Subleague Expansion

David Watts · 09-10-2025, 11:35 AM

Is it possible to expand a 1 subleague setup into a 2 subleague format without messing up the league history(champions page)?

My current random debut is in year 22. Started out as a 12 team one subleague, no divisions league and has expanded to 16 teams, one subleague, 2 divisions. The league has a northern division and a southern division. I've been towing with making the Southern Division into a separate subleague. This would definitely make future expansion a whole lot easier.

Decided to test this, before just impulsively jumping in. I created a fictional league that mirrored my current setup. I let the league sim for roughly 10 seasons. At this point, I added the second subleague and moved all the teams from the southern division to the new subleague. Right away I noticed a huge problem when I checked the league history page that displays the league champions. The league champions for all the seasons prior to the expansion to 2 subleagues are northern division teams. Even in the years that a southern division team won the championship.

Hoping maybe I'm simply missing a step Would love it if the champions page simply remained in it's historical format, displaying the league champions for all seasons.

snarls200 · 09-15-2025, 09:54 PM

looks like it is an issue if you go from 1 sub league to 2. also can have an issue if one of your champs moved sub leagues when you uped it to 2 subleagues.

though doesn't seem to be an issue if you move teams between subleagues if you started wirh 2 sub leagues

mytreds · 09-16-2025, 12:06 AM

I still play 21 and this happens, so it’s an issue for several iterations of the game.

David Watts · 09-16-2025, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

I still play 21 and this happens, so it’s an issue for several iterations of the game.

Yes, it's been an issue for as long as I can remember. This was the first I checked in several versions if the problem still exists. It clearly does. Ugh!

snepp · 09-16-2025, 10:06 PM

This is why every fictional league I create always starts with two sub-leagues, even when I don't really want to.

09-10-2025, 11:35 AM	#1
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,159 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Subleague Expansion Is it possible to expand a 1 subleague setup into a 2 subleague format without messing up the league history(champions page)? My current random debut is in year 22. Started out as a 12 team one subleague, no divisions league and has expanded to 16 teams, one subleague, 2 divisions. The league has a northern division and a southern division. I've been towing with making the Southern Division into a separate subleague. This would definitely make future expansion a whole lot easier. Decided to test this, before just impulsively jumping in. I created a fictional league that mirrored my current setup. I let the league sim for roughly 10 seasons. At this point, I added the second subleague and moved all the teams from the southern division to the new subleague. Right away I noticed a huge problem when I checked the league history page that displays the league champions. The league champions for all the seasons prior to the expansion to 2 subleagues are northern division teams. Even in the years that a southern division team won the championship. Hoping maybe I'm simply missing a step Would love it if the champions page simply remained in it's historical format, displaying the league champions for all seasons.

09-16-2025, 12:06 AM	#3
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,183	I still play 21 and this happens, so it’s an issue for several iterations of the game. __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

09-15-2025, 09:54 PM	#2
snarls200 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 520	looks like it is an issue if you go from 1 sub league to 2. also can have an issue if one of your champs moved sub leagues when you uped it to 2 subleagues. though doesn't seem to be an issue if you move teams between subleagues if you started wirh 2 sub leagues

09-16-2025, 10:06 PM	#5
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,829	This is why every fictional league I create always starts with two sub-leagues, even when I don't really want to.