Minimal Injury

roadhouse · 08-23-2022, 06:57 PM

What do you do when your star player has an injury with minimal effects?
Sit him or play him?

mytreds · 08-23-2022, 07:00 PM

Early in the season, sit him.

Late in the season and making a playoff run, I play him.

Happen to an overpaid vet who has regressed past his prime? DL xD

Bobbyraz49 · 08-23-2022, 07:14 PM

Off topic a bit, but... I hate when I see "day to day injury" for 4 weeks.

mytreds · 08-24-2022, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbyraz49

Off topic a bit, but... I hate when I see "day to day injury" for 4 weeks.

In reality, they should make it so DtD injuries don’t say length.

roadhouse · 08-24-2022, 06:48 AM

Myteds, I like your thinking. Thanks!

Sweed · 08-24-2022, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mytreds

In reality, they should make it so DtD injuries don’t say length.

So, when I have an injured player and I go to my trainer to ask for an opinion on this "day to day" his response is "I don't know"? My thought is the any trainer\doctor would at least have an idea of how long it normally takes, within a time frame, and give you that as an estimate.

I pretty much never play my "day to days" as I prefer to not put them at more risk. So, I may be wrong but I think "day to day" lengths are not set in stone like any other injury. IE it can say two weeks but, you can still get a "it's not healing as quickly as hoped" notice and it can be extended. I do believe I have seen this. I don't know if they "heal faster" but, most are so short that might be fine? For the longer term, IE the four weeks mentioned? If I have a guy like that he goes to the DL. Whether they've ever come back sooner than the projection, I don't know. IMHO it should be possible to heal faster, same as other injuries, especially if they are on the DL.

If I'm wrong on the time frame being flexible, like other injuries, and day to days are "set in stone" once projected then that is what should change. There should be a possibility of them becoming shorter or longer and the trainer's original prognosis being wrong.

My 2 cents.

md40022 · 08-24-2022, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbyraz49

Off topic a bit, but... I hate when I see "day to day injury" for 4 weeks.

Depending on the situation (point in the season, standings, who the player is, etc.) the 4 weeker is normally a trip to the IL for me.

I agree with Sweed in that I've seen DtD not heal as fast as expected and then get a longer time frame than initially. You also sometimes get the "unknown" time frame as well. Whenever I get an unknown I always tend to try and throw the guy on the IL since those seem to really linger.

Does anyone know if you play your guys through DtD injuries if it increases the likelihood of the recovery time being pushed back? I've always wondered that.

cojo82 · 08-24-2022, 01:59 PM

depends on the injury and if the player has a long history of injuries.

JerseyPirate · 08-27-2022, 08:09 PM

If any of the 3 lines say moderate, I DL for week + or bench for less than a week. If minimal, then I play.

Pelican · 08-28-2022, 08:41 AM

Medically speaking (though I am not a doctor), there would be a world of difference between a pulled muscle or general soreness or a spike wound (all of which should heal completely with a few days off) and back or neck injury. And don’t even get me started on elbows and shoulders for pitchers! Sometimes the game seems to drop hints about the nature of the “day-to-day” injury, and I use that information in deciding whether to play, bench, or IL the player.

For SP, most injuries, I put them on the 15-day IL. It’s only three starts, if things go well. For RP, if my pen is deep, I just let them sit for a few days, and see what happens. For position players, I agree with the above. Mostly depends on the time of year, pennant race, need for their bat in the lineup. By September, I figure they have the whole offseason to heal.

I do tend to look at the injury history and potential in the player profile. If those numbers are high, the chance of a chronic or serious injury is going to be greater. But that is also probably a guy who won’t benefit too much from rest or an IL stint. He will just keep getting injured. One thing to avoid is the combination of fatigue and a propensity for injury. That is asking for trouble. Baby those players.

billyray1984 · 08-29-2022, 09:47 AM

I will always baby star players since 130-140 games a season is better than 100 if he aggravates the injury or it becomes chronic : I play with high short injuries (realistic modern day) and medium long injuries. The only exception is when there's a playoff push late in the season. Then it's all hands on deck unless it's something stupid like having a starter pitch through elbow or shoulder soreness.

For bench guys or low value bullpen guys, just put some ice on there I'm not paying you to sit on your ass.

I usually have the player strategy set to bench my star players players if the injury is moderate just as a safeguard though. I also recommend doing the same thing with valuable prospects in the minors.

Guys will not hit the IL unless the injury is more than a week though.

08-23-2022, 06:57 PM	#1
roadhouse Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 58	Minimal Injury What do you do when your star player has an injury with minimal effects? Sit him or play him?

08-23-2022, 07:00 PM	#2
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,115	Early in the season, sit him. Late in the season and making a playoff run, I play him. Happen to an overpaid vet who has regressed past his prime? DL xD __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

08-23-2022, 07:14 PM	#3
Bobbyraz49 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 911	Off topic a bit, but... I hate when I see "day to day injury" for 4 weeks.

08-24-2022, 06:48 AM	#5
roadhouse Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 58	Myteds, I like your thinking. Thanks!

08-24-2022, 01:59 PM	#8
cojo82 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 40	depends on the injury and if the player has a long history of injuries.

08-27-2022, 08:09 PM	#9
JerseyPirate Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 172	If any of the 3 lines say moderate, I DL for week + or bench for less than a week. If minimal, then I play.

08-28-2022, 08:41 AM	#10
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,885	Medically speaking (though I am not a doctor), there would be a world of difference between a pulled muscle or general soreness or a spike wound (all of which should heal completely with a few days off) and back or neck injury. And don’t even get me started on elbows and shoulders for pitchers! Sometimes the game seems to drop hints about the nature of the “day-to-day” injury, and I use that information in deciding whether to play, bench, or IL the player. For SP, most injuries, I put them on the 15-day IL. It’s only three starts, if things go well. For RP, if my pen is deep, I just let them sit for a few days, and see what happens. For position players, I agree with the above. Mostly depends on the time of year, pennant race, need for their bat in the lineup. By September, I figure they have the whole offseason to heal. I do tend to look at the injury history and potential in the player profile. If those numbers are high, the chance of a chronic or serious injury is going to be greater. But that is also probably a guy who won’t benefit too much from rest or an IL stint. He will just keep getting injured. One thing to avoid is the combination of fatigue and a propensity for injury. That is asking for trouble. Baby those players.

08-29-2022, 09:47 AM	#11
billyray1984 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 216	I will always baby star players since 130-140 games a season is better than 100 if he aggravates the injury or it becomes chronic : I play with high short injuries (realistic modern day) and medium long injuries. The only exception is when there's a playoff push late in the season. Then it's all hands on deck unless it's something stupid like having a starter pitch through elbow or shoulder soreness. For bench guys or low value bullpen guys, just put some ice on there I'm not paying you to sit on your ass. I usually have the player strategy set to bench my star players players if the injury is moderate just as a safeguard though. I also recommend doing the same thing with valuable prospects in the minors. Guys will not hit the IL unless the injury is more than a week though.