pitchers

jdolecek49 · 10-14-2020, 03:14 PM

trying to understand pitching ratings, i understand stamina but what is stuff and movement? i see pitchers in a 1-20 scale that have a stuff rating of 20 but their movement is 5, so are those going to be decent pitchers?

CBeisbol · 10-14-2020, 03:19 PM

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Biggio509 · 10-15-2020, 04:16 AM

Movement affects home runs given up.
Stuff determines ability to get Ks.
Control determines walks given up.

Can't really answer if 5 will be a good pitcher. It isn't uncommon for high stuff guys to have lower movement. Strike out pitchers often give up more home runs. 5 isn't good but it is accurate? Also are you ok with a guy who will lead the league in strike outs but give up quite a few HRs. This is where looking at the stats comes in. If it is low movement and control unless they are doing well in the minors I would be weary of the pitcher. If movement is horrible but they have good stuff and control maybe? I would pay close attention to stats on this guy. Also consider your park. If it is deadball era this guy might be really good. If you play in a big park about half his starts won't be as bad for HRs. He will still give up a lot of HRs comparatively but if his WHIP is low you might get by with that.

Also what is your offense like. Do you expect a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 wins or do expect to score 3 or 4 runs a game? All of that makes a difference.

Same goes with groundball guys. How good is your D? A low stuff high movement and high control guy might not do well with a bad D since the ball is going to be in play a lot more. While a power high K guy with less control and movement might do just fine.

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10-15-2020, 04:16 AM	#3
Biggio509 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,027	Movement affects home runs given up. Stuff determines ability to get Ks. Control determines walks given up. Can't really answer if 5 will be a good pitcher. It isn't uncommon for high stuff guys to have lower movement. Strike out pitchers often give up more home runs. 5 isn't good but it is accurate? Also are you ok with a guy who will lead the league in strike outs but give up quite a few HRs. This is where looking at the stats comes in. If it is low movement and control unless they are doing well in the minors I would be weary of the pitcher. If movement is horrible but they have good stuff and control maybe? I would pay close attention to stats on this guy. Also consider your park. If it is deadball era this guy might be really good. If you play in a big park about half his starts won't be as bad for HRs. He will still give up a lot of HRs comparatively but if his WHIP is low you might get by with that. Also what is your offense like. Do you expect a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 wins or do expect to score 3 or 4 runs a game? All of that makes a difference. Same goes with groundball guys. How good is your D? A low stuff high movement and high control guy might not do well with a bad D since the ball is going to be in play a lot more. While a power high K guy with less control and movement might do just fine.