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Old 01-21-2019, 03:10 PM   #1
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Thinking about blowing one of my teams up at the end of this season to create team with a total value of 1000 PP. I only use players from 2007 or older, trying to focus on the years I know best, 1960-2000. I also don't duplicate any of my players across my teams.



Of course, if I pull a Tim "Two Packs" Stoddard Orioles card, I could raise the cap to 2000.


Any thoughts?
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:14 PM   #2
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Depending on your plan, be careful of your actions. Another guy "blew up" his team by selling his players for low amounts and buying players with the proceeds that either were sold or were low value and may have been banned. So how do you plan to get down to 1000PP?
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:43 PM   #3
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Blow up our team will not help you and may cost you your PT altogether. Just start a new team and forget this one a few weeks and comeback to it and all the PP accumulated.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:25 PM   #4
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He isnt saying that he is tanking. It will ultimately be a bronze/silver team.

Is he not allowed to do that?

As for OP, depending on what level you are at there are plenty of decent bronze/silver players out there that will be viable in bronze-gold, maybe even diamond. I guess you can really only fit in a few silvers if you can snag them for 100-200.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:00 PM   #5
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He isnt saying that he is tanking. It will ultimately be a bronze/silver team.

Is he not allowed to do that?

As for OP, depending on what level you are at there are plenty of decent bronze/silver players out there that will be viable in bronze-gold, maybe even diamond. I guess you can really only fit in a few silvers if you can snag them for 100-200.
I personally did not think of tanking, not sure about Kushiel. As mentioned, there was a guy that upset people by selling his players for much less than they were worth. That's why I asked on how he planned get rid of both players and PP. Not really easy unless you spend money (reasonably) on players or just buy packs until you get to 1000PP then inactivate all your players except for 30 iron/bronze to start with. Easier just to start a new team.
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I personally did not think of tanking, not sure about Kushiel. As mentioned, there was a guy that upset people by selling his players for much less than they were worth. That's why I asked on how he planned get rid of both players and PP. Not really easy unless you spend money (reasonably) on players or just buy packs until you get to 1000PP then inactivate all your players except for 30 iron/bronze to start with. Easier just to start a new team.
I don't think he's trying to get rid of PP or undersell players, but rather setting the team a PP salary cap of 1000 (as in, all players on the team must have been bought for a combined value of 1000PP or less). Not that I should be speaking for the OP, but that's my 2c
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How will you be valuing their cards, via AH price, or quick sell price? Ichiro is a good bronze card, but if you are valuing it by AH price, suddenly he takes up 1/10th of your budget.
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I don't think he's trying to get rid of PP or undersell players, but rather setting the team a PP salary cap of 1000 (as in, all players on the team must have been bought for a combined value of 1000PP or less). Not that I should be speaking for the OP, but that's my 2c
That may be true, which is why I ask. If he already has players that add up to more than 1000PP, then I'm not sure if they will be inactivated or sold. Since he said "blow up", I thought that might mean he has to get rid of ones he already has, but maybe not.
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How will you be valuing their cards, via AH price, or quick sell price? Ichiro is a good bronze card, but if you are valuing it by AH price, suddenly he takes up 1/10th of your budget.
Surprised to see one of his good cards has dropped to 44PP BIN last night.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:21 PM   #10
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I think if he starts out fresh and at Bronze, he will have a much better time (and less finger pointing from everyone else).

Unless I misunderstood the initial 1K message (average of 40PP /player), it will be very hard to build out a team at the higher levels without losing and giving lots of PP to every opponent, hence finger pointing.

Starting fresh at this point should also be much better in terms of competition (most of the whales are already way under way and there may be more opponents that just use starter pack+points earned).
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:23 AM   #11
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Thank you for the thoughtful responses. My plan, which I should have explained better, was to replace some current players to get down to the cap. I had no plans to sell any, because I only have about 40 per team, and wouldn't need the PP to buy players.

I was going to use one of the average AH values. However, I already have three teams, a silver and two golds, so I guess it wouldn't be fair to the other teams, even at season's end. I guess it'll have to wait for 20.

Again, thanks for the ideas.
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Thank you for the thoughtful responses. My plan, which I should have explained better, was to replace some current players to get down to the cap. I had no plans to sell any, because I only have about 40 per team, and wouldn't need the PP to buy players.

I was going to use one of the average AH values. However, I already have three teams, a silver and two golds, so I guess it wouldn't be fair to the other teams, even at season's end. I guess it'll have to wait for 20.

Again, thanks for the ideas.


What league are you currently in? If you are in a high level league and all of a sudden have a team of all bronze or lower. It could be seen as tanking even if that is not the intention.


I will continue to support an option for players to "reset" their team and essentially start over between seasons. It would not be a choice to be taken lightly as, at the very minimum, I believe that if a player chooses to do so then they lose their entire roster (both active and reserve) and restart with 1000 PP and 6 packs and be sent back to the entry league. .
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I will continue to support an option for players to "reset" their team and essentially start over between seasons. It would not be a choice to be taken lightly as, at the very minimum, I believe that if a player chooses to do so then they lose their entire roster (both active and reserve) and restart with 1000 PP and 6 packs and be sent back to the entry league. .
Then how do you determine who replaces that team? For example, a Diamond team wants to reset. Which Gold team gets promoted? Considering there isn't a solution for avoiding 22 team leagues in Perfect, I don't think the infrastructure is in place to pull one extra team up from the level below.
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Then how do you determine who replaces that team? For example, a Diamond team wants to reset. Which Gold team gets promoted? Considering there isn't a solution for avoiding 22 team leagues in Perfect, I don't think the infrastructure is in place to pull one extra team up from the level below.
I never said it would be an easy problem to solve on the dev side.

I guess the main question should be how many players are tanking just to milk PP from a lower level league vs those who really just want to start over and rebuild with the knowledge they gained from the first go around.
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Why rebuild? Why not just retool?
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I never said it would be an easy problem to solve on the dev side.

I guess the main question should be how many players are tanking just to milk PP from a lower level league vs those who really just want to start over and rebuild with the knowledge they gained from the first go around.
Well from what the devs said, they are ok with fielding your best reasonable lineup. So fill your team at least with good bronze and silvers that are good cards, even if they won't compete in perfect. There's a difference between putting 40 OVR catchers at RF and an 04 Ichiro.
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