Save??

asaintsfan · 04-30-2003, 06:43 AM

How is this a save? New Orleans won 5-1 and the pitcher that got the save faced 1 batter in the ninth.

New Orleans IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
B. Hausman W 8.2 5 1 1 8 9 151 85 3.40 7-2
C. Heider S 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 4 3 5.29 13 SV

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
New Orleans 0 3 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 5 9 1
Houma 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 1

PITCHING
Batters Faced: B. Hausman 38, C. Heider 1
Ground Balls-Fly Balls: B. Hausman 8-7, C. Heider 0-0
Game Score: B. Hausman 71

fantom1979 · 04-30-2003, 06:48 AM

If Houma came in with two on or the bases loaded, it would be a save. I do believe that MLB rules state that if the RP comes in with the tying run on deck, it is a save situation.

asaintsfan · 04-30-2003, 06:50 AM

YEs there were two men on - but the tying run wasn't at the plate. I thought about too but even if the batter he faced would have homered - it would have still been 5-4.

hmmmmmmmmm

Henry · 04-30-2003, 06:59 AM

(a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
(b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or
(c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.

asaintsfan · 04-30-2003, 07:01 AM

damm - I never knew that.

sporr · 04-30-2003, 10:37 AM

The save rules have to be one of the most misunderstood by most baseball fans.

BillyBuck · 04-30-2003, 10:44 AM

And yet MLB got rid of the GWRBI and not the SAVE...

Henry · 04-30-2003, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyBuck
And yet MLB got rid of the GWRBI and not the SAVE...

Go Figure....

04-30-2003, 06:43 AM	#1
asaintsfan All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Orleans LA Posts: 558	Save?? How is this a save? New Orleans won 5-1 and the pitcher that got the save faced 1 batter in the ninth. New Orleans IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD B. Hausman W 8.2 5 1 1 8 9 151 85 3.40 7-2 C. Heider S 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 4 3 5.29 13 SV 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E New Orleans 0 3 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 5 9 1 Houma 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 1 PITCHING Batters Faced: B. Hausman 38, C. Heider 1 Ground Balls-Fly Balls: B. Hausman 8-7, C. Heider 0-0 Game Score: B. Hausman 71 __________________

04-30-2003, 06:48 AM	#2
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	If Houma came in with two on or the bases loaded, it would be a save. I do believe that MLB rules state that if the RP comes in with the tying run on deck, it is a save situation. __________________

04-30-2003, 06:50 AM	#3
asaintsfan All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Orleans LA Posts: 558	YEs there were two men on - but the tying run wasn't at the plate. I thought about too but even if the batter he faced would have homered - it would have still been 5-4. hmmmmmmmmm __________________

04-30-2003, 07:01 AM	#5
asaintsfan All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Orleans LA Posts: 558	damm - I never knew that. __________________

04-30-2003, 10:44 AM	#7
BillyBuck Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: KC, MO Posts: 436	And yet MLB got rid of the GWRBI and not the SAVE... __________________ Kansas City Crows - FEBL Champions 2006 and 2007 Oslo Mountain Dawgs - WBL Champions 2004 and 2005

04-30-2003, 06:59 AM	#4
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	(a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.

04-30-2003, 10:37 AM	#6
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	The save rules have to be one of the most misunderstood by most baseball fans.