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Old 05-21-2024, 10:11 PM   #1
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Daily Lineups

Does anyone use Daily Lineups? What is the advantage/disadvantage? I play out all my games and check in on my minors daily.
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Old 05-24-2024, 10:15 AM   #2
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A broad question. The main purpose for me of daily lineups is to prevent the AI from freelancing too much. Unfortunately, you can only set them a week ahead, so it's laborious to keep up with a season. (You can set depth charts to dictate player use.). I typically set up lineups for my minor league teams, to make sure the prospects get playing time and at the proper position. I also set rotations, to make sure the SP I want to develop get regular innings.

One caution would be the three related settings that ask about: [1] subs (player fatigue), [2] changing the default lineup if the opposing SP turns out to be a different hand, and [3] whether the AI can depart from the rotation if the scheduled SP is tired. The last [3] should not happen, if you have durable (Stamina) SP and a proper rotation. Nevertheless, you need to allow this, in case your SP comes up tired, at least to prevent injury. I honestly never understood the impact of the "change default lineup" setting [2], so I don't use that. And I reluctantly allow the AI to sub for tired players [1], after a disastrous season where regulars, for some reason, got to 0% and (because I did not toggle subs on) kept playing at a low level, until they got injured. Even durable players need that occasional day off. The AI seems to manage this okay.

If you're like me, you will scratch your head at who the AI is starting, and how the lineups are set up. If you're also a bit of a micromanager (like me), you will want to change these lineups, just to make a team competitive. I frequently will go in and change lineups (and set up Daily Lineups) after playing a team, and realizing they could do better (after our series is done). Kind of a house rule.

You can in setup choose between sabremetric and traditional lineups. I have not done enough testing to predict how this would influence the AI. Sabremetric seems to rely (way too) heavily on OBP, disregarding speed, disregarding slugging, so you will get some Kyle Schwarber leading off scenarios, if that is your cup of tea. Not mine.
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Old 05-24-2024, 11:16 AM   #3
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If I'm playing as a manager either on a minor league team or a major I absolutely use daily lineups. In the minors the AI is constantly moving players around and set lineups get broken often. But I also like to set up matchups to get wins. As a major league manager I want to ensure I'm playing the right players at the right time in the right positions. And also matchups.


Plus, if i'm the manager I want to manage.


No if I'm playing GM then so, I'll delegate to the AI manager. Unless I don't like what he's doing.
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Old 05-25-2024, 06:38 PM   #4
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Unfortunately, you can only set them a week ahead, so it's laborious to keep up with a season.
This used to be the case but now there is an arrow on the first and last day and you can scroll back and forth and set up as far as two months out in the current season. This was changed a few years ago.

Daily lineups can also be very useful for online league participants.
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This used to be the case but now there is an arrow on the first and last day and you can scroll back and forth and set up as far as two months out in the current season. This was changed a few years ago.
True, and I forgot. I stand corrected. Of course, after a week out, the Daily Lineups window does not know who the opposing SP will be. And, you need to insert the lineups day by day, and game by game. There's no option in the Daily Lineup menu to set one lineup for RHP and one for LHP for the rest of the season.

One thing I have wondered is whether using the depth charts function on the lineup screen would accomplish the same thing, without setting Daily Lineups. Would the AI respect those choices? For example, I will frequently have a sub playing "every three games" and give my catchers days off that way, for example. It seems as though the AI honors that choice. But I'm uncertain whether the Depth Chart lineups are followed.
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Old 02-24-2025, 07:42 AM   #6
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A broad question. The main purpose for me of daily lineups is to prevent the AI from freelancing too much. Unfortunately, you can only set them a week ahead, so it's laborious to keep up with a season. (You can set depth charts to dictate player use.). I typically set up lineups for my minor league teams, to make sure the prospects get playing time and at the proper position. I also set rotations, to make sure the SP I want to develop get regular innings.

One caution would be the three related settings that ask about: [1] subs (player fatigue), [2] changing the default lineup if the opposing SP turns out to be a different hand, and [3] whether the AI can depart from the rotation if the scheduled SP is tired. The last [3] should not happen, if you have durable (Stamina) SP and a proper rotation. Nevertheless, you need to allow this, in case your SP comes up tired, at least to prevent injury. I honestly never understood the impact of the "change default lineup" setting [2], so I don't use that. And I reluctantly allow the AI to sub for tired players [1], after a disastrous season where regulars, for some reason, got to 0% and (because I did not toggle subs on) kept playing at a low level, until they got injured. Even durable players need that occasional day off. The AI seems to manage this okay.

If you're like me, you will scratch your head at who the AI is starting, and how the lineups are set up. If you're also a bit of a micromanager (like me), you will want to change these lineups, just to make a team competitive. I frequently will go in and change lineups (and set up Daily Lineups) after playing a team, and realizing they could do better (after our series is done). Kind of a house rule.

You can in setup choose between sabremetric and traditional lineups. I have not done enough testing to predict how this would influence the AI. Sabremetric seems to rely (way too) heavily on OBP, disregarding speed, disregarding slugging, so you will get some Kyle Schwarber leading off scenarios, if that is your cup of tea. Not mine.
Are you certain that bench player when they reach… fatigue percentage works with daily linups?? I just had 2 players , 1 drop below 45% of a threshold and the other one sitting at 27% below. both of them are in fielders. I get that if the threshold is not met before the game they could play the game and they get fatigued during that game but dropping 45% in one game doesn't seem likely so I'm not sure if it's working properly.

The one who dropped the most I had set to bench at 70% because he's a durable player he's now sitting at 25%. I liked this feature because then I can use my daily lineup and insert the best possible lineup without having to guess what their fatigue level was and they will automatically get benched if I over use them but it doesn't seem to be working or it's not working as I would have anticipated. Yes I do have allowed starting of subs checked.

I also have one star player who is wrecked and I want to set him at 100% so anytime he drops below 100% he'll get benched so he'll be able to play 3 or 4 games in a row and Then get benched Without Me having to guess but I'm Afraid it will bench him 100% of the time. not sure exactly how that works so I have him set to 99

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