Amateur Draft

Francoeurstein · 04-25-2022, 11:53 AM

--So I noticed that the draftees in OOTP 23 are MUCH more advanced when compared to previous versions. I appreciate that college guys are closer to the major leagues, but there are dozens of guys who are ready to play in the major leagues right when they sign. For instance, I just drafted a SP in the 2nd round who will go straight to AAA and probably be in my rotation or a week or two. I know this happens IRL, but it's pretty rare. I've only ran 3 drafts so far, but it's odd how advanced the college guys are. Has anybody else experienced this?

Galeg · 04-25-2022, 11:57 AM

I thought that about 22, but IMO 23 seems toned down to a more acceptable level. Perhaps your scout is lying to you.

slugga27 · 04-25-2022, 12:11 PM

What are you using to guide your opinion of these prospects?

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Francoeurstein · 04-25-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

What are you using to guide your opinion of these prospects?

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I will insert these guys into my bullpen/rotation shortly after I draft them and they have instant success. I see it with other teams as well. I just ran another draft and turned on commissioner mode to do some digging. A lot of these guys have current ratings higher than their potential ratings at 21, 22, 23 etc. It's odd.

slugga27 · 04-25-2022, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Francoeurstein

I will insert these guys into my bullpen/rotation shortly after I draft them and they have instant success. I see it with other teams as well. I just ran another draft and turned on commissioner mode to do some digging. A lot of these guys have current ratings higher than their potential ratings at 21, 22, 23 etc. It's odd.

But you immediately slotted the guy in at AAA. Why?

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Lukas Berger · 04-25-2022, 01:02 PM

It's already on our to-do list to review how players are developing in the draft pool, as it does seem like it's a bit too fast right now. So hopefully we'll have that looking better soon.

In the meantime, you can always turn off the option to have players develop while in the draft pool and that might help with this.

Birdland24 · 04-25-2022, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

It's already on our to-do list to review how players are developing in the draft pool, as it does seem like it's a bit too fast right now. So hopefully we'll have that looking better soon.

In the meantime, you can always turn off the option to have players develop while in the draft pool and that might help with this.

Don’t fix it. I play as the Orioles I need these guys developing fast. Lol

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Dave Stieb II · 04-25-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Galeg

I thought that about 22, but IMO 23 seems toned down to a more acceptable level. Perhaps your scout is lying to you.

Yes, it was definitely a problem in '22 but they toned it down after a few updates. Realism is the key.

Francoeurstein · 04-25-2022, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

But you immediately slotted the guy in at AAA. Why?

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Because it was appropriate for his talent level. A major league caliber pitcher with no pro experience should go straight to AAA IMO.

HoustonGM · 04-25-2022, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

It's already on our to-do list to review how players are developing in the draft pool, as it does seem like it's a bit too fast right now. So hopefully we'll have that looking better soon.

In the meantime, you can always turn off the option to have players develop while in the draft pool and that might help with this.

In a couple of tests, it does seem as though the cause is the development while in the draft pool. I ran out to 2023 draft with the default settings and there was a ton of players over 30 overall, a round or two worth at 40+, and a handful above 50. When I ran the same test but with draft pool development off, the highest overall in the pool was 27.

Mat · 04-26-2022, 06:03 AM

I would definitely recommend disabling development for draft pool players. This has been toned down but still too agressive IMO.

I have started to limit the age of draft pool players as it forces the drafted players to spend more time in the minors.

Lukas Berger · 04-26-2022, 08:03 AM

There was a bug here causing the over aggressive development. This should be fixed for the next patch.

Infinite_Jester54 · 04-26-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

There was a bug here causing the over aggressive development. This should be fixed for the next patch.

Great to hear that a fix is incoming! Any idea of when we might expect the next patch? If it is soon, I'm going to wait to start my dynasty save; but if it might be a while away, I will probably just use the hotfix of turning off pool development.

Francoeurstein · 04-26-2022, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

There was a bug here causing the over aggressive development. This should be fixed for the next patch.

Awesome, thank you!

md40022 · 04-26-2022, 06:14 PM

So I am attempting to disable development for draft pool players, but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly....

Game Settings --> Players & FaceGen --> Disable Development for Draft Eligible Players

Is that it? Or should I be doing something else?

And also, what exactly is this disabling? So players are not developing while they are still in the draft pool, but then once actually drafted their development begins?

progen · 04-26-2022, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by md40022

So I am attempting to disable development for draft pool players, but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly....

Game Settings --> Players & FaceGen --> Disable Development for Draft Eligible Players

Is that it? Or should I be doing something else?

And also, what exactly is this disabling? So players are not developing while they are still in the draft pool, but then once actually drafted their development begins?

This is all I could find in the manual, but what you just mentioned makes sense. Would wait though, till someone else chimes in.

Disable Player Development for Draft-Eligible Players - Select the Disable Player Development check box if you do not want players who are draft-eligible to develop, unless they're playing in a feeder league.

Here's the OOTP manual link:

http://manuals.ootpdevelopments.com/...player_options

HoustonGM · 04-26-2022, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by md40022

So I am attempting to disable development for draft pool players, but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly....

Game Settings --> Players & FaceGen --> Disable Development for Draft Eligible Players

Is that it? Or should I be doing something else?

And also, what exactly is this disabling? So players are not developing while they are still in the draft pool, but then once actually drafted their development begins?

Yes, that's the setting I used when testing.

Primary · 04-26-2022, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

There was a bug here causing the over aggressive development. This should be fixed for the next patch.

great news

MikeS21 · 04-27-2022, 07:34 AM

Speaking of amateur draft, I am a bit confused by all the new “lottery” stuff in the draft in 23. How is the best way to ignore the lottery and keep the old straight draft of 22? I don’t think we need to worry about the AI “tanking” in order to get higher draft picks.

Lukas Berger · 04-27-2022, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeS21

Speaking of amateur draft, I am a bit confused by all the new “lottery” stuff in the draft in 23. How is the best way to ignore the lottery and keep the old straight draft of 22? I don’t think we need to worry about the AI “tanking” in order to get higher draft picks.

There's a setting you can turn off. I think in 'options'.

04-25-2022, 11:53 AM	#1
Francoeurstein Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 285	Amateur Draft --So I noticed that the draftees in OOTP 23 are MUCH more advanced when compared to previous versions. I appreciate that college guys are closer to the major leagues, but there are dozens of guys who are ready to play in the major leagues right when they sign. For instance, I just drafted a SP in the 2nd round who will go straight to AAA and probably be in my rotation or a week or two. I know this happens IRL, but it's pretty rare. I've only ran 3 drafts so far, but it's odd how advanced the college guys are. Has anybody else experienced this?

04-25-2022, 01:02 PM	#6
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,249	It's already on our to-do list to review how players are developing in the draft pool, as it does seem like it's a bit too fast right now. So hopefully we'll have that looking better soon. In the meantime, you can always turn off the option to have players develop while in the draft pool and that might help with this. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com PreOrder Out of the Park Baseball 26! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

04-26-2022, 08:03 AM	#12
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,249	There was a bug here causing the over aggressive development. This should be fixed for the next patch. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com PreOrder Out of the Park Baseball 26! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

04-25-2022, 11:57 AM	#2
Galeg Major Leagues Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 405	I thought that about 22, but IMO 23 seems toned down to a more acceptable level. Perhaps your scout is lying to you.

04-25-2022, 12:11 PM	#3
slugga27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,272	What are you using to guide your opinion of these prospects? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-26-2022, 06:03 AM	#11
Mat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 652	I would definitely recommend disabling development for draft pool players. This has been toned down but still too agressive IMO. I have started to limit the age of draft pool players as it forces the drafted players to spend more time in the minors.

04-26-2022, 06:14 PM	#15
md40022 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 740 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	So I am attempting to disable development for draft pool players, but I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly.... Game Settings --> Players & FaceGen --> Disable Development for Draft Eligible Players Is that it? Or should I be doing something else? And also, what exactly is this disabling? So players are not developing while they are still in the draft pool, but then once actually drafted their development begins?

04-27-2022, 07:34 AM	#19
MikeS21 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 276	Speaking of amateur draft, I am a bit confused by all the new “lottery” stuff in the draft in 23. How is the best way to ignore the lottery and keep the old straight draft of 22? I don’t think we need to worry about the AI “tanking” in order to get higher draft picks.