Greatest offensive season in HOB history

Tiger Fan · 06-14-2002, 06:07 PM

Between the original HOB and the HOB2 I have played 135 seasons but I have never seen a player so dominate a league offensively as Lou Gehrig did in 1934 of the HOB2.

Gehrig led the majors in virtually every offensive category - .441 batting average, 60 homers, 184 rbi's and 170 runs scored. His slugging percentage for the season was a record .851.

Here is how Gehrig's 1934 numbers compare all time
in the HOB2



HOME RUNS

Babe Ruth   Cle 1930    61

Lou Gehrig  ChC 1934    60

Babe Ruth   Cle 1931    58

Babe Ruth   Cle 1927    57

Lou Gehrig  Cin 1929    55



RBI's

Babe Ruth   Cle 1930    186

Lou Gehrig  ChC 1934    184

Babe Ruth   Cle 1929    176

Jimmie Foxx ChW 1930    170

Hack Wilson SLN 1929    168



AVERAGE

Lou Gehrig    ChC  1934  .441

Ty Cobb       CHW  1921  .423

George Burns  Bkn  1921  .410

Heine Manush  Wsh  1929  .406

Chuck Klein   Bsn  1928  .404



SLUGGING PERCENTAGE

Lou Gehrig    ChC  1934  .851

Lou Gehrig    Cin  1929  .764

Babe Ruth     Cle  1930  .760

Babe Ruth     Cle  1929  .731

Ken Williams  ChC  1925  .714



RUNS SCORED

Lou Gehrig    ChC  1934   170

Ken Willaims  ChC  1925   164

Lou Gehrig    Cin  1929   162



Here are Gehrig's career numbers:



  CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1923  .266  0  11  25  64  17  0  0   3  0  0   2   8 .288 .266   SLB

  1924  .325  2  32  81 283  92  8  8  42  0  0   9  25 .346 .431   SLB

  1925  .306 16 101 148 595 182 30  5  88  0  0  62  52 .371 .454   SLB

  1926  .373 23 106 150 603 225 32 17 114  3  4  69  62 .438 .597   SLB,AL

  1927  .315 26 135 150 638 201 36 13 123  3  2  60  61 .374 .534   SLB,AL

  1928  .376 37 133 148 595 224 30 12 118  0  1  55  51 .429 .654   CIN,NL

  1929  .385 55 168 151 610 235 38 14 162  3  0  68  41 .447 .764   CIN,NL

  1930  .319 48 154 154 642 205 34 13 136  0  0  72  61 .388 .637   CIN,NL

  1931  .324 33  91 136 522 169 24  8 110  4  1  71  60 .405 .590   CIN,NL

  1932  .351 34 130 149 593 208 35 10 120  0  3  75  59 .424 .616   CIN,NL

  1933  .316 30 100 150 592 187 22  5  98  0  2  64  88 .383 .522   CHC,NL

  1934  .441 60 184 151 623 275 43 16 170  0  5  66 100 .496 .851   CHC,NL 

 

  Total AB  : 6360

  Total AVG : .349

  Total Hits: 2220

  Total HR  : 364

  Total RBI : 1345

  Total Runs: 1284

  Total SB  : 13

Gehrig, of course, won the MVP award in 1934- his 6th. At age 31 he is climbing the career leader boards
in most categories. Presently his career average of .349 is 4th best all time, his 2220 hits place him a season away from cracking the top 25, his 364 homers are second only to Ruth's 699 and he ranks 16th alltime in rbi's.

With Ruth now 39 and skills declining he likely wont get too many more homers so Gehrig has an outside chance at surpassing the Babe as the HOB2's all time home run king.



      HOMERUNS TOP 10

   1)  Babe Ruth *            699

   2)  Lou Gehrig *           364

   3)  Hack Wilson *          301

   4)  Al Simmons *           290

   5)  Jim Bottomley *        260

   6)  Lefty O'doul *         255

   7)  Eddie Murphy *         255

   8)  Irish Meusel           244

   9)  Bob Meusel *           239

   10) Joe Hauser *           223

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 [ 06-15-2002, 12:10 AM: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]

doubles · 06-15-2002, 04:33 AM

Wow. My best offensive season is 18 Homeruns and 105 RBIs. Of course, I am still in 1910.

gbmoore121 · 06-15-2002, 07:30 AM

WOW! A triple crown in a season is huge, but he was 2 homers and three Rbi from having the triple crown on the all-time single season leaderboard. That's a season. How 'bout that!

JimServo · 06-15-2002, 07:32 AM

{jaw drops)

blubbla · 06-15-2002, 04:00 PM

Amazing, absolutely amazing! I don't know how anybody could top that -- what a feat!

EDIT: Who were the lucky souls that benefitted from Lou terrorizing NL pitching? I would imagine the guys ahead of him scored 100+ times, and the guys behind 100+ RBI.

[ 06-15-2002, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: blubbla ]

Tiger Fan · 06-15-2002, 05:55 PM

Outfielders Babe Herman, Lefty O'Doul and Paul Easterling batted 2-4-5 around Gehrig in the 1934 season. O'Doul certainly benefited but number 4 hitter Babe Herman struggled all season. Easterling, the number 2 hitter and the leadoff platoon of catcher Spud Davis (100 runs) and second baseman Billy Rogell (85 runs) certainly benefited. Here are the stats of the 2-4-5 hitters:



Name            G  AB   H 2B 3B HR RBI   R  BB   K  AVG  OBP  SLG

P Easterling  135 584 169 47  5 10  72 109  39 124 .289 .333 .438 

B Herman      142 516 156 48  9  8  94  90  45  46 .302 .362 .477 

L O'doul      149 581 190 28  2 24 124 113  80  20 .327 .413 .506

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As a team the Cubs scored 1037 runs, second all-time behind only the 1930 Chicago White Sox who scored 1041 times. The Cubs totally dominated the NL offensively in 1934, as only St Louis was within 200 runs of Chicago's total.
As good as Chicago's offense was, the Cubs pitching was equally as bad. Chicago's 5.65 team era is among the worst ever recorded. Here is the worst starting rotation in HOB2 history.



   Name            ERA  W  L  S   G  GS    IP  HA   R  ER  BB   K

   H Mcquillan    5.84 12 17  0  32  32 251.0 348 195 163 107  75 

   A Liska        5.76  9 10  0  24  24 168.2 208 125 108  83  42 

   H Smith        5.76 10 19  0  32  32 253.0 345 186 162  92  42 

   A Walsh        5.42 15 16  0  34  34 275.2 382 214 166  98  41 

   B Hallahan     5.25 12  7  0  26  22 185.0 237 128 108  86  44 

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Due to the total lack of starting pitching the Cubs finished 4th in the National League, just 4 games over the .500 mark.

[ 06-16-2002, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]

Jason Moyer · 06-15-2002, 07:58 PM

Thank you for choosing the 1930's.

Would you like 200 hits and 40 homeruns with that?

Jason

JimServo · 06-16-2002, 05:56 AM

Geeze, that reminds of the 1930 Phillies. That team had a team AVG of .315 (a 20th century record), but an ERA of 6.71. They finished 52-102, but had a slightly better Pythagorean record of 60-94.

EDIT-Rethinking it, I think I might be wrong about the .315 being the 20th century record, but the 6.71 ERA is definitely the worst of the century.

[ 06-16-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: JimServo ]

JimServo · 06-16-2002, 06:03 AM

Highest Team Batting Averages of the 20th Century:

NL-New York Giants, 1930 (.319)
AL-Detrit Tigers, 1921 (.316)

So not only did the Phils not have the highest batting average of all time, they didn't have the highest in the NL that season.

06-15-2002, 07:30 AM	#3
gbmoore121 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 602	WOW! A triple crown in a season is huge, but he was 2 homers and three Rbi from having the triple crown on the all-time single season leaderboard. That's a season. How 'bout that! __________________ WWPF- via DDS Pro Football

06-15-2002, 07:32 AM	#4
JimServo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 418	{jaw drops) __________________ "When I was a small boy in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of the summer afternoon on a river bank, we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

06-15-2002, 05:55 PM	#6
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Outfielders Babe Herman, Lefty O'Doul and Paul Easterling batted 2-4-5 around Gehrig in the 1934 season. O'Doul certainly benefited but number 4 hitter Babe Herman struggled all season. Easterling, the number 2 hitter and the leadoff platoon of catcher Spud Davis (100 runs) and second baseman Billy Rogell (85 runs) certainly benefited. Here are the stats of the 2-4-5 hitters: Name G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K AVG OBP SLG P Easterling 135 584 169 47 5 10 72 109 39 124 .289 .333 .438 B Herman 142 516 156 48 9 8 94 90 45 46 .302 .362 .477 L O'doul 149 581 190 28 2 24 124 113 80 20 .327 .413 .506 . As a team the Cubs scored 1037 runs, second all-time behind only the 1930 Chicago White Sox who scored 1041 times. The Cubs totally dominated the NL offensively in 1934, as only St Louis was within 200 runs of Chicago's total. As good as Chicago's offense was, the Cubs pitching was equally as bad. Chicago's 5.65 team era is among the worst ever recorded. Here is the worst starting rotation in HOB2 history. Name ERA W L S G GS IP HA R ER BB K H Mcquillan 5.84 12 17 0 32 32 251.0 348 195 163 107 75 A Liska 5.76 9 10 0 24 24 168.2 208 125 108 83 42 H Smith 5.76 10 19 0 32 32 253.0 345 186 162 92 42 A Walsh 5.42 15 16 0 34 34 275.2 382 214 166 98 41 B Hallahan 5.25 12 7 0 26 22 185.0 237 128 108 86 44 . Due to the total lack of starting pitching the Cubs finished 4th in the National League, just 4 games over the .500 mark. [ 06-16-2002, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ] __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

06-15-2002, 07:58 PM	#7
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,108	Thank you for choosing the 1930's. Would you like 200 hits and 40 homeruns with that? Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

06-16-2002, 05:56 AM	#8
JimServo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 418	Geeze, that reminds of the 1930 Phillies. That team had a team AVG of .315 (a 20th century record), but an ERA of 6.71. They finished 52-102, but had a slightly better Pythagorean record of 60-94. EDIT-Rethinking it, I think I might be wrong about the .315 being the 20th century record, but the 6.71 ERA is definitely the worst of the century. [ 06-16-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: JimServo ] __________________ "When I was a small boy in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of the summer afternoon on a river bank, we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

06-15-2002, 04:33 AM	#2
doubles Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 485	Wow. My best offensive season is 18 Homeruns and 105 RBIs. Of course, I am still in 1910.

06-15-2002, 04:00 PM	#5
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	Amazing, absolutely amazing! I don't know how anybody could top that -- what a feat! EDIT: Who were the lucky souls that benefitted from Lou terrorizing NL pitching? I would imagine the guys ahead of him scored 100+ times, and the guys behind 100+ RBI. [ 06-15-2002, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: blubbla ]

06-16-2002, 06:03 AM	#9
JimServo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 418	Highest Team Batting Averages of the 20th Century: NL-New York Giants, 1930 (.319) AL-Detrit Tigers, 1921 (.316) So not only did the Phils not have the highest batting average of all time, they didn't have the highest in the NL that season. __________________ "When I was a small boy in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of the summer afternoon on a river bank, we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish." -Dwight D. Eisenhower