Minor League Affiliates

[DRogers522]

I am new to the game and just completed a season. Two of my minor league affiliates have disappeared. I lost my AA Southern League team and my ADV A league. They have been assigned new major league teams, so I assumed they would assign new ones to me. But it hasn't happened yet. One team now has 2 AA teams. When I changed one of them to mine, it kept the other teams players. I can't find anywhere online how to fix this. Can Anyone help?

[WIUPIKE]

What type of mode are you playing in. Historical, Fictional, MLB quickstart?

[ALB123]

Are you playing a Historical simulation? That's what I play, and I can tell you that minor league teams occasionally do come and go. My very first season as a GM was 1981 and when 1983 began I noticed that I had lost TWO of my lower level minor league teams. I did not lose the players, however, they were just thrown onto the roster of a different minor league team of mine. 1984 came along and I got my lowest level GCL team back.

If you are ever curious, baseball-reference does a great job of listing even MLB club's minor league affiliates throughout the years. Here is the page for the NY Yankees: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...ate.cgi?id=NYY

Take a look at their minor league teams for 1948. Yup. That's right... 24 minor league clubs. Crazy...

If you are playing anything other than Historic, I can't help you there...I've never played anything but Historic. Good luck!

[DRogers522]

I'm playing historical

[DRogers522]

Originally Posted by WIUPIKE

What type of mode are you playing in. Historical, Fictional, MLB quickstart?

Playing historical. I know the new affiliate is supposed to be, i see how to assign it... but I don't know how to get rid of the players on the team that is currently assigned there...and give them to that organizations "real" affiliate.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by DRogers522

I'm playing historical

So, assuming they did it right, you're seeing whatever happened to your team's affiliates from one team to another. At one point there were 500+ minor league teams, and some (Cardinals, Yankees) had dozens of affiliates and even whole leagues. I've not played historical, so I don't know what this looks like in OOTP, but...

I love Mike McCann's Minor League History page- you can see who had what affiliates in what league during which year. You'll see how much upheaval there is from year to year, and note that whole leagues got reclassified from time to time.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by DRogers522

I'm playing historical

Yeah, unfortunately, what happened to you is what happened in real life. Like I said when you lost those two teams you did not lose the players that were on those two teams. The computer should have moved all of those players to your rookie league roster. As far as I know, from my own experience, that's where my players end up when I would lose a minor league affiliate.

Would you mind sharing what team you control and what year you're in?

As far as manually moving players to another team that you don't work for, the only way that I can think of would be to manually move one at a time via the Player Editor. If you go onto the Player's Profile page of the person you want to move, look at the row of pages you can select, like Batting Stats & Ratings. All the way to the right just after the page History should be a page labeled Editor. Go into the Editor for that player and look on the left side section of options & settings and look for "No League Selected". Click that, its a drop-down menu. Select the name of the league which has the team you're moving the player to. After selecting the proper League, a new empty drop-down menu will appear. Click that and select the Team you want to put that player on. Now rinse and repeat for every player. OR maybe try moving the team back from where you took it. I mean, make it affiliated with the proper team. That will probably do it much faster.

I can understand your frustration at losing two teams from different minor league levels, but sometimes that can be a blessing in disguise, especially when you're new to all of this. You have two less teams to take care of and possibly distract you from paying better attention to your MLB squad, AAA or AA teams. One downside, however, is that you're probably going to have to cut quite a few players by using "Release Player".

Rookie league teams often have a lot of players - most of them suck, but I still like to give everyone at least two seasons before I release them, unless they are just really, really, really bad. So bad that you're questioning your Scouting Director if that kid ever even played organized baseball before the draft?

You'll get the hang of it. I did and I'm stupid. Just ask around.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

I love Mike McCann's Minor League History page- you can see who had what affiliates in what league during which year. You'll see how much upheaval there is from year to year, and note that whole leagues got reclassified from time to time.

Check this out: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r.../affiliate.cgi

Click on any team name and it'll give you the entire list of minor league affiliates that team had year by year. Look at the totals in parenthesis each year...pay attention to 1948 or 1949 seasons. Many teams had absurd numbers then. The Yankees had 21 farm clubs, the Brooklyn Dodgers had 26...etc. That's nuts.

Just for kicks, I created a new saved game yesterday as the NYY GM in 1948. Sure enough, OOTP21 had all 21 farm clubs waiting for me. Talk about a nightmare. Whenever I end up doing a real saved game that transpires around that time, I'm going to have to ask the OOTP Veterans for tips on how they handled that stuff. I spend an unhealthy amount of time on OOTP now with only 7 farm clubs to manage. I don't know how the heck I could run an MLB team AND all 21 affiliates.

[DRogers522]

The upcoming season is the 2017 Mariners. It did move all my players to rookie league. My AA team is SUPPOSED to be Arkansas... but they gave that Angels. The Diamondbacks my Jackson Affiliate AND they got Mobile. So, I was going to just Take Mobile to make it simple. I guess I will try moving all those players to DBacks new Jackson affiliate. I just don't want to do this every offseason!!! Thanks for the Advice.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by DRogers522

The upcoming season is the 2017 Mariners. It did move all my players to rookie league. My AA team is SUPPOSED to be Arkansas... but they gave that Angels. The Diamondbacks my Jackson Affiliate AND they got Mobile. So, I was going to just Take Mobile to make it simple. I guess I will try moving all those players to DBacks new Jackson affiliate. I just don't want to do this every offseason!!! Thanks for the Advice.

Yikes! This is what I found out...

So, in real life, in 2017 The Mariners are supposed to have Arkansas for their AA team. Jackson & Mobile do not belong to Seattle in 2017.

The Mariners didn't own Arkansas AA in 2016, the LA Angels owned Arkansas in 2016.

In 2016 Seattle's AA affiliate was Jackson, but in 2017 Jackson belongs to the Arizona Diamondbacks.

And for 2017 the Los Angeles Angels has Mobile as their AA affiliate.

Here is a list of Seattle's Minor League clubs year by year:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...ate.cgi?id=SEA

Here is a list of every MLB team's farm clubs for 2017:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r....cgi?year=2017

Honestly, I think everything was exactly as it was supposed to be and you shouldn't have made any changes whatsoever. I could be wrong, but re-reading your original post...I think everything was set up properly. You just lost 2 clubs and gained 1.

It can be confusing when minor league teams go from one MLB club to another. When I first started playing OOTP 7 months ago, the same thing happened to me, without any notification one of my farm clubs was just gone... POOF! The way that I look at it now is that my New York Yankees organization owns the players and we rent the team name & location for our use, which we fill up with our young players. I'm not claiming that's how it is legally, but it helps me remember that any of my minor league clubs can be moved to a new location with a new team name, or they could just be taken away from me and I don't get anything to fill that void.

[bwburke94]

The Arkansas AA teams were confusing even in non-historical games; that may be the problem here as well.

[DRogers522]

So I ended up "stealing" an affiliate from AA and Adv A from the teams that had 2, and moved the players like you told me to! So, we will see what happens. I really appreciate the help guys!!

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by DRogers522

So I ended up "stealing" an affiliate from AA and Adv A from the teams that had 2, and moved the players like you told me to! So, we will see what happens. I really appreciate the help guys!!

Yup. I have a feeling you are going to regret this decision greatly. I'm quite certain, on January 1st, 2018 those two teams will be removed from your organization again and the 50+ players on those teams might go with 'em. Normally, if minor league teams are taken away from you it's because they were supposed to be, so the game knows to leave the players of those vanishing teams in your organization. However, based on this situation you created, honestly, I don't know what will happen. I would be prepared to possibly lose those players...but I may be wrong!! Maybe it will be like normal. The teams go but the players stay and those two teams will go.

Oh, one final thing I just thought of... Do you now happen to have two AA teams or two A teams that are in the same league? If so, you might want to re-do the schedule. The only reason that I say that is because you'll be mighty pissed if two of your own teams are playing each other and one of your players gets hurt by someone in your own organization.

If you don't have two minor league teams that are in the same league, however, that's all a moot point. Still, I know those teams will be yanked from you again.