spend too much money if you're committed to winning. It's not Steinbrenner's fault that MLB doesn't provide an even playing field. As long as the rules stay the way they are, Steinbrenner is not only allowed to, he has an obligation to spend as much as he can in order to make his team a winner. This is part of what comes with being a team owner: giving the team the money they need in order to compete. Don't complain about this. Complain about asshats like Pohlad who take the team's profits, and put more into their pockets than they give back to the team.

draven085 · 07-30-2003, 11:40 AM

People do complain about cheap owners who nickel and dime their teams. But the reality of the situation is that not every team has the metro NY area to drawn on for fan support, merchandising, TV deals, etc. Its the best market in baseball and it gives the Yanks and Mets an inherent advantage over other teams. MLB really ought to stick another team in NY and we might start to see a little more parity.

Long_Long_Name · 07-30-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by draven085
MLB really ought to stick another team in NY and we might start to see a little more parity.

Wouldn't that actually make the problem even worse? I see where you're getting at, but sticking anothe team in there would not really disadvantage the Mets or Yankees in my opinion, just give more of a chance to another team to benefit from that huge market.

TotalEnd98 · 07-30-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by draven085
...the reality of the situation is that not every team has the metro NY area to drawn on for fan support, merchandising, TV deals, etc. Its the best market in baseball and it gives the Yanks and Mets an inherent advantage over other teams.

...which is not something that can be blamed on Steinbrenner. He is using the resources he has to the best of his ability in order to improve his team. The New York Advantage he has in this regard is something you can hate MLB's policies for, certainly, but it's also one thing that simply can't be stuck on Steinbrenner.

If the Boss were to say "You know, the rules give me an advantage here, and I don't really think it's fair, so I'm not going to spend like I can," he would be failing in his obligation to his team.

One can try to make MLB change the rules, but one just cannot attack Steinbrenner for spending what he can in order to turn his team into contenders.

07-29-2003, 10:35 PM	#1
JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	Vladdy on the Move In a report today on espn.com The Yankees are reportedly interested in acquiring Vladimir Guerrero from the Expos. Do you think they'll get him? I'm still looking for the exact link, when I do get it I will post it. __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

07-29-2003, 10:38 PM	#2
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JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	Thanks for the link matskralc. Holyroller, did I mkake it up? Theres the link, go click on it and look for yourself. __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

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07-29-2003, 10:40 PM	#3
matskralc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,076	I've seemingly heard that rumor for years now... From an article written by Peter Gammons yesterday: "The Yankees would love to talk about Vladimir Guerrero, but New York's front office doesn't think it could happen, or that the commissioner's office would ever allow it." I don't think they'll get him.

07-29-2003, 10:50 PM	#6
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	Keep dreaming. Vlad isn't going anywhere. In other news, the Yankees have expressed interest in signing Dennis Eckersley to set up for Rivera.

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Jordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 2,015	I would just be really pissed if they got him.... I have nothin against them, but come on.....Thats how many players that make at least 10 Million bucks in one season, Roger(last season, tho), Jeter...####

07-30-2003, 04:04 AM	#11
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Well, Gammons didn't exactly make it up, but he could have just as easily said, "The Angels would like to pick up Guerrero and Pujols for a couple of minor leaguers to be named later, but it's doubtful that such a deal would ever happen." I'm sure the Yankees would love to get Vlad, but the chances of this happening are slim and none, and slim just left town. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

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07-30-2003, 10:01 AM	#13
Highlander All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,021	Any big name players who people think are going to leave their current teams are always rumored to be going to the Yankees. When in reality, they don't usually end up there (starting pitchers may be an exception). They tend to spend most of their money resigning their own players and on signing foreign players. I laugh when I see that comment from Pedro Martinez about the Yankees trying to buy the whole league. When you compare the current rosters of the Yankees and the Red Sox.....who has really bought more of the league? Including foreign players, the Yankees have 9 players that they originally signed (Pettitte, Rivera, Soriano, Jeter, Hitchcock, Posada, Matsui, Williams, Johnson). The Red Sox, if I counted correctly, have a total of 2 (Nomar and Trot). Every other player on the Red Sox was acquired either through a trade or "bought" as a free agent. Yet, all Boston fans do is complain every time the Yankees make a deal for a player. How do they think their team was created?? The Yankees obviously spend the most money of everyone. However, they spend a lot of it trying to keep their original players with them as long as possible. Something many other teams don't do..... __________________ "The baseball mania has run its course. It has no future as a professional endeavor." — Cincinnati Gazette editorial, 1879

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07-30-2003, 11:40 AM	#18
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	People do complain about cheap owners who nickel and dime their teams. But the reality of the situation is that not every team has the metro NY area to drawn on for fan support, merchandising, TV deals, etc. Its the best market in baseball and it gives the Yanks and Mets an inherent advantage over other teams. MLB really ought to stick another team in NY and we might start to see a little more parity.