St. Louis Browns players missing from league/team history

Fonzie13 · 08-08-2025, 04:11 PM

(cross-posting this from the "historical database issues" thread)

Started a standard start-of-2025 game ... and if you look at the history of the Baltimore Orioles, and if you click on any season prior to 1954 (i.e., when they were still the St. Louis Browns), the history index page is completely empty, instead of listing the players ...

... and, weirder still, if you scroll down on that page to the listings of the Team Batting and Team Pitching leaders, it shows "Yorger Bautista" for every category.

(FYI, Yorger seems to be a 17-year-old LF for the present-day Mariners DSL team.)

This is true for any Browns/Orioles season prior to 1954. They're all empty.

And ... Browns players are also missing from season leaderboards.

Example: in 1922, George Sisler led the AL with a .420 average, and Ken Williams led the AL with 39 home runs and 155 RBI.

However, if you call up the league history, and click on AL for 1922 ... it is showing Ty Cobb as the league AVG leader at .401, Tilly Walker as the HR leader at 37, and Bobby Veach as the RBI leader with 126. Sisler and Williams are nowhere to be found on the leaderboard, even though they are in the game and will be found if you search for them.

POSSIBLE CLUE AS TO THE ISSUE? ... in past iterations of OOTP, the Browns were abbreviated as "SLA" ... but here their abbreviation is "SL3" ... is that part of the problem?

Fonzie13 · 08-08-2025, 08:45 PM

Did a little more tinkering here ... and if a historical game is started (even for 2024), the Browns' data does show. And ... the abbreviation for the Browns is SLA. So now I'm very definitely wondering if the "SL3" flag is what is throwing things off?

Fonzie13 · 08-08-2025, 09:09 PM

One more observation ... the problem exists for Orioles/Browns seasons 1875-1881 ...

... then, starting in 1882, clicking on a season in the Orioles' history will produce the Browns with all stats and players ...

... until 1912.

Then, starting in 1913, clicking on a season produces the empty page ... and it stays that way until 1954.

08-08-2025, 04:11 PM	#1
Fonzie13 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 154	St. Louis Browns players missing from league/team history (cross-posting this from the "historical database issues" thread) Started a standard start-of-2025 game ... and if you look at the history of the Baltimore Orioles, and if you click on any season prior to 1954 (i.e., when they were still the St. Louis Browns), the history index page is completely empty, instead of listing the players ... ... and, weirder still, if you scroll down on that page to the listings of the Team Batting and Team Pitching leaders, it shows "Yorger Bautista" for every category. (FYI, Yorger seems to be a 17-year-old LF for the present-day Mariners DSL team.) This is true for any Browns/Orioles season prior to 1954. They're all empty. And ... Browns players are also missing from season leaderboards. Example: in 1922, George Sisler led the AL with a .420 average, and Ken Williams led the AL with 39 home runs and 155 RBI. However, if you call up the league history, and click on AL for 1922 ... it is showing Ty Cobb as the league AVG leader at .401, Tilly Walker as the HR leader at 37, and Bobby Veach as the RBI leader with 126. Sisler and Williams are nowhere to be found on the leaderboard, even though they are in the game and will be found if you search for them. POSSIBLE CLUE AS TO THE ISSUE? ... in past iterations of OOTP, the Browns were abbreviated as "SLA" ... but here their abbreviation is "SL3" ... is that part of the problem? Attached Images Last edited by Fonzie13; 08-08-2025 at 05:32 PM.

08-08-2025, 08:45 PM	#2
Fonzie13 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 154	Did a little more tinkering here ... and if a historical game is started (even for 2024), the Browns' data does show. And ... the abbreviation for the Browns is SLA. So now I'm very definitely wondering if the "SL3" flag is what is throwing things off?

08-08-2025, 09:09 PM	#3
Fonzie13 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 154	One more observation ... the problem exists for Orioles/Browns seasons 1875-1881 ... ... then, starting in 1882, clicking on a season in the Orioles' history will produce the Browns with all stats and players ... ... until 1912. Then, starting in 1913, clicking on a season produces the empty page ... and it stays that way until 1954.