Player Salaries Vs Player Payroll

non1987 · 01-21-2018, 03:54 PM

I am new to this game as well as to Baseball in general. So, sorry if this is a dumb question.

I am a GM in the IND Frontier league where there is a salary cup of 75k. I am building the team for next season trying to sign FAs for my team. However, I cannot understand how the salary cup for teams is calculated.

In this moment I have a total of 19 players in the active and reserve roster. 10 of them have a Major League contract, totaling 38k. The others have a Minor League contract. The minimum contract in the league is 2,4k. If we add 2.4k*9 + 38k we have roughly 60k of contracts. I would expect to have 15k of free budget for signing new people.

Now, my player payroll is actually 72k! That's quite a difference for my budget. I look around and all of the teams in my league have a player payroll different higher than the sum of the player guaranteed salaries. Can anyone explain me how this works?

non1987 · 01-21-2018, 05:14 PM

I think I figured this out and I believe the game has some error in the way it calculates the payroll...

What happens is that the payroll gets automatically filled with players at a minimum contract. So, I have 38k of contracts for 9 players. This means I need other 24-9 = 15 players to fill the roster. At minimum, I am going to pay those player 2.4k. So my minimum projected payroll is 38k + 2.4k*15 = 72k.

But this means that we are double counting those players I will sign at the minimum!!!

When I negotiate with free agents, my remaining salary space is calculated as if I actually have 14 players signed at the minimum. This can actually prevent me from signing players -- even at the minimum. I believe the game here should be fixed!

Brad K · 01-21-2018, 07:48 PM

I've noticed stuff doesn't add up but I'm playing an old version.

NoOne · 01-22-2018, 03:35 PM

team settings - look for misc player expenses (retired contracts, released players show up here)

front office -> Salaries tab... can see it add up...

the salaries tab info and payroll figure on front office can be off a bit before season starts... newly promoted MLB'ers don't officially have a contract, yet. maybe if you promote them before new year they do? anyway, it happens

some projected values are based on next years payroll.. depends on what you are looking at.. e.g. extensions look at "next" year. extensions can use "Cash on Hand" before it is lost to and cap placed on it.. this would augment what's available and highlights why there should be a cap on it in 99.9% of all situations.

it all adds up. it may not handle long-term stuff the best, but at least current and next year budgets have to balance for various payroll decisions.

maybe there's somethign odd with smaller values? i can't say i've played with 75k payrolls to eliminate the possibility. definitely not occuring with modern day values and more default settings (in case those are at play)

Edit:

Luxury tax? what you describe reminds me of a non-cap int'l ama FA setting... every dollar spent doubles over cap. similar stuff happens with luxury cap... double check all 3 of the settings related. make sure it's soft/hard as you inteneded with correct digits/scale.

01-21-2018, 03:54 PM	#1
non1987 Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2	Player Salaries Vs Player Payroll I am new to this game as well as to Baseball in general. So, sorry if this is a dumb question. I am a GM in the IND Frontier league where there is a salary cup of 75k. I am building the team for next season trying to sign FAs for my team. However, I cannot understand how the salary cup for teams is calculated. In this moment I have a total of 19 players in the active and reserve roster. 10 of them have a Major League contract, totaling 38k. The others have a Minor League contract. The minimum contract in the league is 2,4k. If we add 2.4k*9 + 38k we have roughly 60k of contracts. I would expect to have 15k of free budget for signing new people. Now, my player payroll is actually 72k! That's quite a difference for my budget. I look around and all of the teams in my league have a player payroll different higher than the sum of the player guaranteed salaries. Can anyone explain me how this works?

01-22-2018, 03:35 PM	#4
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	team settings - look for misc player expenses (retired contracts, released players show up here) front office -> Salaries tab... can see it add up... the salaries tab info and payroll figure on front office can be off a bit before season starts... newly promoted MLB'ers don't officially have a contract, yet. maybe if you promote them before new year they do? anyway, it happens some projected values are based on next years payroll.. depends on what you are looking at.. e.g. extensions look at "next" year. extensions can use "Cash on Hand" before it is lost to and cap placed on it.. this would augment what's available and highlights why there should be a cap on it in 99.9% of all situations. it all adds up. it may not handle long-term stuff the best, but at least current and next year budgets have to balance for various payroll decisions. maybe there's somethign odd with smaller values? i can't say i've played with 75k payrolls to eliminate the possibility. definitely not occuring with modern day values and more default settings (in case those are at play) Edit: Luxury tax? what you describe reminds me of a non-cap int'l ama FA setting... every dollar spent doubles over cap. similar stuff happens with luxury cap... double check all 3 of the settings related. make sure it's soft/hard as you inteneded with correct digits/scale. Last edited by NoOne; 01-22-2018 at 03:41 PM.

01-21-2018, 05:14 PM	#2
non1987 Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2	I think I figured this out and I believe the game has some error in the way it calculates the payroll... What happens is that the payroll gets automatically filled with players at a minimum contract. So, I have 38k of contracts for 9 players. This means I need other 24-9 = 15 players to fill the roster. At minimum, I am going to pay those player 2.4k. So my minimum projected payroll is 38k + 2.4k*15 = 72k. But this means that we are double counting those players I will sign at the minimum!!! When I negotiate with free agents, my remaining salary space is calculated as if I actually have 14 players signed at the minimum. This can actually prevent me from signing players -- even at the minimum. I believe the game here should be fixed!

01-21-2018, 07:48 PM	#3
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	I've noticed stuff doesn't add up but I'm playing an old version.