My Random Debut

[Beirnej1]

Just started a new Random Debut League here on OOTP21. Year 1 is 1901 with 18 teams broken down into two 9 team leagues. My stats output is set to 1990.

I am loving the Manthattan Liberty's 1-5 here. Looks like a lot of RBI's for Mattingly and Hill. Should be fun to see it play out.

[Beirnej1]

Here is Round 1 and 2 of the Inaugural Draft. I tried to control Rounds 1 and 2 to make sure the best players are being picked. I find it also helps me get attached and know the different teams by remembering who their best players are.

I imported a few Negro League players from the Sprtize database:

Bullet Rogan
Biz Mackey
Archie Ware

and the minor league database:

Walter Cannady (cannad000wal, 1921)
Max Manning (mannin000max, 1939)
Willie "Bill" Foster (foster049wil, 1924)
John Beckwith (beckwi000joh, 1919)
Oliver Marcell (marcel000oli, 1918)
Bienvenido Jimenez (jimene049bie, 1912)

You will notice a lot of the big names are all at the early parts of their careers. What I like to do is go through the pool and delete roughly 100 players and then reimport them back into the game starting at a younger point in their careers.

[Beirnej1]

Year 1 Preseason Predictions

[italyprof]

Beirnej1, your team looks fun and the league looks great. I like the 1989-1990 era for the stats.

But that leads me to a question: does anyone here understand how the stats modifications works when we use a different stats historical year from the current year?

I never know how to read them. If I use stats from a 26,28 or 30 team era but am playing with 16 teams, shouldn't all the modifiers merely be the correct percentage of the team difference (example: 16 divided by 28 then that multiplied against the 1990 totals)?

Instead they are sometimes all over the place. Home runs at 1.300 or something, whcih I don't know if it refers to that multiple of the 1990 totals or the totals of the year I am playing in which only 16 teams played, say 1958.

Thanks.

[Beirnej1]

Thanks, that is actually not "my" team. I am controlling the Hartford Huskies, but I play out multiple games a day. I play the Huskies games and then I real time/slow sim the others days games and jump into interesting pitching matchups.

I am loving playing out Sandy Koufax (Charleston Shiners), Vida Blue (Memphis Kings) and Randy Johnson (St. Paul Jacks) starts too.



I am not really sure about the settings. I chose 1990 to start because after some test sims it appears to give me the leaderboard I am looking for.

[Beirnej1]

Year 1 April Update

The first month in the Legends Baseball League inaugural season has been completed.



Atlantic League April Awards




Pacific League April Awards

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by Beirnej1

Just started a new Random Debut League here on OOTP21. Year 1 is 1901 with 18 teams broken down into two 9 team leagues. My stats output is set to 1990.

I am loving the Manthattan Liberty's 1-5 here. Looks like a lot of RBI's for Mattingly and Hill. Should be fun to see it play out.

Sweet lineup by career wRC+:

Gardner 104
Vaughan 138
Hamilton (assuming we're talking 1888-1901 Hamilton): 142
Mattingly 124
Hill 110
Keltner 110
Grote 83
LaPorte 108
Schilling 68

I'd probably run out:

Hamilton
Vaughan
Hill
Mattingly
Keltner
LaPorte
Grote
Schilling
Gardner

Gardner/Hamilton at #9 and #1 will create an on base track meet of epic proportions. Throw another on base machine in Vaughan at #2 into the #9, #1, #2 trio, and 1) the opposing pitchers will be going nuts, and 2) your three best power hitters will be coming up immediately following the 9-1-2 hitters. Hill is your best power hitter bar none. Crazy pop. Keltner and Mattingly are pretty similar in terms of pop, but Mattingly's the better hitter. LaPorte played in the dead ball era, so he's much better than you might think when looking at his career slash line, and Grote and Schilling are the only sub-average players in the lineup. That is one crazy good/great lineup. A force to be reckoned with for sure. Probably this is an AI lineup if I read your post right though, and my suggestion won't make much of a difference, but that's how I'd roll them out if I was in charge.

I have one suggestion in terms of your modifiers if you're using 1990 as your base year. Remember to set the BABIP before each season to .287. The game probably has it around .290, but IRL it was .287. I think this BABIP inflation probably heats up the offensive output a bit. At least that's what I've seen over the last five versions or so (it started in 17 I think - OOTP16 was amazing for league stats output).

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by italyprof

Beirnej1, your team looks fun and the league looks great. I like the 1989-1990 era for the stats.

But that leads me to a question: does anyone here understand how the stats modifications works when we use a different stats historical year from the current year?

I never know how to read them. If I use stats from a 26,28 or 30 team era but am playing with 16 teams, shouldn't all the modifiers merely be the correct percentage of the team difference (example: 16 divided by 28 then that multiplied against the 1990 totals)?

Instead they are sometimes all over the place. Home runs at 1.300 or something, whcih I don't know if it refers to that multiple of the 1990 totals or the totals of the year I am playing in which only 16 teams played, say 1958.

Thanks.

League wide stats output should work that way, and the league leaders should be somewhere in the range that they were in the year you're using (1989 [reset to .283 BABIP], or 1990 [reset to .287 BABIP]. For example, I use 1984 [reset to .286 BABIP].

What's really helpful to see if the league wide totals are working is to use team offense and pitching/defense averages from the year in question. I also use 162 game schedules for all seasons, which makes it easier for me to compare against 1984 outputs. In 1984, the slash line was .260/.323/.385/.708, with a R/G of 4.26. The average team scored 689 R, recorded 1438 H, 239 doubles, 38 triples, 125 HR, 645 RBI, 117 SB, 58 CS, 512 BB, and 865 K. 2128 total bases were recorded on average, along with 123 GDP, 26 HBP, 55 SH, and 49 SF.

League ERA was 3.80 with 24 CG, 38 SV, 1450 IP, 613 ER, 11 BK, 43 WP, a 1.34 WHIP, 8.9 H/9, 0.8 HR/9, 3.2 BB/9, 5.4 K/9, and a 1.69 K/BB rate. The Defensive Efficiency was .699, and the FPct was .978.

It's really, really hard to hit 40 HR in my leagues because only one guy (Tony Armas with 43) did it in a 26 team league. I start back in 1901, so that's only a sixteen team league, which makes it even more difficult. Hell, it's really hard to hit 30 HR in my leagues. Only ten did it IRL, which projects to six in a sixteen team league. Other numbers: Only 13 guys scored 100 runs, which projects to eight in 1901-1960 leagues. 13 100 RBI guys = 8 in those leagues. 27 30 double guys = 17 in those leagues. 13 guys with 10 triples = 8 guys. 22 guys with 30 SB or more = 14 guys. Strikeouts always have way more guys in the 100 K list in OOTP for some reason. 27 guys did that IRL, meaning 17 should do it in OOTP.

I use normal injuries, and high position player fatigue in my games, and it seems to keep guys plate appearance totals in the right area. That's also important for keeping leaders numbers in line. Obviously, the more PA they get, the higher their raw totals can go, and this seems to work.

Not sure about the league modifiers though. I don't think I've ever seen a HR modifier on the scale of 1.300, and 1984 is pretty close to 1989-1990 in terms of HR. 1984: 125 per team, 1989: 119 per team, and 1990: 128 per team. My HR modifier in the season I just ran on OOTPXX was .495, and my average HR/team was 122, which is basically where I'd expect it to be. I hope Beirnej1 doesn't mind if I hijack his RD thread, but here are my hitting and pitching leaders from my most recent year (1902 in this case):

[actionjackson]

Just noticed Beirnej1 that you either reset your league BABIP to .287, or the game had it that way out of the box. Either way...

[italyprof]

Thank you. It's helpful to have your experience in having a different historical and calendar year. I am going to watch the modifier numbers closely and see what they do and report back if I see anything weird. Your league is very cool and is working out great.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by italyprof

Thank you. It's helpful to have your experience in having a different historical and calendar year. I am going to watch the modifier numbers closely and see what they do and report back if I see anything weird. Your league is very cool and is working out great.

In case I haven't beaten it to death yet, don't forget to reset the BABIP when you set your stats output to the year you want it to be. You can find the RL BABIP from 1904-2019 here:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...LB/pitch.shtml

[Beirnej1]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

Sweet lineup by career wRC+:

Gardner 104
Vaughan 138
Hamilton (assuming we're talking 1888-1901 Hamilton): 142
Mattingly 124
Hill 110
Keltner 110
Grote 83
LaPorte 108
Schilling 68

I'd probably run out:

Hamilton
Vaughan
Hill
Mattingly
Keltner
LaPorte
Grote
Schilling
Gardner

Gardner/Hamilton at #9 and #1 will create an on base track meet of epic proportions. Throw another on base machine in Vaughan at #2 into the #9, #1, #2 trio, and 1) the opposing pitchers will be going nuts, and 2) your three best power hitters will be coming up immediately following the 9-1-2 hitters. Hill is your best power hitter bar none. Crazy pop. Keltner and Mattingly are pretty similar in terms of pop, but Mattingly's the better hitter. LaPorte played in the dead ball era, so he's much better than you might think when looking at his career slash line, and Grote and Schilling are the only sub-average players in the lineup. That is one crazy good/great lineup. A force to be reckoned with for sure. Probably this is an AI lineup if I read your post right though, and my suggestion won't make much of a difference, but that's how I'd roll them out if I was in charge.

I have one suggestion in terms of your modifiers if you're using 1990 as your base year. Remember to set the BABIP before each season to .287. The game probably has it around .290, but IRL it was .287. I think this BABIP inflation probably heats up the offensive output a bit. At least that's what I've seen over the last five versions or so (it started in 17 I think - OOTP16 was amazing for league stats output).

Yes you have the right Hamilton, who is 27 (so his 1893 season).
I do not control Manhattan - much any way. Even though my team is Hartford I want to make sure each team is as competitive as possible. Just enjoying the league as it progresses and kinda of playing in commissioner mode.

I just checked and the AI just changed the lineup here on May 2nd to this:



Yes I remember you talking about the BAPIP issue and I did bump that down to .287 before the season started. Through May I am enjoying the stats output so far.

Glad to see you back and posting. Always enjoyed hearing about yours and David Watts leagues!

[Beirnej1]

I should mention, I am using 1990 as my stats base but with some adjustments.

I use Low starting pitchers stamina.

I am more of a modern day guy so my goal for starting pitchers was between 200 - 245 ish innings pitched in a season. I love closers and the save. I don't mind relievers, but not to the extreme like today so that is my thought process on my year I chose to start off with and some of my settings.

I also use extremely low for injuries and High position player fatigue.

Through some of my test sims the numbers have been pretty good, fingers crossed as it has taken me about a month real time to play through the first month of Year 1.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by Beirnej1

Yes you have the right Hamilton, who is 27 (so his 1893 season).
I do not control Manhattan - much any way. Even though my team is Hartford I want to make sure each team is as competitive as possible. Just enjoying the league as it progresses and kinda of playing in commissioner mode.

I just checked and the AI just changed the lineup here on May 2nd to this:

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Yes I remember you talking about the BAPIP issue and I did bump that down to .287 before the season started. Through May I am enjoying the stats output so far.

Glad to see you back and posting. Always enjoyed hearing about yours and David Watts leagues!

McLemore will be a better hitter than Schilling at 2B (who wouldn't be?), but is anything being given up on defense? Nailed the top 5 in the lineup! WOOO!!! Where did LaPorte go?

[Beirnej1]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

McLemore will be a better hitter than Schilling at 2B (who wouldn't be?), but is anything being given up on defense? Nailed the top 5 in the lineup! WOOO!!! Where did LaPorte go?

LaPorte is on the bench (.278, 1 HR, 5 RBI)
Carl Warwick took his place in Right hitting 7th.
Schilling got bumped to the reserve roster (.144, 0 HR, 5 RBI)

I also forgot to mention who Manhattan has on their bench.
The 3rd overall pick in the inaugural draft

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by Beirnej1

LaPorte is on the bench (.278, 1 HR, 5 RBI)
Carl Warwick took his place in Right hitting 7th.
Schilling got bumped to the reserve roster (.144, 0 HR, 5 RBI)

I also forgot to mention who Manhattan has on their bench.
The 3rd overall pick in the inaugural draft

So, Mattingly's shagging fly balls for the inevitable position switch then? That LaPorte to the bench decision makes no sense to me. Career wRC+:

LaPorte 108
Warwick 87

Bizarre.

[Beirnej1]

May 19th, Year 1- The first 3 home run game

Brandon Moss of the Cape Coral Hammerheads becomes the first player in Legends Baseball League history to hit 3 home runs in a single game.






Brandon Moss was selected by Cape Coral in the 15th round, 264th overall pick in the inaugural draft. He currently leads the league in home runs with 15 through the teams first 44 games.

[Beirnej1]

So thinking of making an update to my league settings.

My plan was to use extremely low injuries for the entirety of this league however I am having second thoughts. Through the first two months of play there has been one injury so far.

Baton Rouge lost P Wayne Garland for 13 months with a ruptured UCL.

My thoughts moving forward in this league is to increase the injury frequency to very low for the months of June and July only and then come August I will bump it back down to extremely low.

Also, what is everyones thoughts on trading in their random debuts? I have mine turned off during the regular season. Has anyone seen trading that makes sense?

I am debating on turning on trading during the off season only, from January 1st to March 1st each year - but have not decided yet, there is time.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Beirnej1

So thinking of making an update to my league settings.

My plan was to use extremely low injuries for the entirety of this league however I am having second thoughts. Through the first two months of play there has been one injury so far.

Baton Rouge lost P Wayne Garland for 13 months with a ruptured UCL.

My thoughts moving forward in this league is to increase the injury frequency to very low for the months of June and July only and then come August I will bump it back down to extremely low.

Also, what is everyones thoughts on trading in their random debuts? I have mine turned off during the regular season. Has anyone seen trading that makes sense?

I am debating on turning on trading during the off season only, from January 1st to March 1st each year - but have not decided yet, there is time.

Oh man, I couldn't play without trading on. Even trades that don't make sense make the game fun for me. I use average for my trade setting. I enjoy player movement and the storylines it creates.

[Beirnej1]

Good point, lets give it a try.

Starting May 29th Year 1, trading has been enabled to very low and favor prospects.

Coming June 1st Year 1, injury frequency will be increased to very low.

Lets see what happens