League Idea-Careers Shortened

scprideandms · 08-19-2003, 05:39 PM

Had this brilliant (well maybe not) thought for a new league today, made up completely of players who had career shortened by injuries, etc. Not sure if there will be enough players but figured could go with 6 teams so would need enough to fill them out, say minimum 150 players....

But where to find out?

Ones that immediately come to mind are Tony C., Mark Fydrych, Chapman (the guy who got beaned and died).

Any ideas/thughts/links appreciated

Springtime_for_Hunter · 08-19-2003, 07:59 PM

Obvious ones: Koufax, Darryl Kile, Smokey Joe Wood (injury caused him to go from great pitcher to bad outfielder), Thurman Munson, Kirby Puckett.

I'll post again if if I think of some more.

bsbll_n_mn · 08-19-2003, 09:57 PM

i had that idea, in a way and i started with Puckett, but just didn't last

- i killed it after corrupt files

i just played the normal historical season in 1984 and watched puckett goooo

jaxmagicman · 08-19-2003, 11:37 PM

Tim Crews, Joe Jackson, Roberto Clemte (though it really wasn't too short), Steve Olin, Steve Bechler, Mike Darr, (two prospects killed recently, Garret Baxter and Mark Hilde), Eddie Cicotte and Claude "Lefty" Williams;Buck Weaver, Arnold "Chick" Gandil, Fred McMullin, and Charles "Swede" Risberg; and Oscar "Happy" Felsch. When I get to work tomorrow, I can tell you more. Some of the people died early and some were kicked out for gambling.

jaxmagicman · 08-19-2003, 11:38 PM

Jose Canseco

toanstrom · 08-20-2003, 12:03 AM

Bo Jackson, Seth Gresinger, Nick Maddux

marc · 08-20-2003, 01:59 AM

missin a big one.....Roy Campanella

toanstrom · 08-20-2003, 02:10 AM

Charlie "king kong" Keller

marc · 08-20-2003, 02:15 AM

just remembered another one.....OF Lenny Dykstra, nagging back took atleast 5 years off his career. I'll make sure to post if I think of anymore.

toanstrom · 08-20-2003, 03:32 AM

Joe Hauser...i think

Also if your looking at the Buck Weaver's of the world whoose careers were cut short for other reasons dont forget, Luke Easter, Satchel Paige, Monte Irvin, Jackie Robinson, Bobby Estallela Sr., because of ignorance and Ted Williams etc. because of war.

Another injury, Albert Belle. (about the same time as puckett in his career)

Springtime_for_Hunter · 08-20-2003, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by toanstrom

Also if your looking at the Buck Weaver's of the world whoose careers were cut short for other reasons dont forget, Luke Easter, Satchel Paige, Monte Irvin, Jackie Robinson, Bobby Estallela Sr., because of ignorance and Ted Williams etc. because of war.

If you have a working method of importing players whose careers were cut short at the beginning, I'd love to hear it. Importing their first year and editing the age down doesn't work too well, in my experience, and I haven't been able to come up with any other ideas.

marc · 08-20-2003, 06:13 AM

SP tony Saunders.....dont know if your going for just superstars or anyone at all but i figure u will need anyone u can get if your trying to fill up 6 teams with just these players.

scprideandms · 08-20-2003, 09:29 AM

Prob gonna use Ankits Career Avg DB, after adding Steve Howe, Gooden and Strawberry now have 40 players..

kepp em coming

bsbll_n_mn · 08-20-2003, 11:41 AM

i just had an idea from this, but i think would be tough to do a full career for them :/

a tottally different idea, i got from this

scprideandms · 08-20-2003, 11:42 AM

what is it?

jaxmagicman · 08-20-2003, 12:33 PM

Other Players Banished from Baseball for Gambling and Drugs

scprideandms · 08-20-2003, 01:09 PM

Thanks jax, now have 58 players

lacrymology · 08-20-2003, 03:00 PM

How about players that weren't allowed to have full careers in the majors... For example; negro league players.

-m

scprideandms · 08-20-2003, 03:34 PM

will probably add some of them to fill out teams if I can find my link to d/l the db

Matt from TN · 08-20-2003, 03:36 PM

sorry if I repeat any...

Mickey Mantle (knees)... Ray Fosse (all-star collision w/ Rose), although I'm not sure if his career was shortened as much as vastly diminished... Tom Browning (arm)... Dave Dravecky (horrible arm injury)... Tom Esasky (vertigo)

not sure, but did Chris Sabo hang it up due to injury?

There's a ton from the WWII era, a la Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, and many, many others

08-19-2003, 05:39 PM	#1
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	League Idea-Careers Shortened Had this brilliant (well maybe not) thought for a new league today, made up completely of players who had career shortened by injuries, etc. Not sure if there will be enough players but figured could go with 6 teams so would need enough to fill them out, say minimum 150 players.... But where to find out? Ones that immediately come to mind are Tony C., Mark Fydrych, Chapman (the guy who got beaned and died). Any ideas/thughts/links appreciated __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

08-19-2003, 07:59 PM	#2
Springtime_for_Hunter All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 846	Obvious ones: Koufax, Darryl Kile, Smokey Joe Wood (injury caused him to go from great pitcher to bad outfielder), Thurman Munson, Kirby Puckett. I'll post again if if I think of some more. __________________ "Only the utterly impossible, the inexpressibly fantastic, can ever be plausible again" Red Smith, New York Herald-Tribune, October 4, 1951

08-19-2003, 11:37 PM	#4
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Tim Crews, Joe Jackson, Roberto Clemte (though it really wasn't too short), Steve Olin, Steve Bechler, Mike Darr, (two prospects killed recently, Garret Baxter and Mark Hilde), Eddie Cicotte and Claude "Lefty" Williams;Buck Weaver, Arnold "Chick" Gandil, Fred McMullin, and Charles "Swede" Risberg; and Oscar "Happy" Felsch. When I get to work tomorrow, I can tell you more. Some of the people died early and some were kicked out for gambling. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-19-2003, 11:38 PM	#5
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Jose Canseco __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-20-2003, 01:59 AM	#7
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	missin a big one.....Roy Campanella __________________

08-19-2003, 09:57 PM	#3
bsbll_n_mn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 593	i had that idea, in a way and i started with Puckett, but just didn't last - i killed it after corrupt files i just played the normal historical season in 1984 and watched puckett goooo

08-20-2003, 12:03 AM	#6
toanstrom Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 277	Bo Jackson, Seth Gresinger, Nick Maddux

08-20-2003, 02:10 AM	#8
toanstrom Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 277	Charlie "king kong" Keller Last edited by toanstrom; 08-20-2003 at 03:32 AM.

08-20-2003, 02:15 AM	#9
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	just remembered another one.....OF Lenny Dykstra, nagging back took atleast 5 years off his career. I'll make sure to post if I think of anymore. __________________

08-20-2003, 03:32 AM	#10
toanstrom Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 277	Joe Hauser...i think Also if your looking at the Buck Weaver's of the world whoose careers were cut short for other reasons dont forget, Luke Easter, Satchel Paige, Monte Irvin, Jackie Robinson, Bobby Estallela Sr., because of ignorance and Ted Williams etc. because of war. Another injury, Albert Belle. (about the same time as puckett in his career)

08-20-2003, 06:13 AM	#12
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	SP tony Saunders.....dont know if your going for just superstars or anyone at all but i figure u will need anyone u can get if your trying to fill up 6 teams with just these players. __________________

08-20-2003, 09:29 AM	#13
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Prob gonna use Ankits Career Avg DB, after adding Steve Howe, Gooden and Strawberry now have 40 players.. kepp em coming __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

08-20-2003, 11:41 AM	#14
bsbll_n_mn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 593	i just had an idea from this, but i think would be tough to do a full career for them :/ a tottally different idea, i got from this

08-20-2003, 11:42 AM	#15
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	what is it? __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

08-20-2003, 12:33 PM	#16
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Other Players Banished from Baseball for Gambling and Drugs __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-20-2003, 01:09 PM	#17
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Thanks jax, now have 58 players __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

08-20-2003, 03:00 PM	#18
lacrymology Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2	How about players that weren't allowed to have full careers in the majors... For example; negro league players. -m

08-20-2003, 03:34 PM	#19
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	will probably add some of them to fill out teams if I can find my link to d/l the db __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

08-20-2003, 03:36 PM	#20
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	sorry if I repeat any... Mickey Mantle (knees)... Ray Fosse (all-star collision w/ Rose), although I'm not sure if his career was shortened as much as vastly diminished... Tom Browning (arm)... Dave Dravecky (horrible arm injury)... Tom Esasky (vertigo) not sure, but did Chris Sabo hang it up due to injury? There's a ton from the WWII era, a la Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, and many, many others __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise