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20_range's Project For Eugene Church's IPA
20_range, you said you would do 3 Islandian Pro Alliance teams' logos for me... you also said you wanted to do the Hartsdale Hellcats, too.
Suggestions: Here is the first one... please make a Primary Logo (circular, square, badge, banner or otherwise)... include town name and nickname on the Primary... just use town letter for the Secondary Logo... also make a Secondary Logo using the mascot image in a simple and uncomplicated style... simple styles show up better at the 50 x 50 pixel size. I use the black skin... make sure the logo shows up well on a dark black background. Do one set in a tradition style for me...1950s to 1980s would be my period... do another set using your own thoughts, colors and creativity... it would be good to see what you come up with... EC will use it if it's better. Hartsdale Hellcats Colors: Red (160, 0, 0) is the primary color Black and White are also used on the primary and secondary logos. Hartsdale Hellcats Owner: Pioneer Brewing Company GM Emeritus: Jud Turchin GM/Manager: Mark Markis Hartsdale, with population of about 74,000, is situated on the slopes of the Appian Mountains of Northern Tycobbia. It is a blue-collar, working class town, functional and old-fashioned in architecture. Primary industries are coal and iron ore mining, timber, glassware and beer. The vital Appian River begins in the Appian Mountains near North Hills, travels most of the country from north to south, past Hartsdale to the capital city, La Claire, then finally culminates at Bay St. Clair, a seaport town on the west central coast. The river provides an inexpensive source of transportation and is crucial to Hartsdale’s and Tycobbia’s economies. Hartsdale is also the home of the Hellcats baseball team of the Islandian Pro Alliance. They are in the Tycobbian Union North Division and play at Pioneer Park. The Pioneer Brewing Company owns the club and is the maker of Tycobbia’s favorite brew, Pioneer Premium Beer. The brewery can be seen just beyond the center and right field fences of Pioneer Park. In fact, the brick walls of the factory form part of the right field bleachers. Company bigwigs can watch the ballgame from their offices. Hellcats fans take their baseball very seriously and are serious students of the game. It’s baseball, beer and hot dogs in the hearts of the fans -- and the last two are a very distant second. When they go to a game, their eyes stay glued to the action on the field. They are hardcore Hellcats fans, too, and give no breaks or quarter to the opposing team or their fans. Very few visiting fans have the courage to display their loyalties very much in front of the rough and rowdy Hellcats. They get some very hard stares or worse, if they do. The Hartsdalians are tough and demanding on the Hellcats players, too. "We calls them as we sees them". At the traditional seventh-inning stretch each adult is gifted with a small miniature sample of Pioneer Beer and it is used to toast their cherished baseball team as they sing a few bars of “99 bottles of beer on the wall”, followed by “Take me out to the ballgame”. And you can get the best burgers and dogs in Tycobbia, grilled to perfection on the concessions concourse... Beers, burgers and baseball is what you get at Pioneer Park. The Hellcats are corporately owned. Zim Donner, a 50-year veteran in amateur and professional baseball, was the first Hellcat skipper in the early days of the Islandian Pro Alliance. He was a fine up-and-coming shortstop until he suffered a couple of beanballs that turned him into just a journeyman infielder. But he is one fine manager and baseball teacher. When he was the manager Donner was known to charge the mound occasionally. The fiery Hellcats fans love him. Donner moved upstairs as GM in the late 2020s and made Hall of Fame shortstop Jud Turchin the skipper. He was a seven-time All-Star in addition to being a Gold Glove fielder, who swung a big bat. In his 21 seasons with Hartsdale (2002-2022) Turchin batted .304 with over 300 homers, 1600 RBIs and 1800 runs scored. He played in 2957 games, collected 3360 hits and was inducted into the IPA Hall of Fame in 2036. The working GM and skipper is Mark Markis. He took over from Turchin in 2062. Markis has a unique background. High School and college ball were his only experience and he was just a mediocre or so-so outfielder at best. He never made it to the Islandian Pro Alliance, but Markis is an analytical genius. Turchin hired him to help him evaluate ballplayers. Markis so impressed Turchin over the years that he was given the reins to the ball club. Pioneer Park (1954) Capacity: 10,000 Dimensions: LF Line 322 LF 345 LCF 375 CF 415 RCT 375 RF 345 RF Line 322 Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-18-2023 at 09:07 PM. |
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Here are the current set of logos, jerseys and caps I am using.
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I'm going to be trying to do simpler logos with this project (trying!), so I think I will move away from my original Harlem/Hartsdale Hellcats idea, with a full splayed out tiger and apartment buildings. Plus a tiger should be orange.
I think for the brewery theme I will try out a growler. |
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Really excited to see what you come up with. Thanks for doing this project for me... take your time... no rush... do each team at your convenience. Sorry, I apologize for trying to micro manage... I'm a nice control freak, I think. Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-19-2023 at 01:12 PM. |
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jg2977 also has an Islandian Pro Alliance league.
He will probably use some of your work, too. He is more apt to like your fancy, creative work. jg2977 is a lot younger and more avant-garde than EC.
Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-18-2023 at 09:19 PM. |
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Hartsdale Hellcats growler ideas
Here are some growler ideas, based on the fact that the team is owned by a beer company. They all have a white border that isn't showing up on the message board
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I was hoping to get a Zim Donner "ugly as boiled sin" prototype done today too, but unfortunately my kid, who has not been sleeping well, has again woken up :|
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Very well done, 20_range.
You did well in spite of not having much to work with. I like the Tiger image... is there any way to put the Tiger on the third Primary Logo without splitting up HARTSDALE on it?. You need to use a font that is solid... the HARTS and DALE font doesn't show up well on game screens The Secondary Logos are fine... could you put the Tiger image on a Bottle for a third Secondary Logo? Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-19-2023 at 11:20 PM. |
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Hartsdale Hellcats
Well I tried to do some that were more complex, but as you could have told me, simpler is better
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Boiled Sin
with that said, I did also make this
I know everyone has seen this quote a thousand times while the game loads
Last edited by 20_range; 07-20-2023 at 12:47 AM. |
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Not sure everyone understands why you did this using Don Zimmer. All of the managers' names in my Islandian Pro Alliance early days were created by taking a historic major league player or manager and flipping the first names and last names around. Thus Don Zimmer became Zim Donner... Zim Donner was known in the IPA for charging pitchers who hit his batters... some people caught what I was doing in my Dynasty Forum thread... some didn't. All of the names are not flipped flopped, but most of them are. Here is the first set of flip-flopped names. Ruthlandian Union North Division Ancona Red Elephants - Owner: Golden Hill Insurance - GM: Nick Yakis - Manager: Manny Mickens Far Mountain Redhawks - Owner: Johann Becker - GM/Manager:Alex Groveland Glasco Athletics - Owner: Great Aberdeen Granite Company - GM/Manager: McDuffie Hughes Kilkenny Cats - Owner: Smithwick's Brewing Company - GM/Manager: Kieran McKenna LaGrange Sports - Owner/GM/Manager: Foxy Jimison Ranford Bulls - Owner: Barnes Oil Company - GM: O'Neal Buckman - Manager: Page Satcher Taranto Tars - Owner: Papa Giovanni's Pizzas - GM/Manager: Tommaso Lazzorda Valmara Vipers - Owner: Viper Offshore Services - GM/Manager: J. Jackson Samuel Ruthlandian Union South Division Belair Beach Sunbirds - Owner: Jorge Trujillo - GM/Manager: Marty Pedroza Claxton Diamonds - Owner: DeBeers Mining Company - GM/Manager: Stacy Engel Crystal Lake Crushers - Owner: Casino Resorts, Inc. - GM/Manager: Herman "Baby" George Grand City Cybercats - Owner: Windows Technologies, Gates Billingham CEO - GM/Manager: Torry Joseph San Dimas Rancheros - Owner: Esai Montanez - GM/Manager: Paco Banderos St. John Crusaders - Owner: The Brothers of St. John the Baptist - GM: Barry Edwards - Manager: Dickie Billings Valka Blackhawks - Owner: Cybertel, Andrus Valk CEO - GM/Manager: Jaan Kurus Waleska Westerners - Owner: Ewing Oil, Jock Ewing, President - GM/Manager: McGraw Johnson Ruthlandian Union East Divison Beechwood Bobcats - Owner: Bob Catlin - GM/Manager: Bret George Belle Plaine Musketeers - Owner/GM/Manager: Boo Ladrieux Cold Creek Catamounts - Owner: Cold Creek Catamounts Baseball Club - GM/Manager: T. Kelly Holmes Eastshore Elegants - Owner: Clark and Vivien Butler, Tara Plantation Enterprises - GM/Manager: Killer Brewster Elnora All-Stars - Owner: George Costanza - GM/Manager: Zoggy White Marston Nine - Owner: Doubleday Sporting Goods - GM/Manager: Johnny Walters Sugar Valley Rattlers - Owner/GM: Manny Earl - Manager: Gibson Bobkins Wynnamac Sundowners - Owner: Granger Co-Operative Association - GM/Manager: Matt Donnelly Ruthlandian Union West Division Colfax Blasters - Owner: Precious Metal Corporation - GM/Manager: Clem Rogers Forest City Lumberjacks - Owner/GM/Manager: Rob Jackson Fort Benton Defenders - Owner: General Paddy George - GM/Manager: Robbie Brooks Middlefield Roosters - Owner: Middlefield Merchants Association - GM/Manager: Smitty Michaels Rocky Rapids Snappers - Owner: Express Freight and Shipping Company - GM/Manager: Ryan Noland Sligo Ramblers - Owner: Myron Dalrymple - GM/Manager: Eddie Keys Stoner Stars - Owner: Nonnac Textiles - GM: Beanie Billington - Manager: Willie Dickens Volusia Vigilantes - Owner: Tierra Wools Consolidated - GM: Juan-Carlos de la Hoya - Manager: Alfonso Feliz Tycobbian Union North Division Blue Lake Blue Sox - Owners: Tink Joseph, Ev Johnson, Chance Franklin - GM/Manager: Cobb Tyson Fairfax Frogs - Owner: Frog Fashions - GM/Manager: Harry Buckley Hartsdale Hellcats - Owner: Pioneer Brewing Company - GM/Manager: Zim Donner Luxora Zorros - Owner: De la Vega Foundation - GM/Manager: Alejandro Rodrigo Mahaska Haymakers - Owner/GM: Rickey Branch - Asst GM: Rick Branch, Jr. - Manager: Rusty Tanussa North Hills Hawks - Owner: Hawk Steel Company - GM/Manager: Hub Carlson Oxford Red Caps - Owner: Tyco-Tech - GM: Amanda Effings - Manager: Campy Roy White River Rascals - Owner: Tycalco - GM/Manager: John Randison Tycobbian Union South Division Arroyo Grande Suns - Owner: Abelard Capet, Capet Manor Vineyards - GM/Manager: Jean-Luc Marchand Cape Coral Hurricanes - Owner: Conway Birdie - GM/Manager: Huggy Miller Colchester Elites - Owner: Heyward Rubber Company - GM/Manager: Robbie Wilbertson Ginza Ninjas - Owner: OmniSea, Ltd. - GM/Manager: Huroko Uchiyama San Alejo Montaneros - Owner: Godoy Entertainment - GM/Manager: Lando Peceda Southport Sun Sox: Owner: Stage Productions - GM: Amanda Thompson - Manager: Charley Oscar Summerland Sunsets - Owner: Augie Altonno - GM/Manager: Will Hackett Turon Typhoons - Owner: Anastas International Shipping - GM/Manager: Ashton "Whitey" Richburn Tycobbian Union East Division East Point Panthers - Owner: Silver Mountain Marble Works - GM/Manager: Griff Clarke High Mesa Cowboys - Owner: Queen Ranch - GM/Manager: Frisky Franks Hillsboro Blazers - Owner: Hanford Banking and Insurance Company - GM/Manager: Arky Spanderson Midway Wolves - Owner: Midway Baseball Cooperative - GM/Manager: Cochise Chandler Ozarka Naturals - Owner: J. R. Ewing - GM/Manager: Joe Mac Carney Red Bluff Red Sox - Owner/GM/Manager: Mack Connery South Fork Stallions - Owner: Bobby Ewing - GM: Finley Charles - Manager: Deroche "Lips" Leon Tuckanarra Blue Jays - Owner: Jayden Thorpe - GM/Manager: Carlton Stevens Tycobbian Union West Division Arlon Champions - Owner: Kobeer Sport and Athletic Apparel - GM/Manager: Gary Louis Bay St. Clair Buccaneers - Owner: Louis "Sugar Lips" Charles - GM/Manager: Guy Rondre Bayview Vikings - Owner: Brent Steiner, Steiner Shipbuilding - GM/Manager: Walter Johanssen Chicopee Braves - Owner: Jenkins Lumber Company - GM: Lou Littlefeather - Manager: Harry Fleetfoot Denton City Redbirds - Owner: The Denton Family Foundation - GM/Manager: Ford Whiteman La Claire Lynx : Owner/GM/Manager: Rip Calkin Kenwood Wildcats - Owner: Kenwood Farmers Co-Op - GM/Manager: Aaron Hankins Rolling Hills Reds - Owner: Lemroh Meat Company - GM/Manager: Matty Christianson Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-20-2023 at 12:00 PM. |
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Those Hartsdale Hellcats logos are creative! I like the growler concept.
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Excellent work, 20_range.... you really done well... I will use these for sure.
Since the primary color is Red for the Hellcats... could you make the Tiger image red on the circular logo... keep the town and nickname red... don't change it... black is the secondary color... the black bottles are great. Love the red Tiger image in the bottle on the revised Secondary Logo. Thank you... you really did a fine job. |
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Stacy Engel is so good! And Huggy. I love renaming players. What I usually do these days is rename every first round draft pick for the whole league to a soft theme - the next time I do a big round of renaming, I'll use your list
Check out this bizarre shape I made before I finally decided to just do a circle |
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I love the revised red tiger circular one.
The second one is creative... I might suggest using the bottle in place of the two A's... it might work... don't think the HELLCATS font on the second one will show up well on game screens. jg2977 will probably like the second one. Thanks a bunch for doing this for me... hope I'm not too much of a pain to deal with. Will post the second team for you later today. Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-20-2023 at 01:37 PM. |
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Here is what your work looks like in the game.
You know, the black tiger on the circular shows up better in the game. Primary Logos Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-20-2023 at 01:38 PM. |
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Growler Primary Logo
I like this one if there were some way to use HARTSDALE and not split it up... maybe placing it at the bottom might do it... might use a fuller, wider font that would show up better. Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-20-2023 at 01:41 PM. |
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Secondary Logos... has H on them... one of them has a baseball, too... the white H shows up better in the game.
Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-20-2023 at 01:45 PM. |
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