Closer Stamina less than 4

Bobfather · 11-05-2020, 11:38 PM

I have been shopping around for another closer. The two best available have stamina of 1 and 4. I think this is just too limiting. A couple of long at-bats and he might not finish an inning? And what is the bounce back? What do you think? Thank you.

CBeisbol · 11-05-2020, 11:45 PM

Well, first, what scale are you using?

1-5, imagine you'll be fine
1-100 would be a little different

Is this an established league with a history?

How many pitches have they been able to throw in their previous gsmes?
How many days do they have between appearances?

There's a lot of information sitting there waiting for you to look at it

Bobfather · 11-06-2020, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Well, first, what scale are you using?

1-5, imagine you'll be fine
1-100 would be a little different

Is this an established league with a history?

How many pitches have they been able to throw in their previous games?
How many days do they have between appearances?

There's a lot of information sitting there waiting for you to look at it

1-100 Rating. League is in season 7. The first week of this season. I play out every game, for my team.

ALB123 · 11-06-2020, 12:55 AM

1 & 4 out of 100?!?! I think I'd be hitting the Shop Around button if I were in your shoes.

CBeisbol · 11-06-2020, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobfather

1-100 Rating. League is in season 7. The first week of this season. I play out every game, for my team.

Ok, I never use that scale

But there's data for them

How many pitchers are they throwing per outing?
And how many games/innings are they throwing a season?

You have information to use

Juggernt · 11-06-2020, 09:47 AM

I had a 4 stamina closer, limited him to 8 hitters any time he came in, and he was fine. His stuff was amazing (125, movement 60, control 55), with three pitches Fastball 110, Sinker 81, Slider 96) groundball power pitcher with velocity 100+ (clearly I have ratings over 100 visible). Three seasons of 43 saves, 2.14, .79 WHIP, 18/8 K/9; 53 saves, 9.89 ERA, .73 WHIP, 17.1 K/9; 40 saves (3.10 ERA, 1.13 WHIP as walks rose to 4.6/9 and 16.4/K9).

Dave Stieb II · 11-06-2020, 02:08 PM

I'm missing something here because these ratings and results, along with those of the OP, make absolutely no sense to me.
In my standard games (and this has been fairly consistent for the four years I've been purchasing OOTP) I use the 20-80 ratings scale.
A reliever with 30/80 stamina would have to be very effective and 'pitch efficient' to last anywhere close to 8 batters.
I play out all my MLB games pitch by pitch but I'm posting my ratings for comparison sake only.
In the leagues I play, I can't imagine relievers with 1/100 or 4/100 stamina lasting more than one batter.

Matt Arnold · 11-06-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I'm missing something here because these ratings and results, along with those of the OP, make absolutely no sense to me.
In my standard games (and this has been fairly consistent for the four years I've been purchasing OOTP) I use the 20-80 ratings scale.
A reliever with 30/80 stamina would have to be very effective and 'pitch efficient' to last anywhere close to 8 batters.
I play out all my MLB games pitch by pitch but I'm posting my ratings for comparison sake only.
In the leagues I play, I can't imagine relievers with 1/100 or 4/100 stamina lasting more than one batter.

8 batters might be stretching it, but even a 1/100 stamina fully rested should still be able to give about 20 pitches, maybe more or less depending on your league stamina/fatigue settings.

Problems obviously are that even if rested he could do 20 pitches, any fatigue on him and he might start to struggle to even get 1 inning in. Might be a good option to use in short stints, get out of an inning with a couple outs and a runner on or whatnot, but gotta be careful using him to close a game for sure.

11-05-2020, 11:38 PM	#1
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,806	Closer Stamina less than 4 I have been shopping around for another closer. The two best available have stamina of 1 and 4. I think this is just too limiting. A couple of long at-bats and he might not finish an inning? And what is the bounce back? What do you think? Thank you.

11-06-2020, 12:55 AM	#4
ALB123 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 638	1 & 4 out of 100?!?! I think I'd be hitting the Shop Around button if I were in your shoes. __________________ "I'm on the side that's always lost against the side of Heaven. I'm on the side of snake-eyes tossed against the side of seven" - Leonard Cohen "The Captain"

11-05-2020, 11:45 PM	#2
CBeisbol Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Ban land in 3...2... Posts: 2,943	Well, first, what scale are you using? 1-5, imagine you'll be fine 1-100 would be a little different Is this an established league with a history? How many pitches have they been able to throw in their previous gsmes? How many days do they have between appearances? There's a lot of information sitting there waiting for you to look at it

11-06-2020, 09:47 AM	#6
Juggernt Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 357	I had a 4 stamina closer, limited him to 8 hitters any time he came in, and he was fine. His stuff was amazing (125, movement 60, control 55), with three pitches Fastball 110, Sinker 81, Slider 96) groundball power pitcher with velocity 100+ (clearly I have ratings over 100 visible). Three seasons of 43 saves, 2.14, .79 WHIP, 18/8 K/9; 53 saves, 9.89 ERA, .73 WHIP, 17.1 K/9; 40 saves (3.10 ERA, 1.13 WHIP as walks rose to 4.6/9 and 16.4/K9).

11-06-2020, 02:08 PM	#7
Dave Stieb II All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 661	I'm missing something here because these ratings and results, along with those of the OP, make absolutely no sense to me. In my standard games (and this has been fairly consistent for the four years I've been purchasing OOTP) I use the 20-80 ratings scale. A reliever with 30/80 stamina would have to be very effective and 'pitch efficient' to last anywhere close to 8 batters. I play out all my MLB games pitch by pitch but I'm posting my ratings for comparison sake only. In the leagues I play, I can't imagine relievers with 1/100 or 4/100 stamina lasting more than one batter.