Pitch count advice?

Wacko · 03-27-2003, 01:47 PM

Depending on my prospect's age and stamina, I'll set his pitch count anywhere from 80-100. Does anyone have any kind of rule of thumb for how much to set? And when/how much to increase as they progress?

Steve Kuffrey · 03-27-2003, 01:53 PM

Taken from the v4 manual:

Duration Starter/Reliever
"A" rated pitchers can throw approximately 130 pitches during a game without tiring
"E" rated pitchers can throw approximately 90 pitches during a game without tiring

Duration Reliever
"A" rated pitchers can throw approximately 75 pitches during a game without tiring
"E" rated pitchers can throw approximately 35 pitches during a game without tiring

I'd say the B-D fall in-between the above, hope this helps.

Wacko · 03-27-2003, 01:55 PM

I didn't think that applied to prospects. So there's no need to coddle their tender young arms?

Steve Kuffrey · 03-27-2003, 01:57 PM

Well I think that they can be used to this amount, I probably wouldn't overuse them or abuse them.

NYJuggalo45 · 03-27-2003, 02:10 PM

I usually set a prospects arm according to their age
So assume we have a SP with B range, 4 blue star prospect who makes the majors at 21

21yo - 85pitches
22yo - 95
23yo - 105
24 yo - i think is fully developed and can be taken of the pitch count

NYJuggalo45 · 03-27-2003, 02:11 PM

Steve, question for you...the numbers you listed I assume are based off modern day settings correct? I am doing a historical league and are i'm in 1912, using the correct settings for the time, and pitchers with B or even C ratings regularly pitch 140 pitches without tiring, and A guys, forget it, i've seen one throw 14 inning, 180pitches before tiring

Recte44 · 03-27-2003, 02:25 PM

In chance of injury related to age of pitcher/pitch counts now a factor in v5?

If not, whats the point of pitch counts?

Wacko · 03-27-2003, 02:34 PM

So, Juggalo. Let's say your prospect doesn't hit the majors until he's 25. Does that mean you start him off with no pitch count? Or do you start him off at 85 and move up?

NYJuggalo45 · 03-27-2003, 02:54 PM

no a 25 year old prospect's arm is fully developed i think, since usually at 25 the star go from blue to gold anyways

Steve Kuffrey · 03-27-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GBC Chairman
In chance of injury related to age of pitcher/pitch counts now a factor in v5?

If not, whats the point of pitch counts?

I know that we talked about having overuse of a pitcher tie into the chance of injury but I don't know for sure if that is the case or not.

Recte44 · 03-27-2003, 03:01 PM

Could someone verify this?

03-27-2003, 01:47 PM	#1
Wacko Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9	Pitch count advice? Depending on my prospect's age and stamina, I'll set his pitch count anywhere from 80-100. Does anyone have any kind of rule of thumb for how much to set? And when/how much to increase as they progress?

03-27-2003, 01:53 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Taken from the v4 manual: Duration Starter/Reliever "A" rated pitchers can throw approximately 130 pitches during a game without tiring "E" rated pitchers can throw approximately 90 pitches during a game without tiring Duration Reliever "A" rated pitchers can throw approximately 75 pitches during a game without tiring "E" rated pitchers can throw approximately 35 pitches during a game without tiring I'd say the B-D fall in-between the above, hope this helps. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-27-2003, 01:57 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Well I think that they can be used to this amount, I probably wouldn't overuse them or abuse them. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-27-2003, 02:10 PM	#5
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	I usually set a prospects arm according to their age So assume we have a SP with B range, 4 blue star prospect who makes the majors at 21 21yo - 85pitches 22yo - 95 23yo - 105 24 yo - i think is fully developed and can be taken of the pitch count __________________ This space for rent

03-27-2003, 02:11 PM	#6
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	Steve, question for you...the numbers you listed I assume are based off modern day settings correct? I am doing a historical league and are i'm in 1912, using the correct settings for the time, and pitchers with B or even C ratings regularly pitch 140 pitches without tiring, and A guys, forget it, i've seen one throw 14 inning, 180pitches before tiring __________________ This space for rent

03-27-2003, 01:55 PM	#3
Wacko Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9	I didn't think that applied to prospects. So there's no need to coddle their tender young arms?

03-27-2003, 02:25 PM	#7
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,818	In chance of injury related to age of pitcher/pitch counts now a factor in v5? If not, whats the point of pitch counts? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

03-27-2003, 02:34 PM	#8
Wacko Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9	So, Juggalo. Let's say your prospect doesn't hit the majors until he's 25. Does that mean you start him off with no pitch count? Or do you start him off at 85 and move up?

03-27-2003, 02:54 PM	#9
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	no a 25 year old prospect's arm is fully developed i think, since usually at 25 the star go from blue to gold anyways __________________ This space for rent

03-27-2003, 03:01 PM	#11
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,818	Could someone verify this? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)