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Old 04-30-2020, 07:36 PM   #1
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Benching SP who have been selected to the ASG - Who else does this?

Happy All-Star week (hour) 2025 to everyone. I was fortunate enough to have a few of my SP named to my conference’s All-Star squad for the mid-summer classic. In the past, I’ve noticed that allowing my SP to pitch in the ASG has resulted in a fatigue hit (as it should) that results in a disruption to my squad’s rotation to start the 2nd half that I’d rather avoid.

While IRL I’m sure many MLB GMs if given truth serum would admit to preferring not to have their players appear in the ASG due to the threat of injury (a variable not present in PT), those preferences are virtually always subordinated due to the financial interests of the league as a whole in having the best and most popular players appear in the ASG. Of course, in PT, this collective motivation is absent and it truly is every owner for him/herself.

Anyway, this season I benched my 3 SPs selected for the ASG to avoid the disruption to my staff/rotation. The ASG just finished simulating and sure enough all 3 SP did not make an appearance.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that 1 of my 3 SP selected for the ASG was the top vote getter at SP and was named as the initial starter. As a result, benching the player via the strategy setting worked appropriately (something I wondered about before employing it).

Anybody else apply this approach during AS week?

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Old 04-30-2020, 08:29 PM   #2
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Happy All-Star week (hour) 2025 to everyone. I was fortunate enough to have a few of my SP named to my conference’s All-Star squad for the mid-summer classic. In the past, I’ve noticed that allowing my SP to pitch in the ASG has resulted in a fatigue hit (as it should) that results in a disruption to my squad’s rotation to start the 2nd half that I’d rather avoid.

While IRL I’m sure many MLB GMs if given truth serum would admit to preferring not to have their players appear in the ASG due to the threat of injury (a variable not present in PT), those preferences are virtually always subordinated due to the financial interests of the league as a whole in having the best and most popular players appear in the ASG. Of course, in PT, this collective motivation is absent and it truly is every owner for him/herself.

Anyway, this season I benched my 3 SPs selected for the ASG to avoid the disruption to my staff/rotation. The ASG just finished simulating and sure enough all 3 SP did not make an appearance.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that 1 of my 3 SP selected for the ASG was the top vote getter at SP and was named as the initial starter. As a result, benching the player via the strategy setting worked appropriately (something I wondered about before employing it).

Anybody else apply this approach during AS week?

Now everyone is going to do this, and the position players are going to pitch
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:16 PM   #3
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Not sure the advantage since you will be forced to reserve the pitcher for 14 days? There are no injuries in PT.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:22 PM   #4
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dont tell everyone!
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:47 PM   #5
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Not sure the advantage since you will be forced to reserve the pitcher for 14 days? There are no injuries in PT.
I am assuming he means benching the pitcher under the Pitching Strategy Settings section...and not sending to the reserves.
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:59 PM   #6
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Not sure the advantage since you will be forced to reserve the pitcher for 14 days? There are no injuries in PT.

When you “bench” the player in the individual strategy settings you are not sending the player to the reserve roster. Instead you are instructing the AI not to insert the player into game action for X number of days.

When this occurs in the regular or post-season the effect of “benching” a player is to cost you/your team a roster spot for every day that player is benched since a player so designated will not see game action. The trade-off/benefit of benching is of course is to allow said player to rest.

When this cost-benefit analysis is applied to the ASG there is no cost to you/your team of benching the player other than the inability of the player to acquire PP during the ASG for achievements or for being named ASG MVP.

Due to the off-days after the ASG this strategy seems applicable only to SP since they typically need 4 full days of rest between starts whereas true relievers/closers recover much more quickly.
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:32 AM   #7
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Now everyone is going to do this, and the position players are going to pitch
This. This is correct.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:23 PM   #8
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What would the engine do if every player was benched, I wonder.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:18 PM   #9
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Benching SP who have been selected to the ASG - Who else does this?

And with the passage of additional sand through the hourglass it’s once again time for All-Star week (hour).

And so again in 2026, with an SP or two having been named to my conference’s All-Star squad, I have decided to “bench” these players using the individual game strategy settings for each respective player so as to avoid the fatigue hit to those players to start the 2nd half of the season.

On behalf of those SPs, our organization wishes to express thanks to the many virtual fans who submitted ASG ballots on behalf of these players hoping for a chance to see them in this season’s mid-summer (mid-week) classic. While they won’t see any in-game action at the ASG, they will be all be present and in uniform in recognition to those virtual fans and to support their virtual ASG teammates.


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Old 05-08-2020, 07:40 AM   #10
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This was actually a bug. We'll fix it so things work as intended going forward and the strategy settings do not apply to the ASG.
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Old 05-08-2020, 08:23 AM   #11
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That's cool, it's not a fair 'exploit' for people who are asleep leading up to the ASG.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:01 AM   #12
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This was actually a bug. We'll fix it so things work as intended going forward and the strategy settings do not apply to the ASG.
Does that mean, too, that there will be no fatigue from All-Star games? IIRC, No fatigue from All-Star games was part of the base game for a long time.
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:04 AM   #13
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you really had to go and ruin it OP...
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Old 05-08-2020, 11:25 AM   #14
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Loose lips sink ships.

But, I quit doing it, anyway. What's the point if you're going to win your division by 20+ games, or not?

There should be no fatigue from stupid all-star game, anyway. (In a game that has no injuries and no aging)
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Guys only pitch an inning each, so with the game on Tuesday, most starters should be back to rested by Saturday, so only really the Friday game is one where you might have to dig deeper in your rotation
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This was actually a bug. We'll fix it so things work as intended going forward and the strategy settings do not apply to the ASG.
Bravo!
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Old 05-08-2020, 02:45 PM   #17
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Guys only pitch an inning each, so with the game on Tuesday, most starters should be back to rested by Saturday, so only really the Friday game is one where you might have to dig deeper in your rotation
Who has time to baby sit every team? I set my rotation on some teams to strict order with my best starter 3rd (in case of game 163 or wild card) and that stupid all-star game will frequently mess that up.
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