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Old 09-25-2021, 02:34 PM   #1
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Dead ball era of OOTP22

It seems like the average diamond roster has about 3 players with OPS's over 800. Weaker teams will have 1 and sometimes zero, and the top teams 3-4. OPS+ isn't much better.

Pitchers dominated the entire year so far, it's pretty crazy how unbalanced it's been. It's only my second year playing, but it wasn't like this in OOTP21.
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Old 09-27-2021, 11:35 PM   #2
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It has been like that for months. I guess in some ways it makes sense, if every hitter had to face a hall of fame pitcher in their prime, with other hall of famers in their prime coming out of the bullpen, I doubt anyone would OPS much over .800.

It does get sorta boring watching 30-35 HRs lead the league almost every year though.
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Old 09-28-2021, 06:19 AM   #3
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Yup. It's woefully unbalanced at the moment.

To my inexpert eye the root problem seems to be the total dominance of the movement vs. contact mechanic over everything else to the extent that, with the possible exception of Avoid K's, makes everything else largely irrelevant. If power hitters get that power at the expense of light blue rather than dark blue contact (*) they are unplayable despite their moonshot capacity.

Dedicated relievers suffer a similar fate. I WANT to play them, I really do, but am currently fielding only one and that as a specialist. They might have pinpoint accuracy, three or four expert pitches and stuff coming out of their ears, but if that comes at the expense of a few points in movement, forget it - just stick in another starter instead.

(*) There are rather too many who seem to not know where each base is, hobble between them on one leg, and have no situational awareness whatsoever for my liking, as well.
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Old 09-28-2021, 09:41 AM   #4
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It has been like that for months. I guess in some ways it makes sense, if every hitter had to face a hall of fame pitcher in their prime, with other hall of famers in their prime coming out of the bullpen, I doubt anyone would OPS much over .800.

It does get sorta boring watching 30-35 HRs lead the league almost every year though.
Yes. I believe when you have too many remarkable players it averages the overall experience to be mediocre.

Like someone else said before, you can't come in Perfect Team expecting a baseball experience. It is, after all, just another gacha game, using baseball at the back end. For a baseball experience, that's what the base game is for.

To me, PT is only "truly" fun for the first month or so, when people are still trying to figure out their team and you see all kinds of lineup variations. After that the grind becomes too much (for me). This is not a complaint about being competitive. I just find that if you are not committed to the grind per say, the mode is very unsatisfying as a whole at the baseball level.
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:15 AM   #5
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Overall it is not the deadball situation that it seems like it is.

My current Diamond League is running at about 4.25 R/G and has a line of .256/.326/.400 (.726 OPS). That is almost dead on with the MLB in 1990 which had 4.26 R/G and a line of .258/.325/.385. That is pretty close to the historical norms. It’s a good bit lower than the peak of the steroid era but it is also way above truly pitcher dominated years like 1968 where the league had only 3.42 R/G and a .639 OPS.

Basically we have great hitters going up against great pitchers. The hitters’ stats aren’t as dominant as we are used to seeing but the same is true of the pitchers.
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:30 AM   #6
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Overall it is not the deadball situation that it seems like it is.

My current Diamond League is running at about 4.25 R/G and has a line of .256/.326/.400 (.726 OPS). That is almost dead on with the MLB in 1990 which had 4.26 R/G and a line of .258/.325/.385. That is pretty close to the historical norms. It’s a good bit lower than the peak of the steroid era but it is also way above truly pitcher dominated years like 1968 where the league had only 3.42 R/G and a .639 OPS.

Basically we have great hitters going up against great pitchers. The hitters stats aren’t as dominant as we are used to seeing but the same is true of the pitchers.
Yes there is definitely truth to that. The stats are there just more spread out equally among a team which isn't how real teams work - you have a few stars with big numbers but that is offset but some scrub/replacement level players on most teams. If these hitters all had the numbers they had during their prime years we'd be complaining all our pitchers have 5.8 ERAs.
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Old 09-29-2021, 02:26 PM   #7
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I don't have one single .800+ OPS player on my team so far this year. It's crazy how dominate the pitching and movement is.

My highest OPS is Freehan of all people at .750 OPS, 107 OPS+. Then Piazza at .741, Gherig .730 (and I don't even play him vs lefties), Kaline at .727, McGuire .720... Arky at .574 (and I don't play him vs lefties either).

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Old 09-29-2021, 02:29 PM   #8
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Yes there is definitely truth to that. The stats are there just more spread out equally among a team which isn't how real teams work - you have a few stars with big numbers but that is offset but some scrub/replacement level players on most teams. If these hitters all had the numbers they had during their prime years we'd be complaining all our pitchers have 5.8 ERAs.
I'm just comparing this to last year, where this wasn't even remotely true. It's clearly been pitcher / movement dominate this season, and runs are hard to come by. Also I guess the missions are easier to complete on the whole. I'm not 100% sure on that, but that's what I've read in here, so I'm sure that's creating more good players at all levels.
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