Players role

ffp7175 · 05-16-2023, 12:05 AM

Ever since the latest update

Most off all the computer run coaches are setting players roles
to agitator

Has anyone else seen this

2 of 3 lines have agitator roles

JeffR · 05-16-2023, 04:20 AM

Haven't noticed this. Which league are you seeing it in?

ffp7175 · 05-16-2023, 08:48 AM

I am running a historical replay league

started in 1917 , went through season 1922

Did the latest update and was playing the 1923 season
and noticed the following

The Canadians had 3 lines, all the players roles were agitator
except one who was a dangler, i notice similar settings with
other computer run reams

Just wondering if this would effect their stats, say if goal scorer
role was a agitator, would that effect is overall goals or stats

thanks

JeffR · 05-17-2023, 03:57 AM

I just tried a 1917 start, and in 1923-24 I'm seeing a normal selection of roles for all the AI teams (and almost no agitators.) Could you upload your save? I'd like to have a look at what's going on there. It definitely would affect the stats if they're all like that.

ffp7175 · 05-19-2023, 08:00 PM

still dont get it

upgraded to FHM9 Hotfix 9.4.107 from 104, thought
maybe the latest update will help

still get the agitator when i add a gm and set the player roles

very frustrating, did not have this before i updated to 9.4 104

I even started a new game with the same results

ffp7175 · 05-20-2023, 10:45 AM

I uninstall the game and reinstalled and still have the same
issue

When their is a human gm and coach and i hit the al to set the
player roles, still get numerous agitator roles

JeffR · 05-21-2023, 03:38 AM

Something's definitely going wrong with the save; I'm waiting to hear back what the guys found when they took a closer look at it. It's not a general problem with the update; other games I check, including historical ones, are choosing roles normally. I suspect it may have something to do with using the AI in a multiplayer game set up the way this one is, but I don't know for sure yet.

ffp7175 · 05-21-2023, 09:35 AM

i hope they find an answer

i have another league setup the same way and it has no
issue (that league does not have the last update), its
run on a different computer

I updated this league to current update (i love the option
to choose goalies to start)

JeffR · 05-25-2023, 10:06 AM

Finally found the problem: there's an adjustment to the coach's choice of tactical roles based on the coach's physical and offensive preferences (among other things.) You have all of your coaches set to "Very Defensive" and "Very Physical". which would normally be a pretty rare combination, since both are at the extreme ends of the scale (intended for only one or two coaches per league.) That's pushing most of the forwards into a tactical role in the category that only includes agitators and the enforcer-type roles. If you edit the preferences of all the GM/HC you added back to the a more moderate setting, you'll see a more normal selection of tactical roles.

05-16-2023, 12:05 AM	#1
ffp7175 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	Players role Ever since the latest update Most off all the computer run coaches are setting players roles to agitator Has anyone else seen this 2 of 3 lines have agitator roles

05-19-2023, 08:00 PM	#5
ffp7175 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	still dont get it upgraded to FHM9 Hotfix 9.4.107 from 104, thought maybe the latest update will help still get the agitator when i add a gm and set the player roles very frustrating, did not have this before i updated to 9.4 104 I even started a new game with the same results Last edited by ffp7175; 05-19-2023 at 11:54 PM.

05-16-2023, 04:20 AM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,402	Haven't noticed this. Which league are you seeing it in?

05-16-2023, 08:48 AM	#3
ffp7175 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	I am running a historical replay league started in 1917 , went through season 1922 Did the latest update and was playing the 1923 season and noticed the following The Canadians had 3 lines, all the players roles were agitator except one who was a dangler, i notice similar settings with other computer run reams Just wondering if this would effect their stats, say if goal scorer role was a agitator, would that effect is overall goals or stats thanks

05-17-2023, 03:57 AM	#4
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,402	I just tried a 1917 start, and in 1923-24 I'm seeing a normal selection of roles for all the AI teams (and almost no agitators.) Could you upload your save? I'd like to have a look at what's going on there. It definitely would affect the stats if they're all like that.

05-20-2023, 10:45 AM	#6
ffp7175 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	I uninstall the game and reinstalled and still have the same issue When their is a human gm and coach and i hit the al to set the player roles, still get numerous agitator roles

05-21-2023, 03:38 AM	#7
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,402	Something's definitely going wrong with the save; I'm waiting to hear back what the guys found when they took a closer look at it. It's not a general problem with the update; other games I check, including historical ones, are choosing roles normally. I suspect it may have something to do with using the AI in a multiplayer game set up the way this one is, but I don't know for sure yet.

05-21-2023, 09:35 AM	#8
ffp7175 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	i hope they find an answer i have another league setup the same way and it has no issue (that league does not have the last update), its run on a different computer I updated this league to current update (i love the option to choose goalies to start)

05-25-2023, 10:06 AM	#9
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,402	Finally found the problem: there's an adjustment to the coach's choice of tactical roles based on the coach's physical and offensive preferences (among other things.) You have all of your coaches set to "Very Defensive" and "Very Physical". which would normally be a pretty rare combination, since both are at the extreme ends of the scale (intended for only one or two coaches per league.) That's pushing most of the forwards into a tactical role in the category that only includes agitators and the enforcer-type roles. If you edit the preferences of all the GM/HC you added back to the a more moderate setting, you'll see a more normal selection of tactical roles.