Color on Mac just awful

PSUColonel · 06-02-2022, 09:39 PM

Many of the uniforms are just so dar it's that it's unusable. I am now using the default textures, just so the colors look correct. Yellow appears as orange, red appears as a deep burgundy, blue is black, royal blue is black etc.....

Here is just a small example of what the jerseys look like.

EDIT: the cap is what it looks like if I just use the normal default texture. So as you can see, the cap looks good.

PSUColonel · 06-02-2022, 09:43 PM

Here's another example:

PSUColonel · 06-02-2022, 09:53 PM

here is another...I could really go on and on, but I think you get the idea.

ashantewarrier · 06-02-2022, 10:42 PM

Wow.

So far, OOTP23 for Mac is a swing and a miss when it comes to facegen and graphics. Hoping that this gets corrected soon.

Until then, back to OOTP22 for me.

Alex Aab · 06-03-2022, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

Wow.

So far, OOTP23 for Mac is a swing and a miss when it comes to facegen and graphics. Hoping that this gets corrected soon.

Until then, back to OOTP22 for me.

Sorry about that. It's a bug in Facegen itself. We are working with the Facegen team to fix it.

Alex Aab · 06-03-2022, 10:26 AM

@PSUColonel
my guess is that there is something wrong with the normal maps.

Can you show us the texture and the normal map (file with the same name as the texture, but with an "_n" at the end before .png) pictures for one of such jerseys?

Is there a normal map file at all for one of that jerseys in that saved game? If so can you close the game, rename one such file to something (just for backup), start and load that save game and look at that jersey? If it solves the issue, than something is odd with that normal map file.

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Aab

@PSUColonel
my guess is that there is something wrong with the normal maps.

Can you show us the texture and the normal map (file with the same name as the texture, but with an "_n" at the end before .png) pictures for one of such jerseys?

Is there a normal map file at all for one of that jerseys in that saved game? If so can you close the game, rename one such file to something (just for backup), start and load that save game and look at that jersey? If it solves the issue, than something is odd with that normal map file.

A lot of the problems seem to be with ballcaps and jerseys that were made under the old format…they were created for pre-OOTP 23. Most of them were made with an outside utility, either carmaker or jersey maker.

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Aab

@PSUColonel
my guess is that there is something wrong with the normal maps.

Can you show us the texture and the normal map (file with the same name as the texture, but with an "_n" at the end before .png) pictures for one of such jerseys?

Is there a normal map file at all for one of that jerseys in that saved game? If so can you close the game, rename one such file to something (just for backup), start and load that save game and look at that jersey? If it solves the issue, than something is odd with that normal map file.

I will have to wait until I get home to try all this…I’m not particularly graphic’s savvy but I’ll try my best. What if there aren’t any normal maps? (As I suspect)

Alex Aab · 06-03-2022, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I will have to wait until I get home to try all this…I’m not particularly graphic’s savvy but I’ll try my best. What if there aren’t any normal maps? (As I suspect)

The game will use a default one that is the same for all jerseys without a specific normal map. If that one also not present (for whatever reason) the whole jersey looks very dark on the preview player.

For jerseys of the old format, like in your screenshots, there is usually no normal map file, but the external tools could have been modified to also create one (just a guess).

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Aab

The game will use a default one that is the same for all jerseys without a specific normal map. If that one also not present (for whatever reason) the whole jersey looks very dark on the preview player.

For jerseys of the old format, like in your screenshots, there is usually no normal map file, but the external tools could have been modified to also create one (just a guess).

All I want to know is…how do I get everything back to normal? (no pun intended lol)

Alex Aab · 06-03-2022, 11:32 AM

Sure,we will get there

By saying "get back", do you mean that the jerseys started to look weird recently and everything was fine in the previous subversions of OOTP 23? Or do you compare to older OOTP versions, e.g. 22?

How do the jerseys look like in the 3D game? Are they also darker or do they look normal there?

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 12:46 PM

Older versions…but I’m not entirely sure. I was thinking about re-installing all of the files just to see if that might help…there could be something missing somewhere.

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Aab

Sure,we will get there

By saying "get back", do you mean that the jerseys started to look weird recently and everything was fine in the previous subversions of OOTP 23? Or do you compare to older OOTP versions, e.g. 22?

How do the jerseys look like in the 3D game? Are they also darker or do they look normal there?

I haven’t really tried any 3D games, but the player profile pages are definitely affected

PSUColonel · 06-03-2022, 04:47 PM

It seems to start happening after I add the pre-made tournaments into the game. (Northwoods, MLB Draft & Prospects leagues etc...)

I first notice it with the logos...then if I reload the logos, they are ok. I will try the same with the caps and jerseys. These are the default logos...but I am now going to change them to my personal set...along with caps and jerseys....so it seems to me this is happening without any of the files from outside logo, or uniform makers.

PSUColonel · 06-04-2022, 11:45 AM

from what I can now tell, something has happened to all of the files in the batch....I started creating new ones, and they are fine...so I am not sure what happened, but good riddance I guess...I will have to start a new collection, and that's OK since there's a new format anyway.

Alex Aab · 06-07-2022, 03:57 AM

So only the custom jerseys of the old format from an uniform maker look as you showed in the first post?

Is the texture itself maybe darker than usual? In your screenshots there are the ballcap textures to the left.

Starting a new collection of the new format is fine, but it's pity to lose the old collection due to a bug (if it's one). If you like send us one such custom jersey texture file that looks darker and I will try it on my machine.

PSUColonel · 06-07-2022, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Aab

So only the custom jerseys of the old format from an uniform maker look as you showed in the first post?

Is the texture itself maybe darker than usual? In your screenshots there are the ballcap textures to the left.

Starting a new collection of the new format is fine, but it's pity to lose the old collection due to a bug (if it's one). If you like send us one such custom jersey texture file that looks darker and I will try it on my machine.

I don't know if it's a bug or not....it seems to just be this old set that has the issues.

06-02-2022, 09:39 PM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	Color on Mac just awful Many of the uniforms are just so dar it's that it's unusable. I am now using the default textures, just so the colors look correct. Yellow appears as orange, red appears as a deep burgundy, blue is black, royal blue is black etc..... Here is just a small example of what the jerseys look like. EDIT: the cap is what it looks like if I just use the normal default texture. So as you can see, the cap looks good. Attached Images

06-02-2022, 09:43 PM	#2
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	Here's another example: Attached Images

06-02-2022, 09:53 PM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	here is another...I could really go on and on, but I think you get the idea. Attached Images

06-02-2022, 10:42 PM	#4
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,309	Wow. So far, OOTP23 for Mac is a swing and a miss when it comes to facegen and graphics. Hoping that this gets corrected soon. Until then, back to OOTP22 for me. __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

06-03-2022, 11:32 AM	#11
Alex Aab OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 174	Sure,we will get there By saying "get back", do you mean that the jerseys started to look weird recently and everything was fine in the previous subversions of OOTP 23? Or do you compare to older OOTP versions, e.g. 22? How do the jerseys look like in the 3D game? Are they also darker or do they look normal there? Last edited by Alex Aab; 06-03-2022 at 11:39 AM.

06-03-2022, 10:26 AM	#6
Alex Aab OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 174	@PSUColonel my guess is that there is something wrong with the normal maps. Can you show us the texture and the normal map (file with the same name as the texture, but with an "_n" at the end before .png) pictures for one of such jerseys? Is there a normal map file at all for one of that jerseys in that saved game? If so can you close the game, rename one such file to something (just for backup), start and load that save game and look at that jersey? If it solves the issue, than something is odd with that normal map file.

06-03-2022, 12:46 PM	#12
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	Older versions…but I’m not entirely sure. I was thinking about re-installing all of the files just to see if that might help…there could be something missing somewhere.

06-03-2022, 04:47 PM	#14
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	It seems to start happening after I add the pre-made tournaments into the game. (Northwoods, MLB Draft & Prospects leagues etc...) I first notice it with the logos...then if I reload the logos, they are ok. I will try the same with the caps and jerseys. These are the default logos...but I am now going to change them to my personal set...along with caps and jerseys....so it seems to me this is happening without any of the files from outside logo, or uniform makers. Attached Images Last edited by PSUColonel; 06-03-2022 at 04:55 PM.

06-04-2022, 11:45 AM	#15
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,141	from what I can now tell, something has happened to all of the files in the batch....I started creating new ones, and they are fine...so I am not sure what happened, but good riddance I guess...I will have to start a new collection, and that's OK since there's a new format anyway.

06-07-2022, 03:57 AM	#16
Alex Aab OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 174	So only the custom jerseys of the old format from an uniform maker look as you showed in the first post? Is the texture itself maybe darker than usual? In your screenshots there are the ballcap textures to the left. Starting a new collection of the new format is fine, but it's pity to lose the old collection due to a bug (if it's one). If you like send us one such custom jersey texture file that looks darker and I will try it on my machine.