Historical rookies imported with very high current ratings in draft

Jor97 · 02-01-2025, 10:12 PM

When importing historical players for the draft some are imported with very high current ratings, i.e. Rick Reuschel is currently being imported for the 1970 draft with a 70/80 rating. Looking in the editor, his overall ratings also seem to be higher than his potential ratings (see screenshot). I have run into this during multiple historical seasons. Is there any way to fix this without manually editing current ratings but keeping the potential ratings?

LansdowneSt · 02-01-2025, 10:16 PM

To clarify, did he come in organically to the amateur draft class or, by imported, do you mean you manually imported him directly into a draft class?

LansdowneSt · 02-01-2025, 10:17 PM

Also, is scouting on or off?

Jor97 · 02-01-2025, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

To clarify, did he come in organically to the amateur draft class or, by imported, do you mean you manually imported him directly into a draft class?

He came automatically in the 1970 draft class, scouting is on and accuracy is set to normal.

twins_34 · 02-02-2025, 08:52 AM

Yeah Rick Reuschel was a rookie in 1970 in the minors and didn't debut in the majors until 1972. So yeah it is a little strange he would be fully developed (well not fully developed but, you know what I mean) in 1970. I can see where the OP is coming from.

Matt Arnold · 02-02-2025, 09:49 AM

If using a 5 year recalc, it's possible it's basically pulling in his 1972, and if it finds enough innings there, it might be ignoring his minors numbers when it rates him. We do ignore some minors numbers at times to make sure we don't over-react to a minor league rehab assignment.

Jor97 · 02-02-2025, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If using a 5 year recalc, it's possible it's basically pulling in his 1972, and if it finds enough innings there, it might be ignoring his minors numbers when it rates him. We do ignore some minors numbers at times to make sure we don't over-react to a minor league rehab assignment.

Recalc is off, see the attached screenshot for the settings.

Matt Arnold · 02-03-2025, 06:07 AM

The 5 year "recalculation base" is how new player ratings are determined. But yes, it is likely that the game is over-valuing his rookie season. As mentioned, there are checks in place to put more credence to higher level minors stats.

You could either increase the "Adjust pitchers with fewer than X innings" setting, and it would likely take more of the ratings into consideration. You could also switch to using a 3 year (or one year) recalculation base, for example, and it would start his ratings lower off initially.

02-01-2025, 10:12 PM	#1
Jor97 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 30	Historical rookies imported with very high current ratings in draft When importing historical players for the draft some are imported with very high current ratings, i.e. Rick Reuschel is currently being imported for the 1970 draft with a 70/80 rating. Looking in the editor, his overall ratings also seem to be higher than his potential ratings (see screenshot). I have run into this during multiple historical seasons. Is there any way to fix this without manually editing current ratings but keeping the potential ratings? Attached Images

02-01-2025, 10:16 PM	#2
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,482	To clarify, did he come in organically to the amateur draft class or, by imported, do you mean you manually imported him directly into a draft class? __________________ Complete Universe Facegen Pack 2.0 (mine included) https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi...k_2.0.zip/file Just my Facegen Pack: https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi..._Pack.zip/file

02-01-2025, 10:17 PM	#3
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,482	Also, is scouting on or off? __________________ Complete Universe Facegen Pack 2.0 (mine included) https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi...k_2.0.zip/file Just my Facegen Pack: https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi..._Pack.zip/file

02-02-2025, 08:52 AM	#5
twins_34 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa Posts: 2,099	Yeah Rick Reuschel was a rookie in 1970 in the minors and didn't debut in the majors until 1972. So yeah it is a little strange he would be fully developed (well not fully developed but, you know what I mean) in 1970. I can see where the OP is coming from. __________________ Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thedoctor7949/videos Development Lab update video: https://youtu.be/4k9mMomKE94?si=xrVz8ZzZFncPNWr-

02-02-2025, 09:49 AM	#6
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,842	If using a 5 year recalc, it's possible it's basically pulling in his 1972, and if it finds enough innings there, it might be ignoring his minors numbers when it rates him. We do ignore some minors numbers at times to make sure we don't over-react to a minor league rehab assignment. Last edited by Matt Arnold; 02-02-2025 at 09:53 AM.

02-03-2025, 06:07 AM	#8
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,842	The 5 year "recalculation base" is how new player ratings are determined. But yes, it is likely that the game is over-valuing his rookie season. As mentioned, there are checks in place to put more credence to higher level minors stats. You could either increase the "Adjust pitchers with fewer than X innings" setting, and it would likely take more of the ratings into consideration. You could also switch to using a 3 year (or one year) recalculation base, for example, and it would start his ratings lower off initially.