Trade Issues/Difficulty

[crazy8oooo]

In my current league, it was announced that Seattle was shopping Matty Beniers. I offered my current 1st round pick along with a 3.5 star prospect and Seattle declined, stating something like, they won't trade away an elite player without receiving back something significant. Fair enough.

I then offered an extra 1st to see if they'd bite and received the same response.

Out of curiosity, I added a third 1st round pick, along with the 3.5 star player and again received the same response. At that point, I moved along,,,

The next day, on my feed, it was announced that Vancouver and Seattle made a trade. I expected to see a trade of Beniers for Petterson or Hughes, with what Seattle was turning down from me, but was shocked to see that all Vancouver gave up was a single 2nd round pick in return for Beniers.

How in the world does Vancouver get him for a 2nd when I couldn't even get him for 3 1sts and a 3.5 star prospect? Seems like something is majorly flawed there. Am I missing something here or do the non-human run teams just get better deals?

[tomkmb]

Originally Posted by crazy8oooo

In my current league, it was announced that Seattle was shopping Matty Beniers. I offered my current 1st round pick along with a 3.5 star prospect and Seattle declined, stating something like, they won't trade away an elite player without receiving back something significant. Fair enough.

I then offered an extra 1st to see if they'd bite and received the same response.

Out of curiosity, I added a third 1st round pick, along with the 3.5 star player and again received the same response. At that point, I moved along,,,

The next day, on my feed, it was announced that Vancouver and Seattle made a trade. I expected to see a trade of Beniers for Petterson or Hughes, with what Seattle was turning down from me, but was shocked to see that all Vancouver gave up was a single 2nd round pick in return for Beniers.

How in the world does Vancouver get him for a 2nd when I couldn't even get him for 3 1sts and a 3.5 star prospect? Seems like something is majorly flawed there. Am I missing something here or do the non-human run teams just get better deals?

Yeah there's been a few of these this year, The Cilantro Guy kept seeing Luke Hughes traded between teams for a 2nd round pick in his YT Canadiens rebuild series. Also in the official stream Bedard got traded for a 2nd too I believe, it could have been a first but either way, it was an issue and the devs said so. I'm assuming they're looking into it based on what happened in the official stream but that's just my two cents.

EDIT - if you've got save game exampls/screenshots could be worth sharing it in the bug section in case they need more examples to trace the game logic pre and post transaction.

[Savoie45]

Originally Posted by crazy8oooo

In my current league, it was announced that Seattle was shopping Matty Beniers. I offered my current 1st round pick along with a 3.5 star prospect and Seattle declined, stating something like, they won't trade away an elite player without receiving back something significant. Fair enough.

I then offered an extra 1st to see if they'd bite and received the same response.

Out of curiosity, I added a third 1st round pick, along with the 3.5 star player and again received the same response. At that point, I moved along,,,

The next day, on my feed, it was announced that Vancouver and Seattle made a trade. I expected to see a trade of Beniers for Petterson or Hughes, with what Seattle was turning down from me, but was shocked to see that all Vancouver gave up was a single 2nd round pick in return for Beniers.

How in the world does Vancouver get him for a 2nd when I couldn't even get him for 3 1sts and a 3.5 star prospect? Seems like something is majorly flawed there. Am I missing something here or do the non-human run teams just get better deals?

Were you higher in the standings? It could possibly be that Beniers has list of teams he doesn't want to be traded to as well.

[Adam B]

Originally Posted by Savoie45

Were you higher in the standings? It could possibly be that Beniers has list of teams he doesn't want to be traded to as well.

Part of this I believe it tied to an issue we found that will be addressed in an upcoming update.

[victorqc]

So the next one?

[EvvCat]

Just had a similar situation as this in free agency.

Going into 2025-26 Leon Draisaitl is a free agent who started out asking $12MM for 7 years and NMC. Almost a month into the new season he's still unsigned and now asking $8.8MM for 7 years with NMC, so I offer 6 years near his now-reduced demand, but no NMC. Try 2-3 offers and he turns me down. The next day he accepts a 2-year deal for $8.7MM and no NMC with another team.

I got curious, so I didn't save, went back and made him a better offer (2 years @ $9MM, no NMC). He kept demanding 6 years with NMC. I moved on and again, the next day he signed with the other team for 2 years @ $8.7MM with no NMC.

I have the Blues and he signed with Montreal. Maybe he just takes less to play for them, but there's no indication of that and my initial offer was much nearer to what he was demanding, while my second offer was straight up better. Feels unlikely.

[Javs]

Trading seems bizarre sometimes. Rebuilding teams trading for veterans or holding onto expiring contracts.

Teams at 50 contracted players but for some reason don't want to just throw in a ECHL player to make the trade work

Multiple issues here for sure

[Anthony5967]

Trading MUST be #1 on things the dev team looks into. It kills the realism. And how can you rebuild if none of your assets return solid pieces or picks? Look at what Pens got for Guentzel. You offer Guentzel around and get back a 3rd round pick. Needs to improve...badly.

[Javs]

Originally Posted by Anthony5967

Trading MUST be #1 on things the dev team looks into. It kills the realism. And how can you rebuild if none of your assets return solid pieces or picks? Look at what Pens got for Guentzel. You offer Guentzel around and get back a 3rd round pick. Needs to improve...badly.

That, and waivers... having realistic waiver exemption rules would help

Exemptions

1. A player does not need to pass through waivers if the player has not been on the NHL active roster for a cumulative 30 days since last clearing waivers, OR has not played in 10 or more NHL games. CBA Reference 13.2(b) (Despite the CBA reference saying 30 days AND 10 games, the rule is actually 30 days OR 10 games)
2. A player whom consented to a Conditioning Loan can be Loaned to a minor league club for a maximum of 14 days without passing through waivers. CBA Reference 13.8
3. A player whom was previously on long-term injured reserve (LTIR), may be loaned to a minor league club for a maximum of 6 days or 3 games for the purpose of determining if the player is fit to play. This player does not need to pass through waivers. CBA Reference 13.9

[Afroduck]

Yes please an over haul on trading is desperately needed.


I just had the stupidest thing happen to me in historical at the trade deadline I attempt to make a trade get in it to the point where it finally says they will most likely accept offer so I offer it and they refuse so I click on make it work then it pops up we would consider this trade without you adding anything so I offer again and it pops up we won't give up a top player for nothing What the Heck and at this stage screw it thankfully there is a force trade

[gord]

Originally Posted by Javs

Trading seems bizarre sometimes. Rebuilding teams trading for veterans or holding onto expiring contracts.

Teams at 50 contracted players but for some reason don't want to just throw in a ECHL player to make the trade work

Multiple issues here for sure

Had a similar issue last night (on FHM 9) when trying to work out a trade. Two of my players for two No. 2s - they accept but they have 49/50 spots full. I throw in a 0.5/1.0 player of theirs to make the numbers work and they refuse unless a 4.0/5.0 player of mine is included. Frustrating.