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Old 02-22-2018, 09:03 PM   #1
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Will the Team Chemistry screen be re-designed in OOTP19? I sure hope so, because I have no idea how to interpret the screen from OOTP18 as shown below.

Don't be confused by the players listed, I did a fantasy inaugural draft.

Can someone please explain what this screen is showing and whether or not team chemistry actually has an in-game impact?
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:25 PM   #2
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I don't find it confusing, but I would love even more information.

What is it that you find confusing?
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:22 PM   #3
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I don't find it confusing, but I would love even more information.

What is it that you find confusing?
I'm with Rosco on this one. I understand that a little "mystery" helps to simulate humans and how inconsistent we are, but it would be nice to have a bit more understanding of things such as:
How "Good" and "Bad" relationships really translate into game/season performance
How not having players with certain traits impacts game/season performance
Some sense of the magnitude of impacts (i.e. a lower skill level coach with good relationships vs. a slightly higher skilled coach with bad relationships).
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:38 PM   #4
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The issue is how does OOTP balance winning vs chemistry. Winning solves a lot of chemistry issues and I would be aggressive in opposing chemistry having too much influence. The screen shot is essentially useless. The season has not started yet, so there is no "chemistry" to assess. Play 60 games and check back in.
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Old 02-24-2018, 06:40 AM   #5
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i have zero problems with this ... maybe the issue is that its too easy to understand. LOL
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:19 PM   #6
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By more information, I meant even more stuff that I can read while looking at my team chemistry. I find it's perfectly clear as is. I just like as many newsfeeds, reports, etc. to check as possible
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:05 PM   #7
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Will the Team Chemistry screen be re-designed in OOTP19? I sure hope so, because I have no idea how to interpret the screen from OOTP18 as shown below.
It has not been redesigned. You probably need to be more specific about what it is you're not understanding to get help.

Chemistry does have an impact; however, it is very small.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:44 PM   #8
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It has not been redesigned. You probably need to be more specific about what it is you're not understanding to get help.

Chemistry does have an impact; however, it is very small.
what else do you know? come on, spill the beans
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:16 PM   #9
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I took another look at my screenshot above and realized that in the Upper Left Section it is apparently showing whether or not the head coach has either a good or bad relationship with certain players. I overlooked the coaches name at the top of this section hence my confusion, so my mistake. There is no information indicating why a relationship is good or bad, or how to improve the relationship.

The Upper Right Section apparently shows players relationships with each other. How these players are matched up with each other is a mystery.

The Bottom Left Section apparently shows certain roles that players take on during the season. Is there any way to choose a team captain or fill any of the roles listed?

If all of this info is just fluff, then please don't include it in OOTP 19.

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Old 02-24-2018, 07:20 PM   #10
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After a month or two or at all star break you will see at bottom of screen to which you referring to
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:40 PM   #11
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Is there any way to choose a team captain or fill any of the roles listed?
By "Captain" it doesn't necessarily mean they are THE team captain, but they have the type of personality that would make a good team captain. In order to have that, you have to have a player on your team that has good work ethic and very very high leadership (like 170+).

Have a team captain can help, I assume, by helping development and minimizing strife in the locker room


Also, I think you can turn chemistry off, can't you?
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:02 PM   #12
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LOL. Sorry, the beta team is under a NDA.

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I took another look at my screenshot above and realized that in the Upper Left Section it is apparently showing whether or not the head coach has either a good or bad relationship with certain players. I overlooked the coaches name at the top of this section hence my confusion, so my mistake. There is no information indicating why a relationship is good or bad, or how to improve the relationship.
The relationship is good/bad for any number of reasons, and no, you are not able to fix them. This is realistic -- if Aaron Boone and Giancarlo Stanton don't get along, what's Brian Cashman going to do about it? Hire a marriage counselor? "Bad relationship" doesn't mean that the two hate each other; just means that they aren't each other's favorite people. Whenever you put 25 strangers together for a project, some of them will get along more than others. It's perhaps something to be aware of when you're thinking about firing a manager or something, that's all. Note that managers have personality types, so if most of your roster hates your manager, don't hire one with the same personality.

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The Upper Right Section apparently shows players relationships with each other. How these players are matched up with each other is a mystery.
Not exactly; this section shows their general happiness, period. They might be in a good/bad mood because of the manager, or their own performance, or the role they've been assigned, their contract (I think), recent roster moves, or because the team is winning/losing. etc. etc. Again, there's not always something you can do to make everyone perfectly happy. That's life. If some guy is going to be pissed because you benched him for hitting .173, he's gonna be pissed. A good manager and good team leaders will help minimize his pissedness and keep it from spreading, but you can't make someone be happy.

In general, a few frowny faces are normal and no big deal. If you start seeing a guy turning into angry red-face, that's an issue you need to be aware of.

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The Bottom Left Section apparently shows certain roles that players take on during the season. Is there any way to choose a team captain or fill any of the roles listed?
These are personality descriptions. Saying that David Wright is a "captain" means that he is high in leadership, work ethic, and other traits that make him a positive clubhouse influence. You can't name someone captain, because you can't make someone have those (or any other) traits. All you can do is seek to construct a roster with at least equal numbers of positive personalities (those on the left) as negative ones (those on the right). If your team doesn't have a captain or any leaders (who are sort of captain-lite), maybe look around and see if you can find one to be your backup catcher or something like that. If not, it really isn't a big deal, because the #1 driver of chemistry is winning. You can have a starting outfield of Albert Belle, Milton Bradley, and Nyjer Morgan, but if you're playing .600 ball, things will probably be OK (you may have some interesting storylines with them as individuals, but it won't spread).

The main thing to be concerned about is that if you have a team that likely isn't going to win AND you have a number of bad personalities, you're creating a potential for things to spiral down and get ugly. If you're planning on tanking, try to get a couple solid veteran leaders to hopefully keep things professional.

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Old 02-25-2018, 05:04 PM   #13
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I took another look at my screenshot above and realized that in the Upper Left Section it is apparently showing whether or not the head coach has either a good or bad relationship with certain players. I overlooked the coaches name at the top of this section hence my confusion, so my mistake. There is no information indicating why a relationship is good or bad, or how to improve the relationship.

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This is based on the manager's preference sliders, and whether he values offense or pitching, prospects vs. veterans, etc.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:36 PM   #14
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Be assured though, that if you purchase OOTP 19, all of your wildest dreams will come true.
So OOTP 19 will make me happy, wealthy, healthy, and find me a beautiful Uzbekistani mail-order bride?

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Old 02-25-2018, 07:29 PM   #15
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The issue is how does OOTP balance winning vs chemistry. Winning solves a lot of chemistry issues and I would be aggressive in opposing chemistry having too much influence. The screen shot is essentially useless. The season has not started yet, so there is no "chemistry" to assess. Play 60 games and check back in.
This. I really hope chemistry has very little to do with winning and losing, except, perhaps, in the most extreme cases. I've been in a fair share of clubhouses and, strangely enough, high talent teams that have very low camaraderie are just fine record wise. Chemistry may play some role in re-signing a player, but that's, still, mostly money.
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Old 02-26-2018, 02:04 AM   #16
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This is based on the manager's preference sliders, and whether he values offense or pitching, prospects vs. veterans, etc.
Matt can tell me if I'm wrong, but no, I don't think this is the main driver, and perhaps not even one at all. The main factor, as I understand it, is the managers personality type. Some players will be more happy with an easy-going manager, others with a stricter personality.

VERY generally speaking, veteran rosters respond better to more laidback managers, young ones need more discipline. And no manager will ever be popular with everyone.
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So OOTP 19 will make me happy, wealthy, healthy, and find me a beautiful Uzbekistani mail-order bride?
Have you ever eaten Uzbek food? You may want to rethink your dreams.
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Old 02-26-2018, 10:09 AM   #18
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So OOTP 19 will make me happy, wealthy, healthy, and find me a beautiful Uzbekistani mail-order bride?

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LOL. Sorry, the beta team is under a NDA.

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The issue is how does OOTP balance winning vs chemistry. Winning solves a lot of chemistry issues and I would be aggressive in opposing chemistry having too much influence. The screen shot is essentially useless. The season has not started yet, so there is no "chemistry" to assess. Play 60 games and check back in.
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