Manager, GM or Both

Djman319 · 04-30-2018, 09:35 PM

What do you guys like to do the most when your playing Manager, GM or Both?

mitchkenn · 04-30-2018, 09:41 PM

i used to do both, but last year or so, i've just been GM, controlling player movement from the minors, not within the minors, along with contracts, trades, signings, etc. Let my manager do the line-ups and pitching - even if i disagree with some of his rotation choices.

Mets52 · 04-30-2018, 09:43 PM

For me I like GM. AI vs AI is the truest way to see how you're doing, in my opinion. You can manipulate as a manager. Taking till a strike, etc.

I like finding the talent, drafting, trading, building.

Djman319 · 04-30-2018, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchkenn

i used to do both, but last year or so, i've just been GM, controlling player movement from the minors, not within the minors, along with contracts, trades, signings, etc. Let my manager do the line-ups and pitching - even if i disagree with some of his rotation choices.

I'm doing one as just the GM for the first time really hoping my Manager doesn't screw up with the lineups/rotations

Djman319 · 04-30-2018, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mets52

For me I like GM. AI vs AI is the truest way to see how you're doing, in my opinion. You can manipulate as a manager. Taking till a strike, etc.

I like finding the talent, drafting, trading, building.

True it just stinks to have the rotations and lineups out of your hand

damientheomen3 · 04-30-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Djman319

True it just stinks to have the rotations and lineups out of your hand

You can just make yourself GM and manager to give yourself control over those factors. You can also set your minor league lineups and such, or give up that control in the manager settings.

gamefan1978 · 04-30-2018, 11:26 PM

Both but I have the AI do some things like hire/fire minor league coaches.

Silfir · 05-01-2018, 03:36 PM

It's a strictly either/or thing for me, for immersion reasons. It's two completely different jobs that by rights no one man should be able to do at the same time, so there's a verisimilitude aspect to it - but perhaps more importantly, it'd feel lonely and stressful to have to be both. There's no one you can blame - as a manager you can only do as well as the roster allows, so if you do poorly you can always blame the GM for not giving you proper baseball players. As the GM, you can shake your fist at the manager for not realizing the potential of your magnificent roster; if necessary, you can fire him, which always gives a cathartic sort of pleasure.

In an online league, of I were to approach the game from a strictly competitive angle, it'd be ideal to be both, but OOTP lives and dies by the roleplaying aspect for me, so I suppose it really comes down to the verisimilitude thing again. Being two people and governing the franchise as some sort of baseball deity just doesn't feel right.

actionjackson · 05-01-2018, 03:43 PM

Neither. I'm commissioner/god/official historian and chronicler of my league. When I used to take over a team, I would GM and manage, but I found I got bogged down in the minutiae, and my league moved like a tortoise. Now I can get some history going, build up a Hall of Fame, watch players get drafted, play and retire. I love it. Not everybody's cup of tea because of the lack of competition, but this game is so good that I don't feel the need to manage/GM. I play historical random debut with recalc and player development on, so I enjoy watching the greats come in and lay down the smack, but one of my favourite things is to watch some mediocre never was get a huge boost from the player development system and ride it all the way to the HoF.

mmarra82 · 05-01-2018, 04:17 PM

GM, but I will use strategy on occasion to force start players. I handle all financial aspects, and personell. I also liike to control my top prospects. Assistant GM controls promotions/demotions along with international signings. Managers control lineups/pitch staff.

Sim 7 days at a time and have a checklist to go over each Monday during the regular season.

swoboda · 05-01-2018, 04:30 PM

I always have two games going at once in one I am only the GM simming all the games. In the other I am the GM and the manager and I play out all 162. Hard to say which one I like more I like them both for different reasons.

MizzouRah · 05-01-2018, 04:31 PM

I'm the GM but always hire a manager who allows me control as I like to tweak lineups. Plus I manage all post season games.

Not realistic I know..

Orcin · 05-01-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by swoboda

I always have two games going at once in one I am only the GM simming all the games. In the other I am the GM and the manager and I play out all 162. Hard to say which one I like more I like them both for different reasons.

I do this also. I found that I want to see the offseason as much as I like to manage, so the sim league moves fast enough to scratch that itch. In the GM only league, I always give the manager full control and try to give him a roster that he likes.

David Watts · 05-01-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Neither. I'm commissioner/god/official historian and chronicler of my league. When I used to take over a team, I would GM and manage, but I found I got bogged down in the minutiae, and my league moved like a tortoise. Now I can get some history going, build up a Hall of Fame, watch players get drafted, play and retire. I love it. Not everybody's cup of tea because of the lack of competition, but this game is so good that I don't feel the need to manage/GM. I play historical random debut with recalc and player development on, so I enjoy watching the greats come in and lay down the smack, but one of my favourite things is to watch some mediocre never was get a huge boost from the player development system and ride it all the way to the HoF.

This is how I play as well. I simply watch. I decide when the league expands, if a team moves etc. I pick a game per day to watch. Often times I watch an entire series and then move on to another when it ends. When it gets to August and September, I tend to watch mainly the games featuring teams in contention for the post season. I'm completely hands off as far as roster moves, trades, drafts etc. Since I'm not involved, a crazy move by the AI is just storyline material.

Sometimes, I pick a team and become a fan. If I do this, I will watch all of that team's games and pick a game at random to watch when my team has an off day.

Been playing this way almost exclusively since 14 or 15. I play using 2D classic. I play fast as well. Short PBP/instant. I admit, I hardly read play by play. I simply want the play result. I have Ernie Harwell and on some days George Kell and Al Kaline trapped in my skull and they provide the play by play.

r0nster · 05-01-2018, 05:18 PM

I like handling everything on my team MY WAY. I rarely if ever delegate. The only thing I delegate is minor leagues for obvious reasons.

eldur00 · 05-01-2018, 06:19 PM

I like to manage only...kind of a masochistic approach, I know. But I like to have to make do with what I have and feeling a bit helpless in that regard.

Mets52 · 05-01-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Djman319

True it just stinks to have the rotations and lineups out of your hand

I let the lineups go, but I fix the pitching rotation if I have to. Up until my last manager in '19 I didn't touch anything but my latest manager has the bullpen out of wack. LR guy in MR, MR 2 pitch guy in LR, etc. And I also may want a particular closer and/or mark someone as a stopper.

dodger300 · 05-02-2018, 02:14 AM

I like playing as dodgers. I found it always to easy to build a monster team in LA. So I started playing manage only. Enjoy the challenge of playing this way. I started this replay with OOTP 18. In my the middle of my fifth season and still have not been to world series. I play out every at bat of every game.

Mariner and Giants Fan · 05-04-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by swoboda

I always have two games going at once in one I am only the GM simming all the games. In the other I am the GM and the manager and I play out all 162. Hard to say which one I like more I like them both for different reasons.

how do you play two games at once? Different computers?

Orcin · 05-04-2018, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

how do you play two games at once? Different computers?

Two active leagues but only play one at a time.

04-30-2018, 09:35 PM	#1
Djman319 Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 12	Manager, GM or Both What do you guys like to do the most when your playing Manager, GM or Both?

04-30-2018, 09:41 PM	#2
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	i used to do both, but last year or so, i've just been GM, controlling player movement from the minors, not within the minors, along with contracts, trades, signings, etc. Let my manager do the line-ups and pitching - even if i disagree with some of his rotation choices. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

05-01-2018, 04:30 PM	#11
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,228	I always have two games going at once in one I am only the GM simming all the games. In the other I am the GM and the manager and I play out all 162. Hard to say which one I like more I like them both for different reasons. __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

04-30-2018, 09:43 PM	#3
Mets52 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 124	For me I like GM. AI vs AI is the truest way to see how you're doing, in my opinion. You can manipulate as a manager. Taking till a strike, etc. I like finding the talent, drafting, trading, building.

04-30-2018, 11:26 PM	#7
gamefan1978 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 101	Both but I have the AI do some things like hire/fire minor league coaches.

05-01-2018, 03:36 PM	#8
Silfir Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 138	It's a strictly either/or thing for me, for immersion reasons. It's two completely different jobs that by rights no one man should be able to do at the same time, so there's a verisimilitude aspect to it - but perhaps more importantly, it'd feel lonely and stressful to have to be both. There's no one you can blame - as a manager you can only do as well as the roster allows, so if you do poorly you can always blame the GM for not giving you proper baseball players. As the GM, you can shake your fist at the manager for not realizing the potential of your magnificent roster; if necessary, you can fire him, which always gives a cathartic sort of pleasure. In an online league, of I were to approach the game from a strictly competitive angle, it'd be ideal to be both, but OOTP lives and dies by the roleplaying aspect for me, so I suppose it really comes down to the verisimilitude thing again. Being two people and governing the franchise as some sort of baseball deity just doesn't feel right.

05-01-2018, 03:43 PM	#9
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	Neither. I'm commissioner/god/official historian and chronicler of my league. When I used to take over a team, I would GM and manage, but I found I got bogged down in the minutiae, and my league moved like a tortoise. Now I can get some history going, build up a Hall of Fame, watch players get drafted, play and retire. I love it. Not everybody's cup of tea because of the lack of competition, but this game is so good that I don't feel the need to manage/GM. I play historical random debut with recalc and player development on, so I enjoy watching the greats come in and lay down the smack, but one of my favourite things is to watch some mediocre never was get a huge boost from the player development system and ride it all the way to the HoF.

05-01-2018, 04:17 PM	#10
mmarra82 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 310	GM, but I will use strategy on occasion to force start players. I handle all financial aspects, and personell. I also liike to control my top prospects. Assistant GM controls promotions/demotions along with international signings. Managers control lineups/pitch staff. Sim 7 days at a time and have a checklist to go over each Monday during the regular season.

05-01-2018, 04:31 PM	#12
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	I'm the GM but always hire a manager who allows me control as I like to tweak lineups. Plus I manage all post season games. Not realistic I know..

05-01-2018, 05:18 PM	#15
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,077	I like handling everything on my team MY WAY. I rarely if ever delegate. The only thing I delegate is minor leagues for obvious reasons.

05-01-2018, 06:19 PM	#16
eldur00 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 506	I like to manage only...kind of a masochistic approach, I know. But I like to have to make do with what I have and feeling a bit helpless in that regard.

05-02-2018, 02:14 AM	#18
dodger300 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 268	I like playing as dodgers. I found it always to easy to build a monster team in LA. So I started playing manage only. Enjoy the challenge of playing this way. I started this replay with OOTP 18. In my the middle of my fifth season and still have not been to world series. I play out every at bat of every game.