I need the math geeks to explain this one to me.

Cobra Mgr · 12-02-2018, 07:12 PM

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Heading into the weekend, Oklahoma, Georgia and Ohio State all had some numbers to support a spot in the CFP. Georgia had the best strength of schedule of the three. Ohio State had the best strength of record, a stat which measures how strong a team's record is given its schedule.

So UGa & OSU both had 11-1 records before Saturday. How could OSU's 11-1 be considered stronger than Georgia's, when the Bulldogs had the tougher schedule?

TGH-Adfabre · 12-02-2018, 08:29 PM

I don't really have a problem with this.
"In the end one-loss conference champion with their only loss being on a neutral field to a ranked team, which they avenged in their conference championship," selection committee chairman Rob Mullens said on ESPN. "Every combination was vetted, looking at their full body of work, their resumes side-by-side. In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State, the committee voted that no one was unequivocally better than the other so then we leaned on the protocol. So we went with the one-loss conference champion."

What I like is that this was the conversation about the National Champion a while back. Now this is the conversation about 4th in the playoffs. At some point in the future this will be the conversation about 8th and I will only care if it is my team in or out. I like that this is 4th place bickering not 1st. I may be unhappy when it is 5 no loss teams and they have to choose, other than that this is fine by me.

DustyElbows · 12-05-2018, 12:05 PM

The two stats measure subtly different things.

Strength of schedule is probably just the combined records of all the teams you have played. This is one is easy enough.

Strength of record (IIRC) basically asks what are the odds that an average top-25 team could have gotten this record or better against this schedule.

Suppose that Georgia's cupcakes played better than OSU's and finished with an 18-18 record instead of a 6-30 record. This greatly impacts strength of schedule, but might not impact strength of record because your average top-25 team would have been expected to beat all of those cupcakes anyways.

12-02-2018, 08:29 PM	#2
TGH-Adfabre Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,601	I don't really have a problem with this. "In the end one-loss conference champion with their only loss being on a neutral field to a ranked team, which they avenged in their conference championship," selection committee chairman Rob Mullens said on ESPN. "Every combination was vetted, looking at their full body of work, their resumes side-by-side. In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State, the committee voted that no one was unequivocally better than the other so then we leaned on the protocol. So we went with the one-loss conference champion." What I like is that this was the conversation about the National Champion a while back. Now this is the conversation about 4th in the playoffs. At some point in the future this will be the conversation about 8th and I will only care if it is my team in or out. I like that this is 4th place bickering not 1st. I may be unhappy when it is 5 no loss teams and they have to choose, other than that this is fine by me. __________________ You mock me, therefore I am My wife

12-05-2018, 12:05 PM	#3
DustyElbows Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 225	The two stats measure subtly different things. Strength of schedule is probably just the combined records of all the teams you have played. This is one is easy enough. Strength of record (IIRC) basically asks what are the odds that an average top-25 team could have gotten this record or better against this schedule. Suppose that Georgia's cupcakes played better than OSU's and finished with an 18-18 record instead of a 6-30 record. This greatly impacts strength of schedule, but might not impact strength of record because your average top-25 team would have been expected to beat all of those cupcakes anyways.