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Join Date: May 2019
Location: San Francisco
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Star Free Agent hitters not receiving any AI interest
Hi, in preparation for my fictional league, I've been running simulations that often result in free agent hitters not receiving appropriate levels of interest from the AI. For example, I am attaching the player profiles of two 3-5 WAR hitters that had failed to be signed by opening day in one of my sims. These players have been consistent positive contributors across their careers and I can see no reason why not a single team had shown any interest in signing them. Neither have any injury concerns and both are competent defensively.
I frequently see no listed teams in the "Interested" section of the Offseason Center for hitters, but the opposite is true for pitchers. I see mediocre pitchers (2.5 stars) being signed for similar AAVs as the top hitter free agents (4-5 stars) and all non-injured starters are always signed by the end of the offseason. Maybe the devs could look into whether there needs to be some balancing in AI front office pursuits of free agent pitchers vs. hitters? For reference, I have made the PCMs favor pitchers over hitters to try and combat the issue in hopes that the AI would value the rarer talented hitters over the abundant mediocre pitchers. Specifically, the league these players are from have batter PCMs (.95,1,1,1,.95) and pitcher PCMs (1.2,1.18,1.18,1). Anything else I could try to see if AI behavior changes?
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Minors (Triple A)
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I feel like some hitters’ contract demands are often initially way too high so teams don’t bother and sign other players, at which point no one has the budget for the free agents with high demands so they sit their rotting in free agency until they’re eventually signed for super cheap.
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All Star Starter
Join Date: Jun 2016
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As a counterpoint, I think I have had over 30 off-seasons in OOTP and have never seen this issue. But I make a lot of offers early on, maybe that catches the attention of the AI GMs to make their offers.
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The only times I see this issue is when teams don't have enough money so I just tweak the finances to make sure at least some teams have the room to make bigger offers.
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What are those players actual contract demands. I bet the first one wants 15-20 m. for 8-10 years. I'll pass on that. 1 year at 8m maybe.
The second player is probably the same and while he is younger, again, the cost is to high to the payroll to risk it. I'm sure that is what the AI is seeing when looking at the players. Last edited by malor; 07-01-2026 at 05:04 PM. |
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Minors (Double A)
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Tony Compian (34 LF, 3.5 stars) wants a 1 yr/$12M deal (before I negotiated at all). He even declined his player option at the end of last season to hit FA. Beau Stoltenow (29 2B, 3 stars) wants a minor league contract with a major league option worth $750k (before I negotiated at all). Freddie Freeman and Bo Bichette didn't have any issues garnering interest in FA in real life and those would be a couple of the closest recent comparisons I can think of for these guys- perennial 3-5 WAR players with solid defense and not too old. What team wouldn't choose to add these guys for these rock bottom prices???
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In season, teams have no need for them as they already filled the position. Signing these player will probably mean they will need to remove someone from the 40 man roster and possibly lose them via waivers. Thus paying twice for the same position So they don't bother.
I know I would not. What you see as bad moves, I see the AI doing a great job managing their budgets by not signing/releasing players. Which was a bug in earlier version leading to teams spending 10's of millions on waived contract/cuts. Last edited by malor; 07-01-2026 at 07:17 PM. |
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Minors (Double A)
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Maybe it has something to do with too much pitching talent sucking up payroll across the league? I have DH enabled for both subleagues so I would hope that might incentivize the AI to value hitters more.
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All Star Starter
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Do any of them have QOs. That could be a reason.in real life those players can go deep into ST before signing.
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Join Date: Jan 2024
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In order to combat this I have been going in and modifying the typical salary expectation for each tier of player gradually. I feel like this tracks with real life as you will see guys who missed out on the big money sign smaller, short term deals than they had anticipated/hoped as the off season goes on in order to get them playing. A one year, prove it deal as they say.
I get that it doesn't fix the AI logic that you're getting at, but it at least gets them signed. |
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