Complete World Names Database 1.2

Dogzilla · 05-09-2021, 11:05 AM

Here's the newest version of my complete names database, now with 223 name sets, updated to work with OOTP22 (can work with older versions too, see below). My goal is to provide realistic names for an OOTP universe, no matter what countries you add to your leagues. Here is a list of the name sets I used:

OOTP_Names_Database_v1-2.txt

I've included the sets that come with the game, although I've vastly expanded most of them, and added 183 new sets (some of which have been posted already). Most of this is my own work, although I have incorporated some names from other user-created sets into this master list.

I've added only a few new sets for this version, but have improved and updated many. Thanks to Germaniac for his work expanding the Germanophone sets, which I've adapted in this version. The biggest change fans of a more typical baseball universe will notice is the overhaul of the Latin American first name sets; I've tried to incorporate recent trends (names beginning in "Y" seem very popular recently) to make it feel more modern.

The files are too large to host here, so here's the links:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/fngdk...glish.txt/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/hnngq...glish.txt/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/smo6h...fault.xml/file

Just download the 3 files and overwrite the files in the /database directory (make backups first!). You will have to start a new game or re-import the names and world database to make them work.

If you play any older version of OOTP, you can use the names files but you'll have to rename them as follows:
"names_english.txt" rename to "names.txt"
"first_names_english" rename to "first_names.txt"

If you play OOTP21, the "world_default.xml" file will work just fine. However, for version OOTP20 and OOTP19, use this world_default.xml file:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/3i3k2...OTP20.xml/file

Just rename to world_default.xml before moving to the database folder.

If you use this file set, please provide feedback if you think the sets/xml file can be improved. I did some testing but there could be some things I overlooked.

NOTES
My principle guiding the creation of these sets is 90% realism, 5% playability and 5% fun. I've used data when available. I've gathered most of the names from lists of sports teams and the great forebears.io site. I've tried to make all the sets large enough to generate names for at least a small league (100k first/last names combinations minimum) but most larger countries have at least 1 million possible combinations.
I don't play with a nickname file, so I incorporated some nicknames into the first names lists.

Germaniac · 05-09-2021, 11:14 AM

Thanks for updating this

I have two questions:
When I have a v21 sim using your database will this automatically load your database in v22?

When I install a new patch, do I have to reload the database?

joefromchicago · 05-09-2021, 12:49 PM

Great job, Dogzilla!

In the names list, do you want me to post this alongside your previous names database, or do you want this one to supersede the old one?

Dogzilla · 05-09-2021, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

In the names list, do you want me to post this alongside your previous names database, or do you want this one to supersede the old one?

It should supercede the old one. The new set should work will all recent versions (with monor modifications, as specified)
Thanks!

Dogzilla · 05-09-2021, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germaniac

Thanks for updating this

I have two questions:
When I have a v21 sim using your database will this automatically load your database in v22?

When I install a new patch, do I have to reload the database?

I think if you are playing the same game, it won't update the names database until you install the new files and use the "reimport names and ethnicity database" function.

As for patches, it seems to overwrite these files so I temporarily move them to a new directory, then move them back after the update is complete.

Anyone reading this is free to correct me if I have this wrong.

scottbullet · 05-10-2021, 04:33 PM

Probably a stupid question, but when you modify the database and import into an existing game, does that mean the existing game will begin to pull from the new database when creating new players? Also - am I reading this right in that this mod basically takes the existing database of names and adds a lot more names to it? Thanks!

Dogzilla · 05-10-2021, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottbullet

Probably a stupid question, but when you modify the database and import into an existing game, does that mean the existing game will begin to pull from the new database when creating new players? Also - am I reading this right in that this mod basically takes the existing database of names and adds a lot more names to it? Thanks!

If your running an existing game, you have to use the Game Settings>Database>Re-import Name & Ethnicity Database and Game Settings>Database>Re-import World Database to start using the new files.

This mod adds more names, but also 183 new name sets so players from all countries can have accurate names.

Germaniac · 05-11-2021, 12:48 AM

I just checked and found out that my "first name" sets are not included in the file ... on the left side the names from the firs names included, on the right side the names from my file

The frequencies in the "names"-files has been changed, but that's not a big deal.

vieira17 · 05-20-2021, 03:39 AM

do i need to ''add a language'' in explore world tap to use the new names added ? i'm make a brazilian league, and the names still the same

joefromchicago · 05-20-2021, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vieira17

do i need to ''add a language'' in explore world tap to use the new names added ? i'm make a brazilian league, and the names still the same

Did you reload the name databases?

cbbl · 05-23-2021, 07:34 PM

Dogzilla -- your file is great! I've sent you a PM to see if we can join our efforts, as my last name datafile would fit nicely into your work. See my post here for info about my name set. I haven't looked deep into your file yet, but I do have some questions.

Great work!

vieira17 · 05-24-2021, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

Did you reload the name databases?

yeah, are supposed to be like that?

vieira17 · 06-02-2021, 01:46 PM

is normal the flags disapear ?

Dogzilla · 06-03-2021, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vieira17

yeah, are supposed to be like that?

That looks right. For name sets above 40, I don't think it fills in the name of the set, but they're still there. The 71% is for the Brazilian name set, 10% for South-American-Italian, etc.

None of these files should have anything to do with flags, though (response to next post).

Cornfed · 06-16-2021, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogzilla

Here's the newest version of my complete names database, now with 223 name sets, updated to work with OOTP22 (can work with older versions too, see below). My goal is to provide realistic names for an OOTP universe, no matter what countries you add to your leagues. Here is a list of the name sets I used:

NOTES
My principle guiding the creation of these sets is 90% realism, 5% playability and 5% fun. I've used data when available. I've gathered most of the names from lists of sports teams and the great forebears.io site. I've tried to make all the sets large enough to generate names for at least a small league (100k first/last names combinations minimum) but most larger countries have at least 1 million possible combinations.
I don't play with a nickname file, so I incorporated some nicknames into the first names lists.

Mine is messed up somehow. I keep getting mostly Caucasian and East Indian players in Mexico & Cuba with Hispanic names, and all my Puerto Rican players are Caucasian showing as Puerto Rican/American. It's also doing that for Venezuela (All Caucasian). I've redownloaded the files and re-imported them. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's done it on a league imported from 21, and a league started in 22.

Dogzilla · 06-17-2021, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornfed

Mine is messed up somehow. I keep getting mostly Caucasian and East Indian players in Mexico & Cuba with Hispanic names, and all my Puerto Rican players are Caucasian showing as Puerto Rican/American. It's also doing that for Venezuela (All Caucasian). I've redownloaded the files and re-imported them. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's done it on a league imported from 21, and a league started in 22.

Nothing is messed up, your describing exactly how I set it. The "Hispanic" face type is not really it's own type, it's seems like more of a mix of half African and half Caucasian, so I don't really use it that much. I use a mix of the other face types, depending on the country. If I used "Hispanic" as the default for Latin America you would see a lot of Mexican and Venezuelan players with African face types, and Dominicans with Caucasian face types, and that wouldn't be realistic. I wish Facegen would have more options, but I try to do the best I can with the options available.

As for Puerto Rico, by default all players from there have Second Nation set to USA...I didn't change that. Since they're all US Citizens, that makes sense to me.

Cornfed · 06-17-2021, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogzilla

Nothing is messed up, your describing exactly how I set it. The "Hispanic" face type is not really it's own type, it's seems like more of a mix of half African and half Caucasian, so I don't really use it that much. I use a mix of the other face types, depending on the country. If I used "Hispanic" as the default for Latin America you would see a lot of Mexican and Venezuelan players with African face types, and Dominicans with Caucasian face types, and that wouldn't be realistic. I wish Facegen would have more options, but I try to do the best I can with the options available.

As for Puerto Rico, by default all players from there have Second Nation set to USA...I didn't change that. Since they're all US Citizens, that makes sense to me.

Ok, so same thing for the Puerto Rican faces? Making their second nation as USA makes perfect sense to me too.

Thanks for all the work you've done. I thought I broke the game. LOL

Dogzilla · 06-17-2021, 06:50 PM

Correct, Puerto Rico should end up about 75% Caucasian face type, the rest split between African and other, which approximates census data.

albatross11 · 06-19-2021, 05:39 PM

I use "East Indian" for Latin player facegen pics. Works pretty good for me.

venflaalachi · 06-22-2021, 03:52 PM

Hi,

I use your name sets and world file in OOTP, but I use the previous version. If I were to use just the name sets, would those work with the previous world file, or do i have to also update my world file?

Mostly asking since i changed the baseball talent level of a lot of countries, and don't want to do that work again lol

05-09-2021, 11:05 AM	#1
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 421	Complete World Names Database 1.2 Here's the newest version of my complete names database, now with 223 name sets, updated to work with OOTP22 (can work with older versions too, see below). My goal is to provide realistic names for an OOTP universe, no matter what countries you add to your leagues. Here is a list of the name sets I used: OOTP_Names_Database_v1-2.txt I've included the sets that come with the game, although I've vastly expanded most of them, and added 183 new sets (some of which have been posted already). Most of this is my own work, although I have incorporated some names from other user-created sets into this master list. I've added only a few new sets for this version, but have improved and updated many. Thanks to Germaniac for his work expanding the Germanophone sets, which I've adapted in this version. The biggest change fans of a more typical baseball universe will notice is the overhaul of the Latin American first name sets; I've tried to incorporate recent trends (names beginning in "Y" seem very popular recently) to make it feel more modern. The files are too large to host here, so here's the links: https://www.mediafire.com/file/fngdk...glish.txt/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/hnngq...glish.txt/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/smo6h...fault.xml/file Just download the 3 files and overwrite the files in the /database directory (make backups first!). You will have to start a new game or re-import the names and world database to make them work. If you play any older version of OOTP, you can use the names files but you'll have to rename them as follows: "names_english.txt" rename to "names.txt" "first_names_english" rename to "first_names.txt" If you play OOTP21, the "world_default.xml" file will work just fine. However, for version OOTP20 and OOTP19, use this world_default.xml file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3i3k2...OTP20.xml/file Just rename to world_default.xml before moving to the database folder. If you use this file set, please provide feedback if you think the sets/xml file can be improved. I did some testing but there could be some things I overlooked. NOTES My principle guiding the creation of these sets is 90% realism, 5% playability and 5% fun. I've used data when available. I've gathered most of the names from lists of sports teams and the great forebears.io site. I've tried to make all the sets large enough to generate names for at least a small league (100k first/last names combinations minimum) but most larger countries have at least 1 million possible combinations. I don't play with a nickname file, so I incorporated some nicknames into the first names lists. Last edited by Dogzilla; 05-18-2021 at 10:37 PM.

05-09-2021, 11:14 AM	#2
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 3,058	Thanks for updating this I have two questions: When I have a v21 sim using your database will this automatically load your database in v22? When I install a new patch, do I have to reload the database? __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

05-09-2021, 12:49 PM	#3
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,692	Great job, Dogzilla! In the names list, do you want me to post this alongside your previous names database, or do you want this one to supersede the old one? __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

05-11-2021, 12:48 AM	#8
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 3,058	I just checked and found out that my "first name" sets are not included in the file ... on the left side the names from the firs names included, on the right side the names from my file The frequencies in the "names"-files has been changed, but that's not a big deal. Attached Images __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

06-19-2021, 05:39 PM	#19
albatross11 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 907	I use "East Indian" for Latin player facegen pics. Works pretty good for me. __________________ Peace, albatross

05-10-2021, 04:33 PM	#6
scottbullet Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 15	Probably a stupid question, but when you modify the database and import into an existing game, does that mean the existing game will begin to pull from the new database when creating new players? Also - am I reading this right in that this mod basically takes the existing database of names and adds a lot more names to it? Thanks!

05-20-2021, 03:39 AM	#9
vieira17 Banned Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: https://t.me/pump_upp Posts: 74	do i need to ''add a language'' in explore world tap to use the new names added ? i'm make a brazilian league, and the names still the same

05-23-2021, 07:34 PM	#11
cbbl All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,179	Dogzilla -- your file is great! I've sent you a PM to see if we can join our efforts, as my last name datafile would fit nicely into your work. See my post here for info about my name set. I haven't looked deep into your file yet, but I do have some questions. Great work!

06-02-2021, 01:46 PM	#13
vieira17 Banned Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: https://t.me/pump_upp Posts: 74	is normal the flags disapear ?

06-17-2021, 06:50 PM	#18
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 421	Correct, Puerto Rico should end up about 75% Caucasian face type, the rest split between African and other, which approximates census data.

06-22-2021, 03:52 PM	#20
venflaalachi Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 280	Hi, I use your name sets and world file in OOTP, but I use the previous version. If I were to use just the name sets, would those work with the previous world file, or do i have to also update my world file? Mostly asking since i changed the baseball talent level of a lot of countries, and don't want to do that work again lol