AI international complex promotions

[KingDavis]

This may have been the case last year as well and I'm simply noticing it more (meaning not a bug), but I'm seeing way more 16/17 year olds being promoted from the IC "because they are ready to face the competition" than I ever did last year with AI promotion/demotion on.

These are guys that have like 25-30s across the board when looking at the DSL ratings. They are not at the level where they should be facing other DSL guys yet. Is anyone else noticing that in their games? I'll try to grab a screenshot next time I see it, but just think of a guy thats maybe 30/80 in his best stat being promoted.

[KingDavis]

Originally Posted by KingDavis

This may have been the case last year as well and I'm simply noticing it more (meaning not a bug), but I'm seeing way more 16/17 year olds being promoted from the IC "because they are ready to face the competition" than I ever did last year with AI promotion/demotion on.

These are guys that have like 25-30s across the board when looking at the DSL ratings. They are not at the level where they should be facing other DSL guys yet. Is anyone else noticing that in their games? I'll try to grab a screenshot next time I see it, but just think of a guy thats maybe 30/80 in his best stat being promoted.

Following up on this. All of these guys are set to lock to team, and all look like the player that is highlighted (relative to the DSL 100% scouting). They are not ready for the minors, especially the 16/17 year olds. Is this an error, or is the promotion criteria just updated this year?

[Lukas Berger]

In real life teams really never leave guys not playing for more than the first year after they sign.

The DSL is pretty sink or swim, and if you look at the real-life stats there, you'll see a lot of players put up pretty wretched stat lines, but they still do play.

So I'm not sure if we changed things here in comparison to previous years, but I think what you're describing seems more or less how this 'should' work.

[KingDavis]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

In real life teams really never leave guys not playing for more than the first year after they sign.

The DSL is pretty sink or swim, and if you look at the real-life stats there, you'll see a lot of players put up pretty wretched stat lines, but they still do play.

So I'm not sure if we changed things here in comparison to previous years, but I think what you're describing seems more or less how this 'should' work.

That all makes sense, and if its working as intended then its all good. But it seems like these guys don't have much of a chance to swim; everyone with 20-30s at the level seem to always fail to me. And some of these guys were signed in the previous IFA class, so like 4 months ago.

But is there a way to stop the AI IC promotion, or is that different than other minor league promotions and demotions because there's the age limit? These guys have disable promotion and demotion on and it didn't seem to do much.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by KingDavis

everyone with 20-30s at the level seem to always fail to me. And some of these guys were signed in the previous IFA class, so like 4 months ago.

This is working as intended if it's what you're seeing.

I believe something like 70% of real-life DSL players never make it out of the DSL.

Basically only 30% are any sort of prospects at all, and the other 70% are just there to make up the numbers to give the 30% teams to play on.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by KingDavis

But is there a way to stop the AI IC promotion, or is that different than other minor league promotions and demotions because there's the age limit? These guys have disable promotion and demotion on and it didn't seem to do much.

I'm not sure about this off-hand, would have to check into it a little more.

[jg2022]

Thanks guys. So do top prospects struggling in their first 1-2 DSL years destroy their development?

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by jg2022

Thanks guys. So do top prospects struggling in their first 1-2 DSL years destroy their development?

Generally development doesn't follow performance. So it shouldn't. Now, you may not see these guys develop anyway, but it's likely not because of their performance having been bad, just because we tend to have pretty big development hits on all really young players to stop them getting too good.

[jg2022]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Generally development doesn't follow performance. So it shouldn't. Now, you may not see these guys develop anyway, but it's likely not because of their performance having been bad, just because we tend to have pretty big development hits on all really young players to stop them getting too good.

Thanks as always!

[KingDavis]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Generally development doesn't follow performance. So it shouldn't. Now, you may not see these guys develop anyway, but it's likely not because of their performance having been bad, just because we tend to have pretty big development hits on all really young players to stop them getting too good.

I guess thats what I was getting at. I wasn't saying it was wrong that the vast majority of 25-30s guys being terrible, that of course makes sense. A guy playing way above the level of talent he had should fail almost every time. I just thought that if it had an impact on their development that I as the player should have more control to prevent that from happening. Thanks!