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Old 01-07-2024, 06:30 PM   #1
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Devs: Two Requests for PT25

Two requests for PT25:

1) I brought this one up before: I'd really like to see a 3rd tournament category - Weekly Season Tournament Teams

This would address a lot of complaints I see over and over from people that want to run a full season with an all (fill in the blank - gold/silver, etc) team. And there could be a variety of time periods and caps and card limits to different tournaments.

With this new format we would have three slots for regular tournaments, two slots for perfect draft tournaments (both as they are now), and a new single slot for the Season Tournaments.

Since these could be set to only 32-40 teams for each one, but be a full week, the rewards could something like:

TB-Perfect pack for the WS winner, TB-High Diamond pack for the runner up, TB-Gold pack for 3rd-4th, and TB-Silver pack for the 5th-8th, with the final four playoff teams getting 4 regular packs.

I promise this would be something everyone was a fan of.

2.) Much easier request to add into the game:

I'd love to see the "Trophies" tab under "History and Achievements" expanded to include all the awards you win - not just the WS trophies, which is kind of pointless, since they show up right next to your team name.

At least the major ones: MVPs, Cy Youngs, Reliever of the Year Awards, etc. It'd be cool to look at that if these were included; as it stands, I never click on that tab.
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Old 01-08-2024, 10:23 PM   #2
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Another request is to add more context to the career stats that pop up while the game file is loading. "Mike Trout's career stats" followed by the numbers doesn't mean much without the context of which team, which league, and which PT seasons. There are also multiple cards for many players, so knowing which Mike Trout card is also important.
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Old 01-10-2024, 01:24 PM   #3
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two requests for pt25:

1) i brought this one up before: I'd really like to see a 3rd tournament category - weekly season tournament teams

this would address a lot of complaints i see over and over from people that want to run a full season with an all (fill in the blank - gold/silver, etc) team. And there could be a variety of time periods and caps and card limits to different tournaments.

With this new format we would have three slots for regular tournaments, two slots for perfect draft tournaments (both as they are now), and a new single slot for the season tournaments.

Since these could be set to only 32-40 teams for each one, but be a full week, the rewards could something like:

Tb-perfect pack for the ws winner, tb-high diamond pack for the runner up, tb-gold pack for 3rd-4th, and tb-silver pack for the 5th-8th, with the final four playoff teams getting 4 regular packs.

I promise this would be something everyone was a fan of.

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Old 01-10-2024, 07:28 PM   #4
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Tournaments run every 10 minutes around the clock, so a 162-game "season" is completed in just over 1 day. So, I assume y'all prefer the league schedule, so such a "tournament" lasts an actual week and provide plenty of time for swapping players in and out?

Whether it's fill-in-the-blank gold/silver/whatever, the meta will become known in a week or two and all the rosters will merge towards the boringly identical. All the data generated would also destroy the quick and daily tournaments because the meta becomes known so quickly.

Let me fill in the blank with this: 2 perfect, 3 diamond, 4 gold, 5 silver, 6 bronze and 6 iron. I think the "meta" would be really tough to figure out, in this case and there would be continuity week to week, perhaps even a pyramid structure like league, called Imperfect League.

I think the rewards could be 1) achievement points split 50-50 between this and league or 2) no points earned as achieved, but you get the larger earnings of the two at the end of the week in a lump sum.
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:00 PM   #5
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I'm not sure

That the metas would be identical. And if so, the quick and daily tournaments could add some quirky roster restrictions.



With in-season moves allowed over the course of the week, there would be scope for much strategizing.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:19 AM   #6
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Whether it's fill-in-the-blank gold/silver/whatever, the meta will become known in a week or two and all the rosters will merge towards the boringly identical. All the data generated would also destroy the quick and daily tournaments because the meta becomes known so quickly.

Let me fill in the blank with this: 2 perfect, 3 diamond, 4 gold, 5 silver, 6 bronze and 6 iron. I think the "meta" would be really tough to figure out, in this case and there would be continuity week to week, perhaps even a pyramid structure like league, called Imperfect League.

I think the rewards could be 1) achievement points split 50-50 between this and league or 2) no points earned as achieved, but you get the larger earnings of the two at the end of the week in a lump sum.
If you read my entire suggestion, I'm requesting these tournaments to be like the weekly and daily tourneys - a variety of modes. Cap tournaments, era tournaments, all gold/silver/iron w/ and w/o caps, etc - so plenty of options for people to choose from just like with regular tourneys - one of those options could be like the one you suggested.

No need to limit it so much, though, especially when there are a lot of people who have long requested exactly what I've proposed - full seasons for a specific card level.

And yes, the whole thing is based around these being an entire week long with the schedules running the same as the league schedules.

I'd assume these would be like all the other tourneys in that there would be no transactions allowed during the tourney, and I would not expect any achievement points. Just the end tourney reward packs for those who win/place.

I have no idea why these would destroy the quick and daily tournaments - that doesn't make sense to me. If you just run the data on a few weeks of a daily tourney (or less), you'd get the same amount as a full season in a weekly. And let's be real; not many people are actually running the numbers to figure out the meta. I certainly never have, I just look through the cards and use the best ones.
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Old 01-11-2024, 10:23 AM   #7
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It doesn't have to be rocket science. As Punished F2P said, few of us F2Pers approach PT as a Laboratory Assignment. We just want to play baseball, and the single-pyramid-goal of reaching your peak and then watching it dissolve into mediocrity as the year progresses simply isn't enough to stay interested beyond 4-6 months. Winning weekly rewards from a chosen level would, however, provide continued enjoyment.

For a number of months now, I show up simply to open packs, and I sometimes land a usable card to add to my active roster - but any hope of changing my overall Fate is no longer an option.

If this kind of tournament was available, I can see starting off at Bronze level, and moving up to maybe a Diamond level roster by this time of the year.

That said, I doubt anything will really happen because what we are asking for is a more interesting scenario for F2P players which might increase customer numbers but won't bring in any additional income

UNLESS... Everyone started out in Bronze level weekly tournaments and paid a "fee" to advance to the next level. If that fee wasn't excessive, they could generate additional income as the F2Pers moved their tournament rosters up the tree. One idea anyway.
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Old 01-11-2024, 11:34 AM   #8
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That said, I doubt anything will really happen because what we are asking for is a more interesting scenario for F2P players which might increase customer numbers but won't bring in any additional income
Honestly, I don't see any logical reason for them not to do this (though, it's possible there are logistical ones I am unaware of).

It seems like a natural progression - and each year the tournament experience has been upgraded and improved, IMO. That seems to be a priority for the team.

Week-long Season Tournaments feels like a step that is coming at some point, and this would appeal greatly to P2P as well as F2P - it just helps maintain interest among all users with a new format that people have a been asking for.

And remember, you'd only get to play in one per week in the way I've recommended (maybe a 2nd one with PT+, which would add another reason to be on PT+) so it's not like anyone can go and 'dominate' these - and probably the better players would enter in more open style and cap style era tournaments or diamond+ tournaments, while more casual players would enter in the bronze/iron/silver tourneys, etc. It works for everyone.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:00 PM   #9
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I think they should do whatever they can to increase activity throughout the year and they should try this. However, my choice of league would be one that uses a perfect draft kind of team that plays weeklong and allows for substitutions. Something different, you know?
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Old 01-11-2024, 04:20 PM   #10
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I think they should do whatever they can to increase activity throughout the year and they should try this. However, my choice of league would be one that uses a perfect draft kind of team that plays weeklong and allows for substitutions. Something different, you know?
I agree; if they had an option like that, I would try it out, too. Of course, really depends on my roster. That's the thing about metas; particularly earlier in the year, it's difficult as F2P to actually have the meta in anything higher than silver.

If I didn't have the top 2 perfect cards and top diamond cards, I may wait until later to do that style of tournament when I did. While earlier in the year, I might play a silver cap season tournament or something like that.
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Old 01-13-2024, 09:17 AM   #11
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I would also say to bring back the better rewards for quick tournaments, so that their is better participation. It has taken almost 3 hours to fill up my 9 tournament slots, where it used to take a couple of minutes. I get that players are playing dailies or weeklies, and that the season is coming to an end so less people are playing. However, maybe it would keep people's interest if they thought they could win something instead of having to pay for it.
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Old 01-15-2024, 01:58 PM   #12
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They have increased rewards for dailies and weeklies, so that I think those balance the rewards for quicks. Save yourself some time and play those and while you may not win as many packs, the packs you do win may be of higher value. The best we can hope for in PT25 is they don't cut back.

As far as a suggestion for PT25 rewards: choice packs ought to have the choice of regular packs (if you don't like the choices in the choice pack). So, if you win a high diamond choice pack, and you don't like the choices, you can opt for 3 historical diamond packs instead, which is the current alternate prize for some dailies.
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Old 01-21-2024, 01:54 AM   #13
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I'd love to see an option for teams to compete in a league where you aren't put up against people who pay real money for anything. Also, don't want to have to compete against people who do the "click on Twitch and get my free packs without watching" thing. But alas, I know that won't happen.

I'd also like to see a better distribution of players we know and love vs players nobody knows or cares about who might've had one good season. I mean, why not give me a Brady Anderson 1996 that'll be the best card in the game if you're giving me a Jimmy Collins card that is 10x better than the Ty Cobb? I mean, come on...
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Old 01-22-2024, 10:23 AM   #14
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I'd love to see an option for teams to compete in a league where you aren't put up against people who pay real money for anything. Also, don't want to have to compete against people who do the "click on Twitch and get my free packs without watching" thing. ..
You forgot to exclude people who spend all day spamming quick tournaments.
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You forgot to exclude people who spend all day spamming quick tournaments.
And people who are more efficient at building teams.

Expecting to have a free ride to the top of the heap is simply unrealistic. You can work hard at the game, you can play all the angles, or you can work hard at your business/job/profession and buy your way to the top level.

But you aren't getting there without an investment of some sort. Or did you think there was a guy out there just waiting to give you 10% ownership of Amazon?
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You forgot to exclude people who spend all day spamming quick tournaments.
And people who are more efficient at building teams.

Expecting to have a free ride to the top of the heap is simply unrealistic. You can work hard at the game, you can play all the angles, or you can work hard at your business/job/profession and buy your way to the top level.

But you aren't getting there without an investment of some sort. Or did you think there was a guy out there just waiting to give you 10% ownership of Amazon?
This is one of those moments of "if I do it, I don't mind it. If I don't do it, I don't like people who do" clearly. It's like people telling you about the types of drivers they hate.
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I'd love to see an option for teams to compete in a league where you aren't put up against people who pay real money for anything. Also, don't want to have to compete against people who do the "click on Twitch and get my free packs without watching" thing. But alas, I know that won't happen.

And I would love to lose the DH. I am appalled at the extra inning rules of today. I am livid at virtue signaling away the names of teams over a hundred years old. The wildcard teams are just an extension to everybody gets a trophy; they dilute the playoff field. I could go on and on but to what avail?

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This is one of those moments of "if I do it, I don't mind it. If I don't do it, I don't like people who do" clearly. It's like people telling you about the types of drivers they hate.
Lenny Bruce joke:

When you're out on the highway, there are two kinds of drivers. Everybody driving slower than you is an idiot. Everybody driving faster than you is a maniac.
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Old 01-30-2024, 09:45 PM   #19
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Some suggestions for upgrades or PT25:

1. GO! allows us to tag and then quick-sell cards by page. Can we get this option on the desktop version? It's a lot easier to manage card sales page by page.

2. Expanding on that, can we get an option to offer all tagged cards for a specified price? If I want to sell a batch of Iron cards for, say, 17PP each, I currently have to select every stinking card, type in 17, and then click Submit. Why not allow a batch sale at something other than the quick-sale price? It would probably increase the number of cards being offered rather than quick-sold.

3. Related to card sales, can we get an option to turn off notifications that we've just sold a card, or one that can be tailored to ignore sales below a specified amount? Nothing is more annoying than having your roster or lineup moves interrupted to tell you that you've just sold a live Iron card for 11PP. This also frequently overlays the League Update notification, which is a little more important than fringe card shop sales.
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The more I think about it, it's the last half of the year in PT that's the problem for the non-whales. There's a lot more complexity and time and money required the 2nd 6 months to even stay anywhere near the top.

So what happens is the vast majority of non-whales find themselves bouncing between two levels of the pyramid. In my case it's Bronze and Silver. I get in the Bronze playoffs, get promoted to Silver, and get my butt kicked back down to Bronze. For some it's Gold and Silver, and some others Diamond and Gold - but the pattern is always the same.

Once you reach your level of "incompetence" or "limited resources" you fall into the pattern and game interest goes down the drain. There needs to be something in the game to allow 2/3rds of the players to switch to the second half of the year. Keep us involved - even charge a fee to enter a new phase of competition.
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