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Old 12-22-2020, 06:05 PM   #1
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Will AI release players during draft if there is a roster limit?

Ok, I have a league with a strict 60 player cap, split between two levels.

I have my first draft coming up after my first season.

I'm wondering as the draft proceeds through the rounds if teams will release lower rated players to make room for better draft picks? Or will they simply stop drafting if they are at the roster limit? I'm hoping the former.

Thanks a bunch!
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:17 AM   #2
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Drafted players temporarily go into the Designated for Assignment area of team rosters and transactions, under the tab called Waivers and DFA. They can be there for up to 7 days by default. Teams can then assign those players to the active roster, assign them to a minor league roster, arrange a trade, or release them. If they need to create room to assign them, they will likely make those moves during the DFA period.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:21 AM   #3
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Drafted players temporarily go into the Designated for Assignment area of team rosters and transactions, under the tab called Waivers and DFA. They can be there for up to 7 days by default. Teams can then assign those players to the active roster, assign them to a minor league roster, arrange a trade, or release them. If they need to create room to assign them, they will likely make those moves during the DFA period.
Are you sure about this? I've never played a league where rosters may have been full at the time of the draft, so my experience may not be relevant. That said, every league I've been in, the draftees have been automatically placed on a minor league roster after the were drafted or after they signed, if they were demanding a bonus. Never have I seen a draftee on the DFA screen.
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Old 12-23-2020, 12:11 PM   #4
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Are you sure about this? I've never played a league where rosters may have been full at the time of the draft, so my experience may not be relevant. That said, every league I've been in, the draftees have been automatically placed on a minor league roster after the were drafted or after they signed, if they were demanding a bonus. Never have I seen a draftee on the DFA screen.
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Old 12-23-2020, 07:41 PM   #5
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Are you sure about this? I've never played a league where rosters may have been full at the time of the draft, so my experience may not be relevant. That said, every league I've been in, the draftees have been automatically placed on a minor league roster after the were drafted or after they signed, if they were demanding a bonus. Never have I seen a draftee on the DFA screen.
You probably never see this because the AI probably processes all the required transactions right away, so draftees never appear on the DFA screen for those teams. But the OOTP manual says that any newly acquired players, including draftees, go to the DFA screen if they need to be assigned. For the human user, they will probably appear there, but the AI probably assigns them right away, so you never get to see that intermediate step.
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Old 12-24-2020, 10:14 AM   #6
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You probably never see this because the AI probably processes all the required transactions right away, so draftees never appear on the DFA screen for those teams. But the OOTP manual says that any newly acquired players, including draftees, go to the DFA screen if they need to be assigned. For the human user, they will probably appear there, but the AI probably assigns them right away, so you never get to see that intermediate step.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. They don't go to the DFA screen for my team or AI teams. I handle all transactions for my organization.
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Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. They don't go to the DFA screen for my team or AI teams. I handle all transactions for my organization.
Okay, then maybe this has been changed and the manual needs to be updated. My current league uses only reserve lists, and draftees immediately go into my reserve list. But I don't know exactly what happens if teams reach the reserve list limit. Mine hasn't, but some others have.
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Okay, then maybe this has been changed and the manual needs to be updated. My current league uses only reserve lists, and draftees immediately go into my reserve list. But I don't know exactly what happens if teams reach the reserve list limit. Mine hasn't, but some others have.
It's unfortunate just how much info is incorrect in the manual. I stopped referring to it except in very rare cases years ago. I know attempts have been made to update it, but as we see with this instance, it's not perfect.
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Old 12-24-2020, 04:07 PM   #9
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I set up a league to mimic the one I asked the questions about: Two league levels, strict roster limits, Financials OFF.

It looks like teams will draft players in every round of the amateur draft and then hold onto to the draftees that "make the team" and make room for them by releasing other lower rated players on the roster. If a draftee doesn't make the team they are released.

So, in other words the AI does what I was hoping it would do. It keeps the best players and releases the others.

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Old 12-25-2020, 03:54 AM   #10
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Can't say if it is different for the AI but my teams always have draftees appear in the lowest level of my minors. I have never had a problem with it because my rookie leagues start after the draft. So while there is a roster limit it doesn't really apply until day 1 of the league. AI will make cuts on or before day 1 of games in the league.

I haven't noticed irregularities in who is cut in this version with caps on the lowest level. Now if your lowest level starts before the draft I really don't know. I assume they would make cuts after the draft and before the next games start to sim so they wouldn't have an illegal number of players on their lowest teams. I assume they may cut some guys at a higher level if a draftee is deemed ready for a higher level by the AI algorithm or they could cut lowest and move down eligible higher level players. I guess that would depend on the situation.

Generally in the minors as a human you can have more guys at any level other than the roster limit before you sim the next day or play the day's game if you don't fix the sim should stop telling you have an illegal number of players at that level. You can have extra players in the offseason until the games sim. I sometimes have 50 or 60 players in my rookie team capped at 35 and it isn't an issue until game day when the game checks if you have a legal number of players.

I don't think there is anyway to skip a draft pick in the amatuer draft. I have seen nothing really but junk left and a full team but never seen a way to choose none of the above. Sometimes I will just draft guys who are impossible or have a demand for money if my lower league is full before the draft is over. Then I won't offer them so they don't sign. So I am 90% sure the AI team will keep drafting and make cuts sometime before the next sim when it has to meet limits. That might be when you sim to the next day after the draft or a few days later the when the league starts.

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