Player of the Game Logic

jslmsca · 05-03-2021, 01:00 AM

In a playoff game, the player of the game was a guy who hit 2 HR and had 7 RBI. Seems right? Except the pitcher on the same team threw a no-hitter! There wasn't even a mention of the no-hitter in the game summary.

Eugene Church · 05-03-2021, 02:44 PM

The game recaps needs a lot of work... they are not well-coded or well-written.

The AI picks the wrong POTG fairly often.

GoTribe · 05-03-2021, 06:59 PM

It would be great if the game would allow the POTG to be edited.

ChrisJNelson · 05-03-2021, 07:23 PM

Expanding on this, they also need to adjust how often in a modern sim that a player on the losing team wins series MVP to basically never. While this has happened in sports in the past, it's not really a thing that is likely to happen anymore.

beepollen · 05-03-2021, 08:40 PM

Seems there could be an algorithm written that combines straight-up WinEx with the game situation/Leverage Index, like Win Probability Added (WPA). Can even extend it to the performance's effect on the season, as seen in Championship WPA (cWPA).

For a great example, check out last season's NLCS. MVP honors went to Corey Seager: .301-5-11! Wooooo!!! However, his cWPA was -9.4%, second-worst among the hitters, and third-worst on the roster. Why? Well, check out the circumstances of those homers:
#1 - G2, grand slam in the 7th with the Dodgers trailing 7-0.
#2 - G3, solo shot in the third to turn a 12-run lead into a 13-run lead.
#3 and #4 - G5, his best performance of the series, with a solo homer in the fourth cutting LA's deficit to 2-1, then a two-run HR in the seventh giving the Dodgers a 7-2 lead.
#5 - G6, with one out in the bottom of the first, he puts LA ahead to stay, with Justin Turner following for b2b bombs.
Oh, in the crucial seventh game, Corey went 0-for-5.

Meanwhile, Julio Urias won G3 to keep the Dodgers from falling down 0-3, then threw a perfect 3 IP in G7 to close out the win. His cWPA: 19.62%

ChrisJNelson · 05-03-2021, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beepollen

Seems there could be an algorithm written that combines straight-up WinEx with the game situation/Leverage Index, like Win Probability Added (WPA). Can even extend it to the performance's effect on the season, as seen in Championship WPA (cWPA).

For a great example, check out last season's NLCS. MVP honors went to Corey Seager: .301-5-11! Wooooo!!! However, his cWPA was -9.4%, second-worst among the hitters, and third-worst on the roster. Why? Well, check out the circumstances of those homers:
#1 - G2, grand slam in the 7th with the Dodgers trailing 7-0.
#2 - G3, solo shot in the third to turn a 12-run lead into a 13-run lead.
#3 and #4 - G5, his best performance of the series, with a solo homer in the fourth cutting LA's deficit to 2-1, then a two-run HR in the seventh giving the Dodgers a 7-2 lead.
#5 - G6, with one out in the bottom of the first, he puts LA ahead to stay, with Justin Turner following for b2b bombs.
Oh, in the crucial seventh game, Corey went 0-for-5.

Meanwhile, Julio Urias won G3 to keep the Dodgers from falling down 0-3, then threw a perfect 3 IP in G7 to close out the win. His cWPA: 19.62%

While I agree with you on most deserving, it's important to remember that in reality, Seager did win the award, deserving or not. Therefore, the game probably shouldn't be so strictly analytic with its choices, because that isn't realistic.

fredbeene · 05-05-2021, 02:08 PM

Why can't POTG also be a player and team stat?
I want to sort all players, the past 3 seasons i have simmed by who has the most POTG.

05-03-2021, 01:00 AM	#1
jslmsca All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Calgary Posts: 560	Player of the Game Logic In a playoff game, the player of the game was a guy who hit 2 HR and had 7 RBI. Seems right? Except the pitcher on the same team threw a no-hitter! There wasn't even a mention of the no-hitter in the game summary.

05-03-2021, 02:44 PM	#2
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,749 Blog Entries: 1	The game recaps needs a lot of work... they are not well-coded or well-written. The AI picks the wrong POTG fairly often.

05-03-2021, 06:59 PM	#3
GoTribe Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 3	It would be great if the game would allow the POTG to be edited.

05-03-2021, 07:23 PM	#4
ChrisJNelson Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 316 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Expanding on this, they also need to adjust how often in a modern sim that a player on the losing team wins series MVP to basically never. While this has happened in sports in the past, it's not really a thing that is likely to happen anymore.

05-03-2021, 08:40 PM	#5
beepollen All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 885	Seems there could be an algorithm written that combines straight-up WinEx with the game situation/Leverage Index, like Win Probability Added (WPA). Can even extend it to the performance's effect on the season, as seen in Championship WPA (cWPA). For a great example, check out last season's NLCS. MVP honors went to Corey Seager: .301-5-11! Wooooo!!! However, his cWPA was -9.4%, second-worst among the hitters, and third-worst on the roster. Why? Well, check out the circumstances of those homers: #1 - G2, grand slam in the 7th with the Dodgers trailing 7-0. #2 - G3, solo shot in the third to turn a 12-run lead into a 13-run lead. #3 and #4 - G5, his best performance of the series, with a solo homer in the fourth cutting LA's deficit to 2-1, then a two-run HR in the seventh giving the Dodgers a 7-2 lead. #5 - G6, with one out in the bottom of the first, he puts LA ahead to stay, with Justin Turner following for b2b bombs. Oh, in the crucial seventh game, Corey went 0-for-5. Meanwhile, Julio Urias won G3 to keep the Dodgers from falling down 0-3, then threw a perfect 3 IP in G7 to close out the win. His cWPA: 19.62%

05-05-2021, 02:08 PM	#7
fredbeene All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,601 Blog Entries: 3 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Why can't POTG also be a player and team stat? I want to sort all players, the past 3 seasons i have simmed by who has the most POTG.