Draft Class Includes a Whole Pile of Fictional DHs

[Otrex]

Hello folks,

It's been many years since I posted here! I recently returned to playing this game with the OOTP25 edition.

I set up a 16 team fictional league starting in 1901, but based upon the statistics of the 1993 baseball season (locked to that year). I am using historical rookies from "No Minimum" - 1985 and have it set to random debut.

Presently I have it set to a 15 round amateur draft with enough players drawn to cover 20 rounds. I am 60 seasons in and, from the outset, have noticed it only brings in enough historical players for 9 rounds and the rest are just fictional DHs that I end up manually deleting.

Anyone able to help me understand what I need to do to ensure I'm receiving only real historical rookies in the draft (random debut)?

Presently I have "Enable Amateur Draft" checked alongside "Disable automatic creation of Free Agents and Fictional Draft Class".

I am happy to confirm any other settings which some may suspect are the problem.

[Otrex]

Anyone able to assist with this? I cannot seem to locate reason for the issue.

[LansdowneSt]

Do the fictional players have, if you go under Player Editor, Historical Minors IDs? And you said that there are still actual MLB'ers coming in? I ask because those are big draft classes and after 60 years + the Inaugural class, you might be getting through everyone at that pace. 20 rounds of 16 picks over 60 years is 19,200 players. There are 23,370 MLB players in BBR and just over 2000 of those are NeL'ers not in the OOTP MLB database and 255 more of those are from last year.

[LansdowneSt]

Actually, in addition to Historical Minors IDs to they have regular BBR IDs? And do any of those end in -41?

[Otrex]

Thank you for your reply. I manually delete all the fictional players each year and so am unable to check your request until the next offseason (which is imminent). However, if it helps at all, it's been doing the same bug since the 2nd draft year. 9 rounds of real historical players and a whole bunch of fictional DHs no matter how many additional rounds I select.

That means a couple of things, I suppose: It seems to not be related to running out of players (at least not at the outset) and I have been using up real players at a significantly slower speed as I'm only getting 9 rounds worth for the entire 60 years.

[Otrex]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Actually, in addition to Historical Minors IDs to they have regular BBR IDs? And do any of those end in -41?

Okay, just reached the offseason and looking at one of the random fictional DHs and yes, they have a Historical ID that ends in 41.

While the real players have an actual date for Historical Year, these DHs have "-1" listed for them.

They also do have Historical Minor IDs.

[Otrex]

Originally Posted by Otrex

Okay, just reached the offseason and looking at one of the random fictional DHs and yes, they have a Historical ID that ends in 41.

While the real players have an actual date for Historical Year, these DHs have "-1" listed for them.

They also do have Historical Minor IDs.

Oh! Could it be that I selected "No Minimum" for the historical year and, as such, it's drawing in the -1 Historical Year players (i.e. Fictional Players)? Perhaps I should set it to 1876 manually?

[LansdowneSt]

So, the -41 guys are players from the old Spritze alternative historical database. They got mixed in to the main database. I’m in the process of deleting their -41 IDs (to stop them from being in the MLB database pull) but it’s behind my fixing-the-birthplaces & birthdates database project. But I have found them and am working through them. Generally, they cause no harm because while they exist in the Master.csv with Spritze invented -41 (and some other numbers) IDs, they have no stat lines tied to them (their stats are in the MiLB db). So they are useless and never play. As I said, mostly harmless from a gameplay perspective.

A question since you started in 1901 - did you play from 1901-1946 with the color barrier off? If not, you may have used up more players than you think as Barry Bonds could have come in for your 1912 draft but you never saw him. He went hidden, undrafted, and used up. That would mean you used more players than you thought.

Adding a lower end league bracket might help since their year fields are blank and they have no stat lines tied to any year. So, try that as a band-aid to bar the Spritze guys.