Coaches, Scouts and Online Leagues

bulldog55 · 06-11-2003, 10:37 PM

I found a problem with using scouts in online leagues. When you draft, fantasy or amateur, you can view the players as any team, meaning you can select the team with the best scout and use that to choose your players.

Seems to largely defeat the purposes of having a scout. Is there a way this could be fixed?

And speaking of coaches and online leagues, can we get an "Export Offers" feature for coach hiring sessions?

It seems OOTP was not designed to support coaches and scouts in online play, which I think is unfortunate.

holyroller · 06-11-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by bulldog55
I found a problem with using scouts in online leagues. When you draft, fantasy or amateur, you can view the players as any team, meaning you can select the team with the best scout and use that to choose your players.

There is an even bigger problem with them. When you look at other team's players you are not looking at them through your scouts eyes, like you should be, you are looking at them through the eyes of the the scout employed by the team you are looking at. I had a suggestion to fix it in thisthread but I don't know if it is a good idea or even feasable.

bulldog55 · 06-12-2003, 01:48 AM

Also a good point. Why wasn't OOTP designed to use coaches and scouts in online leagues?

ChipperJones10 · 06-12-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by bulldog55
I found a problem with using scouts in online leagues. When you draft, fantasy or amateur, you can view the players as any team, meaning you can select the team with the best scout and use that to choose your players.

I hadn't thought of that yet, thanks for the heads up

P.S. Scouts might be irrelevant but the coaches still have the same function and do it just like in offline leagues.

holyroller · 06-12-2003, 02:07 AM

Most leagues have coaches/scouts turned off which I think sucks eggs. The PWBL uses them, but the scouting issue had always been a bur in the saddle. We decided (stealing the idea from another league who I can't think of at the moment) to switch all scouts to brilliant but it is a poor workaround.

HolyCow98 · 06-12-2003, 02:09 AM

Yeah, I wish you could have coaches on, and scouts off. One idea I thought of that might help is that when a Internet league is loaded, you have to input a password. Once a password is inputted the game knows which team the player is and will let you only view through that teams scouts eyes

holyroller · 06-12-2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by HolyCow98
Yeah, I wish you could have coaches on, and scouts off. One idea I thought of that might help is that when a Internet league is loaded, you have to input a password. Once a password is inputted the game knows which team the player is and will let you only view through that teams scouts eyes

We are thinking very much along the same lines. Check out the link I posted above

HolyCow98 · 06-12-2003, 02:33 AM

Yep, your post pretty much sums up what I would love to see...

bulldog55 · 06-12-2003, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by HolyCow98
Yeah, I wish you could have coaches on, and scouts off. One idea I thought of that might help is that when a Internet league is loaded, you have to input a password. Once a password is inputted the game knows which team the player is and will let you only view through that teams scouts eyes

I was thinking of a fix exactly along those lines. I mean, you can even read everyone else's email in an online league.

I'd really like to see the development team focus a lot of their attention on online leagues. Having recently made the switch from solo to online play, I know I have personally brought up a number of issues that need work, and I know there are many more beyond the ones I have mentioned.

Hopefully OOTP6 will provide a much better online experience.

HolyCow98 · 06-12-2003, 12:25 PM

Yeah, i agree. I was a long-time solo player, OOTP5 being the first that I tried the online aspects. Anyway, if nothing else gets look at, as far as online stuff goes, things that make your team YOUR team, and not just the team number you export to the FTP from.

You should only have access to your team specific stuff....and most of all the Scout... A sign in at the start up would be fine for me.... anything to tighten up the security some.

holyroller · 06-13-2003, 01:20 AM

Utterly (no pun intended HolyCow) shameless bump. I assume it has been duly noted by the proper authorities, but I want to be extra special sure.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-13-2003, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by holyroller
Utterly (no pun intended HolyCow) shameless bump. I assume it has been duly noted by the proper authorities, but I want to be extra special sure.

OMG.... never mind what I said in the other thread about Hollis being on the board. That's the worst pun ever......

holyroller · 06-13-2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Eckstein 4 Prez
OMG.... never mind what I said in the other thread about Hollis being on the board. That's the worst pun ever......

Shouldn't you have said "Hollis is off the board"?

HolyCow98 · 06-13-2003, 02:27 AM

LOL....

06-11-2003, 10:37 PM	#1
bulldog55 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California's Canada Warnings: 17 Posts: 2,481	Coaches, Scouts and Online Leagues I found a problem with using scouts in online leagues. When you draft, fantasy or amateur, you can view the players as any team, meaning you can select the team with the best scout and use that to choose your players. Seems to largely defeat the purposes of having a scout. Is there a way this could be fixed? And speaking of coaches and online leagues, can we get an "Export Offers" feature for coach hiring sessions? It seems OOTP was not designed to support coaches and scouts in online play, which I think is unfortunate. __________________ Commissioner, Trans-Continental Base Ball Association Owner/GM, Los Angeles Electrics (TCBA), Beaverton Rangers (OTBL), Portland Mavericks (Union League), and Los Angeles Superbas (Century League) Being smart, don't always make you popular.

06-12-2003, 01:48 AM	#3
bulldog55 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California's Canada Warnings: 17 Posts: 2,481	Also a good point. Why wasn't OOTP designed to use coaches and scouts in online leagues? __________________ Commissioner, Trans-Continental Base Ball Association Owner/GM, Los Angeles Electrics (TCBA), Beaverton Rangers (OTBL), Portland Mavericks (Union League), and Los Angeles Superbas (Century League) Being smart, don't always make you popular.

06-12-2003, 02:07 AM	#5
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Most leagues have coaches/scouts turned off which I think sucks eggs. The PWBL uses them, but the scouting issue had always been a bur in the saddle. We decided (stealing the idea from another league who I can't think of at the moment) to switch all scouts to brilliant but it is a poor workaround. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

06-12-2003, 02:09 AM	#6
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yeah, I wish you could have coaches on, and scouts off. One idea I thought of that might help is that when a Internet league is loaded, you have to input a password. Once a password is inputted the game knows which team the player is and will let you only view through that teams scouts eyes __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

06-12-2003, 02:33 AM	#8
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yep, your post pretty much sums up what I would love to see... __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

06-12-2003, 12:25 PM	#10
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yeah, i agree. I was a long-time solo player, OOTP5 being the first that I tried the online aspects. Anyway, if nothing else gets look at, as far as online stuff goes, things that make your team YOUR team, and not just the team number you export to the FTP from. You should only have access to your team specific stuff....and most of all the Scout... A sign in at the start up would be fine for me.... anything to tighten up the security some. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

06-13-2003, 01:20 AM	#11
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Utterly (no pun intended HolyCow) shameless bump. I assume it has been duly noted by the proper authorities, but I want to be extra special sure. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

06-13-2003, 02:27 AM	#14
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	LOL.... __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM