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Old 07-18-2023, 08:42 PM   #1
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20_range, you said you would do 3 Islandian Pro Alliance teams' logos for me... you also said you wanted to do the Hartsdale Hellcats, too.

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Here is the first one... please make a Primary Logo (circular, square, badge, banner or otherwise)... include town name and nickname on the Primary... just use town letter for the Secondary Logo... also make a Secondary Logo using the mascot image in a simple and uncomplicated style... simple styles show up better at the 50 x 50 pixel size.
I use the black skin... make sure the logo shows up well on a dark black background.
Do one set in a tradition style for me...1950s to 1980s would be my period... do another set using your own thoughts, colors and creativity... it would be good to see what you come up with... EC will use it if it's better.

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Red (160, 0, 0) is the primary color
Black and White are also used on the primary and secondary logos.

Hartsdale Hellcats

Owner: Pioneer Brewing Company
GM Emeritus: Jud Turchin
GM/Manager: Mark Markis

Hartsdale, with population of about 74,000, is situated on the slopes of the Appian Mountains of Northern Tycobbia. It is a blue-collar, working class town, functional and old-fashioned in architecture. Primary industries are coal and iron ore mining, timber, glassware and beer. The vital Appian River begins in the Appian Mountains near North Hills, travels most of the country from north to south, past Hartsdale to the capital city, La Claire, then finally culminates at Bay St. Clair, a seaport town on the west central coast. The river provides an inexpensive source of transportation and is crucial to Hartsdale’s and Tycobbia’s economies.

Hartsdale is also the home of the Hellcats baseball team of the Islandian Pro Alliance. They are in the Tycobbian Union North Division and play at Pioneer Park. The Pioneer Brewing Company owns the club and is the maker of Tycobbia’s favorite brew, Pioneer Premium Beer. The brewery can be seen just beyond the center and right field fences of Pioneer Park. In fact, the brick walls of the factory form part of the right field bleachers. Company bigwigs can watch the ballgame from their offices.

Hellcats fans take their baseball very seriously and are serious students of the game. It’s baseball, beer and hot dogs in the hearts of the fans -- and the last two are a very distant second. When they go to a game, their eyes stay glued to the action on the field. They are hardcore Hellcats fans, too, and give no breaks or quarter to the opposing team or their fans. Very few visiting fans have the courage to display their loyalties very much in front of the rough and rowdy Hellcats. They get some very hard stares or worse, if they do. The Hartsdalians are tough and demanding on the Hellcats players, too. "We calls them as we sees them". At the traditional seventh-inning stretch each adult is gifted with a small miniature sample of Pioneer Beer and it is used to toast their cherished baseball team as they sing a few bars of “99 bottles of beer on the wall”, followed by “Take me out to the ballgame”. And you can get the best burgers and dogs in Tycobbia, grilled to perfection on the concessions concourse... Beers, burgers and baseball is what you get at Pioneer Park.

The Hellcats are corporately owned. Zim Donner, a 50-year veteran in amateur and professional baseball, was the first Hellcat skipper in the early days of the Islandian Pro Alliance. He was a fine up-and-coming shortstop until he suffered a couple of beanballs that turned him into just a journeyman infielder. But he is one fine manager and baseball teacher. When he was the manager Donner was known to charge the mound occasionally. The fiery Hellcats fans love him. Donner moved upstairs as GM in the late 2020s and made Hall of Fame shortstop Jud Turchin the skipper. He was a seven-time All-Star in addition to being a Gold Glove fielder, who swung a big bat. In his 21 seasons with Hartsdale (2002-2022) Turchin batted .304 with over 300 homers, 1600 RBIs and 1800 runs scored. He played in 2957 games, collected 3360 hits and was inducted into the IPA Hall of Fame in 2036.

The working GM and skipper is Mark Markis. He took over from Turchin in 2062. Markis has a unique background. High School and college ball were his only experience and he was just a mediocre or so-so outfielder at best. He never made it to the Islandian Pro Alliance, but Markis is an analytical genius. Turchin hired him to help him evaluate ballplayers. Markis so impressed Turchin over the years that he was given the reins to the ball club.

Pioneer Park (1954)
Capacity: 10,000

Dimensions:
LF Line 322
LF 345
LCF 375
CF 415
RCT 375
RF 345
RF Line 322
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:43 PM   #2
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Here are the current set of logos, jerseys and caps I am using.

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Old 07-18-2023, 09:07 PM   #3
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I'm going to be trying to do simpler logos with this project (trying!), so I think I will move away from my original Harlem/Hartsdale Hellcats idea, with a full splayed out tiger and apartment buildings. Plus a tiger should be orange.

I think for the brewery theme I will try out a growler.
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Old 07-18-2023, 09:13 PM   #4
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I'm going to be trying to do simpler logos with this project (trying!), so I think I will move away from my original Harlem/Hartsdale Hellcats idea, with a full splayed out tiger and apartment buildings. Plus a tiger should be orange.

I think for the brewery theme I will try out a growler.
Just do a traditional set for me... also do one set using your ideas, colors and choice of mascots... a tiger could be a Hellcat.

Really excited to see what you come up with.

Thanks for doing this project for me... take your time... no rush... do each team at your convenience.

Sorry, I apologize for trying to micro manage... I'm a nice control freak, I think.

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Old 07-18-2023, 09:16 PM   #5
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jg2977 also has an Islandian Pro Alliance league.
He will probably use some of your work, too.

He is more apt to like your fancy, creative work.
jg2977 is a lot younger and more avant-garde than EC.

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Old 07-19-2023, 08:43 PM   #6
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Hartsdale Hellcats growler ideas

Here are some growler ideas, based on the fact that the team is owned by a beer company. They all have a white border that isn't showing up on the message board
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I was hoping to get a Zim Donner "ugly as boiled sin" prototype done today too, but unfortunately my kid, who has not been sleeping well, has again woken up :|
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:53 PM   #9
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Very well done, 20_range.

You did well in spite of not having much to work with.

I like the Tiger image... is there any way to put the Tiger on the third Primary Logo without splitting up HARTSDALE on it?.
You need to use a font that is solid... the HARTS and DALE font doesn't show up well on game screens

The Secondary Logos are fine... could you put the Tiger image on a Bottle for a third Secondary Logo?

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Old 07-20-2023, 12:14 AM   #10
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btw I've wanted to do a growler logo since I saw this one by yuazda
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:28 AM   #11
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Hartsdale Hellcats

Well I tried to do some that were more complex, but as you could have told me, simpler is better
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Boiled Sin

with that said, I did also make this I know everyone has seen this quote a thousand times while the game loads
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:53 AM   #13
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with that said, I did also make this I know everyone has seen this quote a thousand times while the game loads
Precious, 20_range!... yep, it's precious.

Not sure everyone understands why you did this using Don Zimmer.
All of the managers' names in my Islandian Pro Alliance early days were created by taking a historic major league player or manager and flipping the first names and last names around.
Thus Don Zimmer became Zim Donner... Zim Donner was known in the IPA for charging pitchers who hit his batters... some people caught what I was doing in my Dynasty Forum thread... some didn't.

All of the names are not flipped flopped, but most of them are.

Here is the first set of flip-flopped names.

Ruthlandian Union North Division
Ancona Red Elephants - Owner: Golden Hill Insurance - GM: Nick Yakis - Manager: Manny Mickens
Far Mountain Redhawks - Owner: Johann Becker - GM/Manager:Alex Groveland
Glasco Athletics - Owner: Great Aberdeen Granite Company - GM/Manager: McDuffie Hughes
Kilkenny Cats - Owner: Smithwick's Brewing Company - GM/Manager: Kieran McKenna
LaGrange Sports - Owner/GM/Manager: Foxy Jimison
Ranford Bulls - Owner: Barnes Oil Company - GM: O'Neal Buckman - Manager: Page Satcher
Taranto Tars - Owner: Papa Giovanni's Pizzas - GM/Manager: Tommaso Lazzorda
Valmara Vipers - Owner: Viper Offshore Services - GM/Manager: J. Jackson Samuel

Ruthlandian Union South Division
Belair Beach Sunbirds - Owner: Jorge Trujillo - GM/Manager: Marty Pedroza
Claxton Diamonds - Owner: DeBeers Mining Company - GM/Manager: Stacy Engel
Crystal Lake Crushers - Owner: Casino Resorts, Inc. - GM/Manager: Herman "Baby" George
Grand City Cybercats - Owner: Windows Technologies, Gates Billingham CEO - GM/Manager: Torry Joseph
San Dimas Rancheros - Owner: Esai Montanez - GM/Manager: Paco Banderos
St. John Crusaders - Owner: The Brothers of St. John the Baptist - GM: Barry Edwards - Manager: Dickie Billings
Valka Blackhawks - Owner: Cybertel, Andrus Valk CEO - GM/Manager: Jaan Kurus
Waleska Westerners - Owner: Ewing Oil, Jock Ewing, President - GM/Manager: McGraw Johnson

Ruthlandian Union East Divison
Beechwood Bobcats - Owner: Bob Catlin - GM/Manager: Bret George
Belle Plaine Musketeers - Owner/GM/Manager: Boo Ladrieux
Cold Creek Catamounts - Owner: Cold Creek Catamounts Baseball Club - GM/Manager: T. Kelly Holmes
Eastshore Elegants - Owner: Clark and Vivien Butler, Tara Plantation Enterprises - GM/Manager: Killer Brewster
Elnora All-Stars - Owner: George Costanza - GM/Manager: Zoggy White
Marston Nine - Owner: Doubleday Sporting Goods - GM/Manager: Johnny Walters
Sugar Valley Rattlers - Owner/GM: Manny Earl - Manager: Gibson Bobkins
Wynnamac Sundowners - Owner: Granger Co-Operative Association - GM/Manager: Matt Donnelly

Ruthlandian Union West Division
Colfax Blasters - Owner: Precious Metal Corporation - GM/Manager: Clem Rogers
Forest City Lumberjacks - Owner/GM/Manager: Rob Jackson
Fort Benton Defenders - Owner: General Paddy George - GM/Manager: Robbie Brooks
Middlefield Roosters - Owner: Middlefield Merchants Association - GM/Manager: Smitty Michaels
Rocky Rapids Snappers - Owner: Express Freight and Shipping Company - GM/Manager: Ryan Noland
Sligo Ramblers - Owner: Myron Dalrymple - GM/Manager: Eddie Keys
Stoner Stars - Owner: Nonnac Textiles - GM: Beanie Billington - Manager: Willie Dickens
Volusia Vigilantes - Owner: Tierra Wools Consolidated - GM: Juan-Carlos de la Hoya - Manager: Alfonso Feliz

Tycobbian Union North Division
Blue Lake Blue Sox - Owners: Tink Joseph, Ev Johnson, Chance Franklin - GM/Manager: Cobb Tyson
Fairfax Frogs - Owner: Frog Fashions - GM/Manager: Harry Buckley
Hartsdale Hellcats - Owner: Pioneer Brewing Company - GM/Manager: Zim Donner
Luxora Zorros - Owner: De la Vega Foundation - GM/Manager: Alejandro Rodrigo
Mahaska Haymakers - Owner/GM: Rickey Branch - Asst GM: Rick Branch, Jr. - Manager: Rusty Tanussa
North Hills Hawks - Owner: Hawk Steel Company - GM/Manager: Hub Carlson
Oxford Red Caps - Owner: Tyco-Tech - GM: Amanda Effings - Manager: Campy Roy
White River Rascals - Owner: Tycalco - GM/Manager: John Randison

Tycobbian Union South Division
Arroyo Grande Suns - Owner: Abelard Capet, Capet Manor Vineyards - GM/Manager: Jean-Luc Marchand
Cape Coral Hurricanes - Owner: Conway Birdie - GM/Manager: Huggy Miller
Colchester Elites - Owner: Heyward Rubber Company - GM/Manager: Robbie Wilbertson
Ginza Ninjas - Owner: OmniSea, Ltd. - GM/Manager: Huroko Uchiyama
San Alejo Montaneros - Owner: Godoy Entertainment - GM/Manager: Lando Peceda
Southport Sun Sox: Owner: Stage Productions - GM: Amanda Thompson - Manager: Charley Oscar
Summerland Sunsets - Owner: Augie Altonno - GM/Manager: Will Hackett
Turon Typhoons - Owner: Anastas International Shipping - GM/Manager: Ashton "Whitey" Richburn

Tycobbian Union East Division
East Point Panthers - Owner: Silver Mountain Marble Works - GM/Manager: Griff Clarke
High Mesa Cowboys - Owner: Queen Ranch - GM/Manager: Frisky Franks
Hillsboro Blazers - Owner: Hanford Banking and Insurance Company - GM/Manager: Arky Spanderson
Midway Wolves - Owner: Midway Baseball Cooperative - GM/Manager: Cochise Chandler
Ozarka Naturals - Owner: J. R. Ewing - GM/Manager: Joe Mac Carney
Red Bluff Red Sox - Owner/GM/Manager: Mack Connery
South Fork Stallions - Owner: Bobby Ewing - GM: Finley Charles - Manager: Deroche "Lips" Leon
Tuckanarra Blue Jays - Owner: Jayden Thorpe - GM/Manager: Carlton Stevens

Tycobbian Union West Division
Arlon Champions - Owner: Kobeer Sport and Athletic Apparel - GM/Manager: Gary Louis
Bay St. Clair Buccaneers - Owner: Louis "Sugar Lips" Charles - GM/Manager: Guy Rondre
Bayview Vikings - Owner: Brent Steiner, Steiner Shipbuilding - GM/Manager: Walter Johanssen
Chicopee Braves - Owner: Jenkins Lumber Company - GM: Lou Littlefeather - Manager: Harry Fleetfoot
Denton City Redbirds - Owner: The Denton Family Foundation - GM/Manager: Ford Whiteman
La Claire Lynx : Owner/GM/Manager: Rip Calkin
Kenwood Wildcats - Owner: Kenwood Farmers Co-Op - GM/Manager: Aaron Hankins
Rolling Hills Reds - Owner: Lemroh Meat Company - GM/Manager: Matty Christianson

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Old 07-20-2023, 11:57 AM   #14
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Those Hartsdale Hellcats logos are creative! I like the growler concept.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:05 PM   #15
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Excellent work, 20_range.... you really done well... I will use these for sure.

Since the primary color is Red for the Hellcats... could you make the Tiger image red on the circular logo... keep the town and nickname red... don't change it... black is the secondary color... the black bottles are great.

Love the red Tiger image in the bottle on the revised Secondary Logo.

Thank you... you really did a fine job.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:21 PM   #16
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Stacy Engel is so good! And Huggy. I love renaming players. What I usually do these days is rename every first round draft pick for the whole league to a soft theme - the next time I do a big round of renaming, I'll use your list



Check out this bizarre shape I made before I finally decided to just do a circle
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:48 PM   #17
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I love the revised red tiger circular one.

The second one is creative... I might suggest using the bottle in place of the two A's... it might work... don't think the HELLCATS font on the second one will show up well on game screens.

jg2977 will probably like the second one.

Thanks a bunch for doing this for me... hope I'm not too much of a pain to deal with.

Will post the second team for you later today.

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Old 07-20-2023, 01:17 PM   #18
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Here is what your work looks like in the game.

You know, the black tiger on the circular shows up better in the game.

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Old 07-20-2023, 01:23 PM   #19
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Growler Primary Logo

I like this one if there were some way to use HARTSDALE and not split it up... maybe placing it at the bottom might do it... might use a fuller, wider font that would show up better.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:25 PM   #20
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Secondary Logos... has H on them... one of them has a baseball, too... the white H shows up better in the game.
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