Thrown out at 3rd

[kriscolic]

Runners get thrown out trying to stretch doubles to triples at some pretty ridiculous times. Twice in the last 5 games I've played: Brett Tomko leading off, team down a run in the 5th; Ryan Howard with two outs, team down 2 runs in the 9th (yes, to end the game). Pitchers and slow runners do not behave this way in real life, especially not in these circumstances. "Never make the first or third out in an inning at third" is drilled into every ballplayer from pony ball. The third base coach would be apoplectic in either of these cases. C'mon guys...

[Brad K]

Yesterday I had a player round second then change his mind about going for third. He got tagged out in a run down.

[Brad K]

"Never make the first or third out in an inning at third" is drilled into every ballplayer from pony ball."

Yet that doesn't mean never try for third with no outs or two outs. So you should expect to have the first or third out occur at third on occasion.

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by kriscolic

Runners get thrown out trying to stretch doubles to triples at some pretty ridiculous times. Twice in the last 5 games I've played: Brett Tomko leading off, team down a run in the 5th; Ryan Howard with two outs, team down 2 runs in the 9th (yes, to end the game). Pitchers and slow runners do not behave this way in real life, especially not in these circumstances. "Never make the first or third out in an inning at third" is drilled into every ballplayer from pony ball. The third base coach would be apoplectic in either of these cases. C'mon guys...

You can change the setting so you control base running if you wish.

When I get frustrated with my third base coach that’s what I do. Until I get bored/lazy with it and turn the setting off again.

[kriscolic]

Originally Posted by mytreds

You can change the setting so you control base running if you wish.

When I get frustrated with my third base coach that’s what I do. Until I get bored/lazy with it and turn the setting off again.

Oh? I wasn't aware. Can you tell me where to find that option?

[mytreds]

If you manually play your games it’s in the options tab.

[kriscolic]

Oh that setting. Yeah I have that set appropriately. Game doesn't give me the option all of the time.

[kriscolic]

And just to revisit, Kenji Johjima just got thrown out trying to stretch a double to a triple for the second time in 4 games. First time for last out of an inning, second time for first out. Kenji Johjima had 1 triple in 1722 career plate appearances.

C'mon...

[kriscolic]

Originally Posted by Brad K

"Never make the first or third out in an inning at third" is drilled into every ballplayer from pony ball."

Yet that doesn't mean never try for third with no outs or two outs. So you should expect to have the first or third out occur at third on occasion.

Sorry, not Brett Tomko or Ryan Howard. Some players yes, of course. Not these guys.

[beepollen]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Yesterday I had a player round second then change his mind about going for third. He got tagged out in a run down.

Been playing since April, but have yet to see a rundown.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by beepollen

Been playing since April, but have yet to see a rundown.

They're rare. But the 3d is a little funny when it happens (I sometimes take some creative liberties on those rare plays). If anyone sees one, I encourage you to share videos

[Greenbay]

I haven't seen a rundown either. Now I'm going to hope for one. It does seem like I'm seeing more runners getting thrown out at third than in previous versions. But in real life MLB players are not as smart as they used to be. rules like, "never make the first or last out at 3rd" don't seem to apply anymore. So I guess the bad baserunning is realistic.

[CBeisbol]

I saw one once

I don't remember the animation, just thinking "what on earth was that" then reading it in the PbP

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

I saw one once

I don't remember the animation, just thinking "what on earth was that" then reading it in the PbP

If it was earlier in the cycle, there may not have been an animation. I fixed up the rundown stuff in one of the post-release patches.

[curt]

Look at this one. First time seeing this for me. My guy hit a triple and fell for the hidden ball trick. You'll have to zoom in to read the PBP

[kriscolic]

This just occurred to me, and, honestly, I'm not sure if this is accurate or not, so please bear with me...

A player begins an at bat as a base runner, the ball is put into play, there is a base running decision to be made concerning that base runner, I may or may not be given control over that base runner's decision.

A player begins an at bat as the batter, he gets a hit, I am not given control over the batter's (now the base runner's) subsequent decisions.

Do I have that right? In other words, when a batter gets a hit, are his subsequent base running decisions never up to me? I having trouble thinking of a counter example, but I haven't really been paying attention.

[Art Deco]

I had a rundown today in my Rays save, the runner got into third safe, which is the same thing that happened in the one other rundown I've seen over the past few months.

[mytreds]

I had a rundown a week or so ago! Really cool to see!

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by kriscolic

This just occurred to me, and, honestly, I'm not sure if this is accurate or not, so please bear with me...

A player begins an at bat as a base runner, the ball is put into play, there is a base running decision to be made concerning that base runner, I may or may not be given control over that base runner's decision.

A player begins an at bat as the batter, he gets a hit, I am not given control over the batter's (now the base runner's) subsequent decisions.

Do I have that right? In other words, when a batter gets a hit, are his subsequent base running decisions never up to me? I having trouble thinking of a counter example, but I haven't really been paying attention.

If you have control over base running, you will be given the decision to advance the lead running only. The decision happens when the play will be close one way or another. You will not get decisions for standard advancement that require no close calls.

[kriscolic]

Originally Posted by mytreds

If you have control over base running, you will be given the decision to advance the lead running only. The decision happens when the play will be close one way or another. You will not get decisions for standard advancement that require no close calls.

Thanks. I think that's an odd choice (not giving control over more than one runner), but whatever.