The definition of a Stacked team

Maddox · 11-14-2018, 07:23 PM

Any guesses how this team has amassed a 57-16 record?

They even have a diamond pitcher on their reserve roster

scott1964 · 11-14-2018, 07:32 PM

I beat Randy Johnson once.

SayHey1 · 11-14-2018, 07:32 PM

I seriously don't get it. The game is about tweaking, fiddling, and fielding the best team possible with the constraints of not having enough money.

I really don't get the fun in dominating with your wallet. I guess this is why I'll never be a Yankees fan.

drhay53 · 11-14-2018, 07:32 PM

This tells me that cards are currently far too easy to obtain. Roster like that should take a couple of months to put together IMO.

Thalion · 11-14-2018, 07:36 PM

Rico Petrocelli was a 97?!

Maddox · 11-14-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SayHey1

I seriously don't get it. The game is about tweaking, fiddling, and fielding the best team possible with the constraints of not having enough money.

I really don't get the fun in dominating with your wallet. I guess this is why I'll never be a Yankees fan.

I've been saying to each their own and I believe that, but I am with you in that it seems to take any fun or challenge out of building your team.

He could run that roster out from now until the end of beta and never have to tweak or change anything.

Maddox · 11-14-2018, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thalion

Rico Petrocelli was a 97?!

I had to look but his '69 season was really good

.297 AVG
.403 OBP
.589 SLG
98 BB
68 SO
40 HR
97 RBIS
92 RUNS

What is even more amazing is that that performance was only good enough to net him 7th place in the MVP voting.

AdamD · 11-14-2018, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by drhay53

This tells me that cards are currently far too easy to obtain. Roster like that should take a couple of months to put together IMO.

You can do it instantly if you spend enough money

<Pion> · 11-14-2018, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddox

Any guesses how this team has amassed a 57-16 record?

They even have a diamond pitcher on their reserve roster

My league has a team that is 66-6. Guess they haven't played well recently as they started 47-2.

Seems like big money outlays kill any long term interest as they won't have much to do other than maybe get more diamonds for their reserve roster or more perfect players for starters. Once you reach that point, you wouldn't need to think much about lineups and strategy unless you get in a league where multiple other all perfect and diamond teams increase the difficulty.

Orcin · 11-14-2018, 08:32 PM

Perfects = 7 @ 75000PP = 525,000PP
Diamonds = 19 @ 8000PP = 152,000PP
Rest of Roster = 25000PP?

Let's round that off to 700,000PP. Further let's say that he got lucky with achievements and earned 50000PP so far. Let's give him another 50000PP from selling cards. He would need 600,000PP to buy this team. He could do that for $300-400 without too much trouble.

There was a thread earlier where Markus and others were speculating that people would spend a lot more than that. So I am not surprised at this. Quibble with my math if you wish, but $500 could easily get this team. We should see more of these.

mikezone13 · 11-14-2018, 08:35 PM

Fun getting to that point (if you didn't buy your way there) - but the fun would end once you're there I'd imagine, until others caught up of course

CD360 · 11-14-2018, 08:36 PM

This is the Malibu team right? I’ve been in every league with them. Even before the PP store opened, they’ve had a majority of diamond cards.

Fyrestorm3 · 11-14-2018, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddox

I've been saying to each their own and I believe that, but I am with you in that it seems to take any fun or challenge out of building your team.

He could run that roster out from now until the end of beta and never have to tweak or change anything.

And it's all for nothing except some more virtual currency and the satisfaction of being top of the pack.

That's why I say let them put these kinds of teams together. Won't bother me any.

Clavette · 11-14-2018, 09:00 PM

To each his own

One Post Wonder · 11-14-2018, 09:31 PM

Yeah, and if I beat this team I'll earn 20 pp for my trouble if I'm lucky.

But if I crush a team where the guy just opened his 6 packs and then logged off, I'll earn 4000.

Sorry, I'm in a salty mood ATM.

tcblcommish · 11-14-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

Yeah, and if I beat this team I'll earn 20 pp for my trouble if I'm lucky.

But if I crush a team where the guy just opened his 6 packs and then logged off, I'll earn 4000.

Sorry, I'm in a salty mood ATM.

That is a very good point. you beat one of those teams you should get something more than nothing. This is the kind of nonsense that kills these ultimate type games for me. Seeing these teams more and more now and knowing that I have to toil in the lower leagues to compete with people that play the way I do basically.

I know people say that the leagues changing all the time will alter who you play vs but these super teams just make the game boring and I know I will start losing interest in the game with this kind of stuff

One Post Wonder · 11-14-2018, 09:47 PM

I'm with you. For me it's a combination of super teams and what appears to be a huge amount of luck in the way pp is rewarded. Skill and strategy seem to be a distant third.

And even in the lower leagues, they won't all play like you. There will always be a whale who has just joined and needs to trample his way through you to get to where he needs to be.

I was high on PT a few days ago, but it's feeling more and more equivalent to sitting in front of a slot machine all afternoon and just pulling the handle. There was a guy who equated PT to slots about a week ago, and most people including me disagreed with him. But now I can understand what he was talking about.

Orcin · 11-14-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

I'm with you. For me it's a combination of super teams and what appears to be a huge amount of luck in the way pp is rewarded. Skill and strategy seem to be a distant third.

This is completely inaccurate. You don't really have a good understanding of the game. There are many teams that are doing well without spending money. Calling it pure dumb luck is insulting to those players that have put some thought into their strategy and have invested time and effort into their team. Sure, there have been some lucky days of PP, but 5000pp isn't even one good diamond player. It takes a bit more than a huge amount of luck to build a competitive team. Look around at a few teams that are doing well without superior rosters and try to figure it out.

tcblcommish · 11-14-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

This is completely inaccurate. You don't really have a good understanding of the game. There are many teams that are doing well without spending money. Calling it pure dumb luck is insulting to those players that have put some thought into their strategy and have invested time and effort into their team. Sure, there have been some lucky days of PP, but 5000pp isn't even one good diamond player. It takes a bit more than a huge amount of luck to build a competitive team. Look around at a few teams that are doing well without superior rosters and try to figure it out.

Nothing to do with how your own team is playing, im 5 games upp in my division and I am having a great year. Made it to the finals last season too but for me, im talking longevity. I know for a fact that I wont be competing at the higest divsion because im not spending cash. When they said that you can compete without spending money, they were referring to the league structure Im sure because I can tell you, I wont have a team that good at all, ever and my interest will deteriorate.

I am already starting to. Some people are ok with being able to compete with the lower league but I dont know, just feel cheated with going up against a store bought super team from all ERAs no matter what kind of season I have had

Fyrestorm3 · 11-14-2018, 10:20 PM

I'm really done arguing the point, but if these teams existing bothers you, then maybe this kind of game mode really isn't your cup of tea in the first place.

I'm building a team here. Opening packs, getting super excited when I pull a gold, deciding who to keep, who to start. I don't care if I go under .500, I don't care if the team shown here wins the championship instead of me. It never feels like I'm throwing myself at a brick wall, because whether I am winning or losing, I am earning points and my team is evolving. I can step away for a few days, come back to a thousand points, and get excited at the possibilities as I open a new pack. Or I can sit here for a few hours, browsing the AH and collecting cards that I like. Either way, I am having a good time, regardless of what everyone else is doing. That is the draw of the game mode, at least in my eyes. And that is why the team above, no matter how it was acquired, is not a big deal.

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11-14-2018, 09:47 PM	#17
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	I'm with you. For me it's a combination of super teams and what appears to be a huge amount of luck in the way pp is rewarded. Skill and strategy seem to be a distant third. And even in the lower leagues, they won't all play like you. There will always be a whale who has just joined and needs to trample his way through you to get to where he needs to be. I was high on PT a few days ago, but it's feeling more and more equivalent to sitting in front of a slot machine all afternoon and just pulling the handle. There was a guy who equated PT to slots about a week ago, and most people including me disagreed with him. But now I can understand what he was talking about. Last edited by One Post Wonder; 11-14-2018 at 09:48 PM.

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Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	I'm really done arguing the point, but if these teams existing bothers you, then maybe this kind of game mode really isn't your cup of tea in the first place. I'm building a team here. Opening packs, getting super excited when I pull a gold, deciding who to keep, who to start. I don't care if I go under .500, I don't care if the team shown here wins the championship instead of me. It never feels like I'm throwing myself at a brick wall, because whether I am winning or losing, I am earning points and my team is evolving. I can step away for a few days, come back to a thousand points, and get excited at the possibilities as I open a new pack. Or I can sit here for a few hours, browsing the AH and collecting cards that I like. Either way, I am having a good time, regardless of what everyone else is doing. That is the draw of the game mode, at least in my eyes. And that is why the team above, no matter how it was acquired, is not a big deal. __________________ Jersey Template (Photoshop) \| Cap Template (Photoshop)

11-14-2018, 07:32 PM	#3
SayHey1 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 251	I seriously don't get it. The game is about tweaking, fiddling, and fielding the best team possible with the constraints of not having enough money. I really don't get the fun in dominating with your wallet. I guess this is why I'll never be a Yankees fan.

11-14-2018, 07:32 PM	#4
drhay53 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 355	This tells me that cards are currently far too easy to obtain. Roster like that should take a couple of months to put together IMO.

11-14-2018, 07:36 PM	#5
Thalion Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 413	Rico Petrocelli was a 97?!

11-14-2018, 08:32 PM	#10
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,847 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Perfects = 7 @ 75000PP = 525,000PP Diamonds = 19 @ 8000PP = 152,000PP Rest of Roster = 25000PP? Let's round that off to 700,000PP. Further let's say that he got lucky with achievements and earned 50000PP so far. Let's give him another 50000PP from selling cards. He would need 600,000PP to buy this team. He could do that for $300-400 without too much trouble. There was a thread earlier where Markus and others were speculating that people would spend a lot more than that. So I am not surprised at this. Quibble with my math if you wish, but $500 could easily get this team. We should see more of these.

11-14-2018, 08:36 PM	#12
CD360 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 72	This is the Malibu team right? I’ve been in every league with them. Even before the PP store opened, they’ve had a majority of diamond cards.

11-14-2018, 09:00 PM	#14
Clavette Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 371	To each his own

11-14-2018, 09:31 PM	#15
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	Yeah, and if I beat this team I'll earn 20 pp for my trouble if I'm lucky. But if I crush a team where the guy just opened his 6 packs and then logged off, I'll earn 4000. Sorry, I'm in a salty mood ATM.